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Secular Talk: Trump Goes full Fascist

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posted on Mar, 12 2016 @ 07:05 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

Well, seeing as you're so eager to toss me aside.

Seeing as we are dealing with an expert here, care to state (for all of us) what it is about Trump that is wrong about he statements. Remember.....nothing personal about him mind. You know..."He's orange, he's a racist blah blah"

Hit me.




posted on Mar, 12 2016 @ 07:05 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Gryphon66




As usual, you only brush by anything resembling facts on the way to your hyperbole and demagoguery.


Must have mistaken me for a Trump critic.



I haven't mistaken you for anything. I know what you are.

You just reduced the Social Security program to "branding people with numbers."

You're beyond transparent.


Which it did.

A person reduced to a number to the state.

With no other reason that FORCED taxation for over 30 years.

I love how some people excuse that FASCISM, and I agree some are transparent as it gets.



posted on Mar, 12 2016 @ 07:06 PM
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a reply to: neo96

It's a national ID as far as it's tied to your name, it's missing the picture YET.

Why are you going on about guns here? But I'll bite. The checking of you papers (heavy stereotype German accent) is the to make sure you haven't been convicted of a major crime.

I support the second admendment, but I think it should be handled by a test so you get to use it like you do with a car instead of background checks. Just so it's known you know better before you commit some crime.



posted on Mar, 12 2016 @ 07:10 PM
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a reply to: misterhistory




Why are you going on about guns here? But I'll bite. The checking of you papers (heavy stereotype German accent) is the to make sure you haven't been convicted of a major crime


Which 99.9% of people haven't done.

I love the Patriot Act excuse.

'Haven't done anything nothing to worry about'.

That is FASCISM.

All Gun control is.

It is authoritarian as it gets.



posted on Mar, 12 2016 @ 07:14 PM
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originally posted by: neo96

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Gryphon66




As usual, you only brush by anything resembling facts on the way to your hyperbole and demagoguery.


Must have mistaken me for a Trump critic.



I haven't mistaken you for anything. I know what you are.

You just reduced the Social Security program to "branding people with numbers."

You're beyond transparent.


Which it did.

A person reduced to a number to the state.

With no other reason that FORCED taxation for over 30 years.

I love how some people excuse that FASCISM, and I agree some are transparent as it gets.


No one has been reduced to "a number to the state."

We all know your issues with Social Security Neo. Let's move on.



posted on Mar, 12 2016 @ 07:16 PM
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originally posted by: CaptainBeno
a reply to: Gryphon66

Well, seeing as you're so eager to toss me aside.

Seeing as we are dealing with an expert here, care to state (for all of us) what it is about Trump that is wrong about he statements. Remember.....nothing personal about him mind. You know..."He's orange, he's a racist blah blah"

Hit me.


Nah. Your quarter, your dance.

Tell us about all of these "facts" that make you such an ardent believer in Trump.



posted on Mar, 12 2016 @ 07:18 PM
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edit on 12-3-2016 by misterhistory because: Deleting for bad quoting



posted on Mar, 12 2016 @ 07:23 PM
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a reply to: MysticPearl

A lot has been done in the name of national security. Japanese/Jewish internment camps, PATRIOT Act, just to name a few.

It's a dark road to go down. What if it was people who looked like you, had similar names, believed in a sect of a religion you believed in that were causing the mess right now? Would you be so quick to have that second ID declaring you to be of those people?



posted on Mar, 12 2016 @ 07:27 PM
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a reply to: neo96

That's why I inserted the bit about heavy stereotypical German accent in that paragraph. I'm obviously trying to say its authoritarian in the worst of ways.



posted on Mar, 12 2016 @ 07:31 PM
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a reply to: misterhistory




A lot has been done in the name of national security. Japanese/Jewish internment camps, PATRIOT Act, just to name a few.


Damn glad you brought up the japanese internment.

Done by that FASCIST that created social security. FDR. Took all their possessions to boot.

That wasn't good enough confiscated Americans gold, and silver. Them damn rich people!

That wasn't enough ROBBED Fort Knox.

And This fella wrote the PA.



Biden himself draws parallels between his 1995 bill and its 2001 cousin. “I drafted a terrorism bill after the Oklahoma City bombing. And the bill John Ashcroft sent up was my bill,” he said when the Patriot Act was being debated, according to the New Republic, which described him as “the Democratic Party’s de facto spokesman on the war against terrorism.”


www.washingtonsblog.com...

And another fella named Carter wrote the FISA Act.

en.wikipedia.org...

Might as well bring up the native Americans since they are still living on 'fema' camps called reservations.

The only real question is.

Who is next.

Either gun owners, or them evil rich people. Sanders, and CLinton whine about.

But I digress.

Trumps 'fascist'!

From the crowd that has a long sorted history of it.



posted on Mar, 12 2016 @ 07:36 PM
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This reminds me more and more of that Chicago jazz great ... Muddy Waters.

Except this is "Muddied Waters filled with Red Herring."

LOL.



posted on Mar, 12 2016 @ 07:41 PM
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a reply to: neo96

Don't get me started on the Native Americans. Anything short of declaring their lands full blown states is a continuation of the travesty done unto them.

I think the Dems, especially in their current state, are the most insidious organization around.

I'm just not liking the fact that Trump went so far as to say Muslims should have a second ID declaring them as such.



posted on Mar, 12 2016 @ 07:42 PM
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On the Economy:
Keep mortgage interest deduction; knock out carried interest. (Nov 2015)
Make economy dynamic; bring back jobs from China & Mexico. (Oct 2015)
Use increasing debt ceiling as bargaining chip. (Oct 2015)
Strong on debt limit; ask for a pound of flesh. (Oct 2015)
Grow the economy at 6% annually by ending inversions. (Oct 2015)
Cut defense budget, & entire EPA & Dept. of Education. (Oct 2015)
We owe $19T and we need a businessman to bring us back. (Sep 2015)
If debt reaches $24T, that's the point of no return. (Jun 2015)
We prospered after 9/11; we'll prosper after Great Recession. (Apr 2010)
2006: Warned about impending implosion of financial sector. (Apr 2010)
Prepare for upcoming crash, bigger than 1929. (Jul 2000)
Optimistic about future of Atlantic City. (Jul 1990)
Rent control only benefits a privileged minority. (Jul 1987)
One-time 14.25% tax on wealth, to erase national debt. (Nov 1999)
Predicts 35% boost to economy from eliminating national debt. (Nov 1999)

On civil rights:
I'm "fine" with affirmative action, for now. (Oct 2015)
After Supreme Court vote, gay marriage is a reality. (Aug 2015)
I'm no misogynist; I put women in charge of construction. (Aug 2015)
Disinvited from RedState gathering for misogynistic comments. (Aug 2015)
Political correctness is country's problem, not my problem. (Aug 2015)
Obama's presidency has done nothing for African Americans. (Aug 2015)
Same-sex marriage is a state issue. (Jun 2015)
No gay marriage; no same-sex partner benefits. (Mar 2011)
Tolerate diversity; prosecute hate crimes against gays. (Jul 2000)

On Corporations:
Get U.S. money back into U.S.: address corporate inversion. (Nov 2015)
I've used bankruptcy laws to do a great job for my companies. (Aug 2015)
2002: Participated in development boom of Jersey City. (Apr 2012)
0% corporate tax would create millions of jobs. (Dec 2011)
Fight crony capitalism with a level playing field. (Dec 2011)
Wealthy move assets around globally based on tax incentives. (Apr 2011)
Business is an acquired skill based on discipline & focus. (Apr 2010)
Pragmatic positive: be positive, but be realistic. (Apr 2010)
Being a know-it-all shuts the door on new ideas. (Apr 2010)

Energy and Oil
Maybe some climate change is manmade, but not all. (Jun 2015)
Climate change is a hoax. (Jun 2015)
No Cap-and-Tax: oil is this country's lifeblood. (Dec 2011)
Jobs will slump until our lifeblood--oil--is cheap again. (Dec 2011)
Enough natural gas in Marcellus Shale for 110 year supply. (Dec 2011)
Libya: No oil, no support; no exceptions. (Dec 2011)
It's incredible how slowly we're drilling for oil. (Mar 2011)
Oil is the lifeblood of all economies. (Apr 2010)

Foreign Policy inc Middle East
Diplomacy & respect crucial to our relationship with Russia. (Sep 2015)
Putin has no respect for America; I will get along with him. (Sep 2015)
We must deal with the maniac in North Korea with nukes. (Sep 2015)
China is our enemy; they're bilking us for billions. (Dec 2011)
When you love America, you protect it with no apologies. (Dec 2011)
By 2027, tsunami as China overtakes US as largest economy. (Dec 2011)
Things change; empires come and go. (Apr 2010)
Criticized Buchanan’s view on Hitler as appeasement. (Jul 2000)
Post-Cold War: switch from chess player to dealmaker. (Jul 2000)
Support Russia, but with strings attached. (Jul 2000)
China: lack of human rights prevents consumer development. (Jul 2000)
Be tougher on China-we’re too eager to please. (Jul 2000)
Mideast

Too risky to take in Syrian refugees. (Nov 2015)
Let Russia bash ISIS; let Germany defend Ukraine. (Nov 2015)
Provide economic assistance to create a safe zone in Syria. (Oct 2015)
US should not train rebels it does not know or control. (Oct 2015)
Better to have Mideast strongmen than Mideast chaos. (Oct 2015)
Good that Russia is involved in Syria. (Oct 2015)
More sanctions on Iran; more support of Israel. (Jun 2015)


WOULD YOU LIKE SOME MORE?



posted on Mar, 12 2016 @ 07:50 PM
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I think the Dems, especially in their current state, are the most insidious organization around.


Now that I have no problems agreeing with.



posted on Mar, 12 2016 @ 07:56 PM
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a reply to: CaptainBeno

Nope. (Good job though, did you have those on your desktop? You may want to cite them if not, plagiarism you know.)

Now ... demonstrate how these snippets rise to the level of facts.

We'll wait.

PS: I told you an hour ago that I can believe you trust everything that comes out of the Donald's mouth ... but, to reiterate THOSE ARE NOT FACTS.



posted on Mar, 12 2016 @ 07:58 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
There was a point when I couldn't comprehend how true dictators rose to power ... and now, we're seeing it in front of our eyes.


The only silver lining to Trump is that even if he were to get elected, and then suspend future elections he's too old to govern for much longer than 2 terms anyways.



posted on Mar, 12 2016 @ 08:10 PM
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originally posted by: Aazadan

originally posted by: Gryphon66
There was a point when I couldn't comprehend how true dictators rose to power ... and now, we're seeing it in front of our eyes.


The only silver lining to Trump is that even if he were to get elected, and then suspend future elections he's too old to govern for much longer than 2 terms anyways.


Trump is not going to get elected, but he may do a lot of damage to America on the way to failure.



posted on Mar, 12 2016 @ 08:15 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

But the quotes are? From his mouth? Can't say fairer than that? Look em up



posted on Mar, 12 2016 @ 08:18 PM
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I highly doubt he'll get elected, I'm just saying if he does.

I'm rather convinced that faithless electors exist for just this very reason. The RNC looks like they're even willing to implode (possibly permanently) for the sake of the country. If they can't stop him, the general election will.

The democrat primary is going to determine our next president.



posted on Mar, 12 2016 @ 08:18 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

And Bush and Obama didn't already do loads of incomprehensible of damage already?



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