Scientists claim New York police forced them to fake DNA

a reply to: Spider879

That's the basis of their law suit , being pressured to force a conclusion ,

No. The basis of their law suit is that they were fired, not because they cheated on the exam, but because they were "whistleblowers".

because overzealous police and prosecutors have a history of withholding evidence, that's how reps are built.

There is no claim that evidence was withheld.

If this keeps happening then some will take issue with the above.

It's been happening for quite a while now.

a reply to: Phage

There is no claim that evidence was withheld.

From the article maybe

From the discussion you're participating in, this claim has been made as per the title because presenting false data includes withholding actual data which you call evidence.

a reply to: wisvol

From the discussion you're participating in, this claim has been made as per the title because presenting false data includes withholding actual data which you call evidence.

No. Presenting false evidence is quite different from withholding evidence.

The OP has provided an article, with the same title as the thread. There is nothing in the article which makes the claims of the title.

a reply to: Phage

No doesn't apply

presenting faked data when in possession of non fake data requires withholding evidence

nice strawman

a reply to: wisvol

presenting faked data when in possession of non fake data requires withholding evidence

What data was faked?

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I would be surprised if they opened that can of worms, not willingly they wont. If the falsely convicted have enough $$ for good lawyers perhaps.

a reply to: Phage

There is nothing in the article which makes the claims of the title.

In the version we are permitted to read, probably.

What data was faked?

In this here case, I'd say we wait for the public service to determine this, right?

your sense of humour is delightful

a reply to: wisvol

In this here case, I'd say we wait for the public service to determine this, right?

I guess. Even though it has nothing to do with the lawsuit.

a reply to: Phage

The conclusions of lawsuits are made by public service

you know this, and say

a reply to: wisvol
" In this here case, I'd say we wait for the public service to determine this, right? "

I guess. Even though it has nothing to do with the lawsuit.

why?

a reply to: wisvol

Once again, I have no idea what thought you intend to convey.

a reply to: Phage

Would either example be an obstruction charge?

a reply to: vonclod

I don't know.
But since this is a civil suit about unlawful termination, I don't think it's relevant. Nor does such a claim actually seem to have been made.

a reply to: Phage

Once again, I have no idea what thought you intend to convey.

I'll reword it again using this:

Why do you claim the lawsuit has nothing to do with public service settling the question you asked, which was

What data was faked?

?

a reply to: wisvol

Why do you claim the lawsuit has nothing to do with public service settling the question you asked, which was

I didn't claim that.

I said the lawsuit was over unlawful termination, not faked evidence.

a reply to: Phage

I didn't claim that.

Since you wrote this, I have on record the reason why your contributions should not be considered, and I wondered about this earlier, thanks.

Good luck

a reply to: wisvol

And again, no idea what you intend to say.
But thanks, I guess.

originally posted by: vonclod
I would be surprised if they opened that can of worms, not willingly they wont. If the falsely convicted have enough $$ for good lawyers perhaps.

I am sure there are plenty of defense attorneys salivating at the prospects of trying to exonerate their clients based on this report.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

What report?

These are claims made the plaintiffs in an unlawful termination suit. As far as I can tell, none of them actually involve faking DNA results.

a reply to: Phage

And as I said, I do not think it will stop some enterprising defense attorneys from trying to cite what was linked in the Original Post.

Well, it is New York, and it is the criminal justice system, so sadly, it's very probably that corruption like this is factual.