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Scientists claim New York police forced them to fake DNA

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posted on Mar, 13 2016 @ 09:21 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Enterprising attorneys don't work for free. Who's going to pay them for using the claims of an unsettled lawsuit (which does not seem to claim any "fake" evidence was ever used) in a retroactive trial?




posted on Mar, 14 2016 @ 03:35 AM
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originally posted by: Spider879

Scientists claim New York police forced them to fake DNA
tests to convict more suspects




entists Shannon Morris, Melissa Lee and Kevin Rafferty are suing the crime lab that they were fired from at New York State police department. When the two tried to correct errors they saw in the lab, they say they were silenced and others retaliated against them because the errors were working out in their favor to garner more prosecutions.

The department was working to implement a computerized DNA analysis system called TrueAllele which would guarantee results of the tests are correct. But because of pressure from the police to get more convictions, the use of the system was scrapped.

Their attorney John Bailey explained, “there are people that are very pro-prosecution. They were putting pressure on scientists to reach conclusions that were not scientifically valid. That’s what my clients were objecting to.”

The three scientists have worked for the department for over 20 years with otherwise unblemished records. Of the 37 total staffers that were trained using the TrueAllele system, Morris, Lee and Rafferty were the most vocal in their criticisms of the department’s old analysis method. They explained that it wasn’t long before they were singled out in an “internal investigation” and accused of ethical violations. It served as a pretense to silencing them and blocking the program’s full implementation.
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Just when you think hard science should be the final say along came grey men to cloud it all, science should not be art, open to interpretation something is either is or is not, it's about letting the chips fall where they may, if prosecutors cannot prove their case without cheating then they didn't have a case to begin with.


Given this claim is true, its simply more evidence of a crumbling society siliding into tyranny.



posted on Mar, 14 2016 @ 06:32 AM
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originally posted by: Phage
Enterprising attorneys don't work for free.


Really? My good friend is a well respected attorney in Manhattan and does frequent pro bono criminal defense.


Who's going to pay them for using the claims of an unsettled lawsuit (which does not seem to claim any "fake" evidence was ever used) in a retroactive trial?


Even in the situation where pro bono is not feasible the family of the incarcerated person may be able to pay the legal fees. Worst case scenario they go with a public defender.



posted on Mar, 16 2016 @ 11:29 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: wisvol

Once again, I have no idea what thought you intend to convey.



Maybe it needs to be put in a succinct quote.

"SCIENCE" is not in control of what it reports.......



posted on Mar, 18 2016 @ 01:20 PM
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a reply to: StoutBroux

You couldn't EVER, that's the nature of paradigms...At one time science was encumbered by religious paradigms, now it is the scientific paradigms, which pretty much amount to the same thing as religion...

Jaden




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