I'm Voting Clinton And This Is Why

Yeah I thought that might get your attention. I am actually not voting for Clinton. However the title is valid as I am looking for a Clinton supporter. I am genuinely curious as to what your long list of reasons for you supporting her is.

Okay the two main subjects I would like to discuss, debate, argue and fight about in this thread is

1.Trump vs Hillary. Why you like Hillary (do you exist?) or why you like trump.

2. ILLEGAL immigration/immigrants and what to do about it or not do, and what to do with them or not do.

Ill start this show with my awesome opinion that is so logically sound, so simple and pure in its genius, so honest and spirited I am sure to not find one person that will disagree.....(yes that was sarcasim)


Let me give you a perspective from someone that actually lives in this country, is poor, is well informed and understands united states and world politics and how it relates to and affects our population. A perspective of a person that likes to think their self is at least a little above average intelligence and experiences what I am about to discuss on a first hand bases.

There are roughly 30 MILLION ILLEGAL immigrants in this country(if this number is off feel free to correct with citation). I have met thousands and thousands. Guess what? I can count on one hand how many of those that DIDNT have a job.

Now with that being said. If we fired all those assholes and sent them packing back where they belong as we should...you know what will happen?

1. There will be millions upon millions of job openings.
2. Those jobs and the sectors that they belong will now pay more now that the demand for workers is back.

3. Working Americans will now no longer have to compete in the job market with an illegal that is willing to work for half or in most cases even less than half of what the job should pay....which by its very nature bring up the pay scale.

4. Those job will also now offer benefits because the illegals didnt care about stupid benefits so why offer them?

5. Now looky there now there are lots of jobs available to the working people that actually pay a fair wage.

6. The money generated and made by those jobs? Oh guess what it stays in our country boosting our economy.

How we accomplish this.....

First of all make it super hard to get in the country illegally(a big ass wall would help tremendously) I can tell you without a doubt no one crosses that southern border that the intelligence agencies dont know about which means they could stop it if they wanted to.

You know how I know? Its very simple. No one cant get one dirty bomb or suitcase bomb or something of that nature accross that border....but they can get TONS of cocain across the border? And yet millions of illegals can cross? Cmon people wake up.

1. Inforce existing immigration law. If someone is here illegally and they encounter the police they should be detained and sent back to their country after serving some jail time or perhaps it could be arranged that they serve their jail time in their home country.

2. Make it a million times harder for the illegals to obtain and assume fake identities.(a million ways to do this)

3. Implement steep fines and severe punishments for company's that hire illegals knowing or unknowingly. If it is found that it was done unknowingly the fines and such will be small but still enough to incentivize the company to impliment its own procedure for screening applicants adequately.


I eagerly await your thoughts. I'm going to go have a bowl of ramen noodles while I wait for replies.

Oh and im on my mobile for all you grammer natzis (i know even that probably isn't an excuse but it's all I got)

a reply to: Alien Abduct

The entire 2016 election cycle is beyond absurd. I can't make a logical case to vote for any of these fools. None of them are qualified and frankly few arguments are actually FOR a candidate. It is much easier to point out why any of them are unqualified because that is the one common thing all these candidates share.

You forgot-

7. I'm going to cut off my nose to spite my face.

If you like the way things are going in your life right now, vote for Hillary and keep the good times rolling! She's just a female version of President Obama, when it comes to policies.

originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: Alien Abduct

The entire 2016 election cycle is beyond absurd. I can't make a logical case to vote for any of these fools. None of them are qualified and frankly few arguments are actually FOR a candidate. It is much easier to point out why any of them are unqualified because that is the one common thing all these candidates share.

From here it looks Like choosing between beint shot in face or stabbed to death.

I guess with clinton you know what your going to get.
Trump sort of like a really #ed up mystery box, you dont know what your going to get but any one with working brain cells knows its going to be bad.

If you had only asked why I will be voting for Bernie...sigh! no love..

a reply to: crazyewok

I guess with clinton you know what your going to get.

This is true its a little like going to macdonalds, you know its rubbish and you also know exactly what you are going to get....can i opt out i do not want to be stabbed to death or shot in the face

a reply to: crazyewok

The Trump chocolate box hmm gouda cheese kit kat,green tea chocolate,wasabi chocolate,chilli chocolate

a reply to: Metallicus

For reasons in the OP im voting trump. Its one of the few good things i can find that any of these candidates offer.

I think he will do very well with our foreign trade deals. His healthcare policy looks good but, im for the single payer system.

All in all honestly I doubt he will turn this country around but if he atleast gets that illegal immigrant problem solved then I'll be making a lot more money.

ETA: Atleast untill it crashes and burns that is

originally posted by: abe froman
You forgot-

7. I'm going to cut off my nose to spite my face.

are we just going to throw insults around or are we going to have an actual adult-like actual debate?

a reply to: Alien Abduct

I hate these stupid bait threads.

Hillary is the most qualified of those who are running.

Happy?

I voted for Trump.

The running meme for this election seems to be.

"Vote for A$$hole, 'cause eff you."

None of it seems to matter in the long run. I would like to say I voted for whoever can make a difference, but I've voted in the last 4 elections and no differences have been made. I've voted dem, pub, indie, and libertarian. Nothing has improved, and it seems nothing will.

If history shows anything, we know that when ballots stop working, bullets follow.

originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: Alien Abduct

I hate these stupid bait threads.

Hillary is the most qualified of those who are running.

Happy?

Stupid bait thtead? I haven't met too many people that plan to vote Hillary and I want to know the reasons why someone would vote for her, whats wrong with that?

originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: Alien Abduct


Hillary is the most qualified of those who are running.

In a nutshell Annee, why is Hillary the most qualified to be President and CEO of the world's 2nd largest economy and the world's largest military power?

a reply to: Alien Abduct

Posts openly supporting HRC are a rarity these days 'round here, but a thread started earlier today featured just that:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Personally, I'm not a fan of either Trump or Hillary, both due to things that have been talked about to death. I was a Sanders supporter early on, then Kasich, but now I'm just plain stumped. For the first time since I've been voting, I truly don't know whom to vote for. It's a bag of d#%*ks for sure.

a reply to: Boscowashisnamo

I hear ya. The only thing that swings me to Trump is his illegal immigrant stance i went into debth with in the OP.

originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: Alien Abduct

I hate these stupid bait threads.

Hillary is the most qualified of those who are running.

Happy?

Hahaha! Yea, she handled the ME regime change just fine there. Her paitients running the insane asylum of the ship of state while using it as a cruise ship casino to get donations to her foundation for weapons deals.

Now that's experience you shouldn't get behind!

It's concerning that Hillary's past vascular-cerebral medical issues are now causing her to lose memories. Tonight, she proclaimed that no Americans died in Libya.

Story: www.foxnews.com...

Oh my....

Ah, figured it was a serious thread about voting for her. Sadly, we might support happen more so for Hillary due to the # storm going on between two of the candidates that are supposed to be anti establishment yet are playing by the divisional rules that the mainstream candidates use against one another.

There's a couple threads asking about Hillary support but fell silent on it. There may be a couple as well with supporters of Hillary explaining to why they like her.

I've observed what you stated about him but there are parts of his immigration plans that are concerning. I find it alarming while Trump claims to not support the TPP he supports NSA spying. Can you be against the establishment authoritarianism if you don't support the whole cause? I believe that part of the reason he supports spying is due to do illegal immigration. He wants not just illegal immigrants on a categorized list, but all citizens of the US. The whole of his idea about it as well as "building a wall" seems like it will imprison everyone in the end.

Noticed your join date, pretty to to mine.

originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: Alien Abduct

I hate these stupid bait threads.

Hillary is the most qualified of those who are running.

Happy?

Or you could discuss the illegal immigrant issue brought up in the OP