Sortry, Franklin who? I'm guessing of Roosevelt...

maybe the secret society was the masons ? what makes a cable tv show any kind of authority anyway? even the new york times makes up stories

Oh look, I admit to be running the NWO. Does anyone actually take me seriously?

Originally posted by Nexus
Oh look, I admit to be running the NWO. Does anyone actually take me seriously?

Yes.

Originally posted by Nexus
Sortry, Franklin who? I'm guessing of Roosevelt...

I think he means Benjamin Franklin...

Originally posted by Illuminous
Now there is no "direct" association with The Illuminati in the clip, but it mentions secret society, and we know Franklin was a Mason, so put 2 and 2 together...

And you get the FDR was in the masons, they are probably the secret society that he belonged to.

Benjamin Franklin was a member of two so-called "secret societies": the Masons and the Sons of Liberty. When you "put 2 and 2 together" you get 4, not an extinct Bavarian fraternity.

Originally posted by Masonic Light
Benjamin Franklin was a member of two so-called "secret societies": the Masons and the Sons of Liberty. When you "put 2 and 2 together" you get 4, not an extinct Bavarian fraternity.

Ben Franklin could've been a member of the actual Bavarian Illuminati tho no? At least in so far as having co existed with them? The Illuminati seemd to think in terms similar to the Founders.

I know that none of them are supposed to have been members, but, it woud certainly have been interesting if the Sons of Liberty and Illuminati had at least made some contacts.

Originally posted by Illuminous
Now there is no "direct" association with The Illuminati in the clip, but it mentions secret society, and we know Franklin was a Mason, so put 2 and 2 together...

Have you thought it possible that the secret society being referred to in the clip is Freemasonry?!? What in the clip would lead you to think "Illuminati"~!?!? You cannot say that the History Channel admits to Franklin's association with the Illuminati, because in reality it did no such thing. Sounds like you're reaching...

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History channel exposed in ratings ploy bu fundamental inaccuracy and wild rumour-mongering. I believe anything as long as it is not confirmed by TV. Its what you SEE and HEAR. Maybe some of you know what I mean by that.

Originally posted by Nygdan
Ben Franklin could've been a member of the actual Bavarian Illuminati tho no? At least in so far as having co existed with them? The Illuminati seemd to think in terms similar to the Founders.

According to Weishaupt's autobiography, he based the Illuminati loosely on what little he knew about the Sons of Liberty, of which Franklin was a member. The major difference was that the Sons were combatting Tories, while the Illuminati were concerned with fighting against the Jesuits. After the Illuminati went defunct, Weishaupt wrote of his co-members, and most of the more prominent members also wrote about their experiences in the Illuminati. It doesn't seem that the Illuminati ever expanded outside Bavaria, or cared to, and its members were practically all German.

I know that none of them are supposed to have been members, but, it woud certainly have been interesting if the Sons of Liberty and Illuminati had at least made some contacts.

That much is possible, and perhaps even likely. Thomas Jefferson publicly defended the Illuminati, and Weishaupt in particular. It is believed that Frederick the Great helped the Illuminati out by loaning them money, and at least some of our forefathers may have done the same. They would no doubt have liked to have seen a similar revolution on the Continent as they were leading in the Colonies.