MoveOn Takes Partial Credit for Trump Rally Cancelation

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
*yawn*

And the Koch Brothers are what? Nothing?

Yep.

Nadda.

Zilch.

100% combat ineffective.

The Kochs freeze out Trump

a reply to: smitastrophe

All good points !!!



Interesting to see what rebuttals show up.

a reply to: smitastrophe

What's really ironic?

With a few grammatical tweaks, that reads just like a hardcore conservative action plan...Here, I went a head and did that for ya:

1) Healthcare – Control healthcare and you control the people. Limit people’s ability to gain access to healthcare by encouraging corrupt crony capitalism.

2) Poverty – Increase the Poverty level as high as possible. Poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you demonize the opposition and scare them enough.

3) Debt – Increase the debt to an unsustainable level through defense spending. That way you are able to justify taxes to people who don’t like taxes, and this will produce more poverty.

4) Mass surveillance – Remove the ability for people to have private lives from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.

5) Welfare – Take away all social safety nets in order to have the poor come begging to you for solutions.

6) Education – Take control of what people read and listen to – take control of what children learn in school by under the guise of Christian morals and ethics.

7) Religion – Inject the belief in the God into the Government and schools.

8) Racial Warfare – Divide the people racially. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier profile minorities with the support of the racial majority.

Wow, that's not different -- is it?

a reply to: MystikMushroom

The irony is the left has created a slave state.

1. Healthcare. The STATE is already the largest provider between medicare,and medicaid with over 120 million people.
There is no single private insurer out there that rakes in over 1 trillion per year. The Ironic part is the state outsources to private companies, and other countries for processing, and billing.

2. Poverty. The last 50 years over 22 trillion has spent with nothing to show for it.

3 Debt. The first two has created the majority of that 18 trillion dollar deficit.

4. Mass surveillance is a fact of life,and it has only gotten bigger during the last eight years see that guy named Snowden.

5 Welfare. Never before in this entire nations history are there now more broke people dependent upon government than ever in it's history. The longest war in Ameircan history was been a raging success.

The war on the rich since only one percent remains.

6 Education. That is gone down hill since the creation of the Department of Education, and Left wingers thinking that intelligence is determined by how much of someone else's money is thrown at youth to make them 'smarter'.

7. Religion. Where the church has been replaced with the STATE. Legislating it's 'morality' left, and right.

More LEFT though since benevolence, and money should only come from the state.

8. Racial Warfare. Right along with the rest of identity politics.

Black,white,rich,poor all designed to keep the people fighting between themselves. With no other goal that keep LEFTISTS in power.

It's quite a bit different.

a reply to: neo96

You realize the wealthiest people in this country don't care about you at all, in fact, they more than likely despise you. To them, you are just a part of a cancerous population. The same people you support, glorify and defend.

These elites also use social programming techniques to make people feel as if they are in a higher tax bracket, and that it's THOSE OTHER people who are the loosers, the takers, the undesirables. It's THEIR fault.

All to keep people supporting those at the top.

Our social structure is a scam like the lottery. Those in power push the "if you don't buy a ticket you can't win...!" mantra. The whole "American Dream" thing being tossed around is no different than buying a ticket to win the lotto. It's a tax on stupidity if you buy it.

a reply to: MystikMushroom

You realize the wealthiest people in this country don't care about you at all,

And you think the LEFT 'cares' about people ?

Only so far as a vote, and tax money goes.

Beyond that ?

They don't give a ratts snips behind.

Withhold either see how much they 'care'.

originally posted by: smitastrophe
a reply to: MystikMushroom

Two sides of the same coin, (that some toddler swallowed and then crapped out)

What's your point? It's ok because of the Koch Brothers?

I agree. The Koch brothers and others could have very well been involved as well. I don't believe anyone is saying otherwise considering it's known they don't support Trump either.

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
a reply to: neo96

You realize the wealthiest people in this country don't care about you at all, in fact, they more than likely despise you. To them, you are just a part of a cancerous population. The same people you support, glorify and defend.

You got it wrong, the wealthiest have a dependency on the working class and the poor, because without them their wealth will not be possible.

They need those working class and poor people in order to exploit them.

They don't hate as the relation between classes is symbiotic.

So, back on topic..... Well, hold on. Before I do, I just want to say that when I first found this site under a year ago I had high hopes. But threads like these just prove even "informed" individuals partake in the left vs. Right scam. It's very saddening. I expect more from this crowd.

Now, back on topic. Alex Jones is now reporting Hillary had a hand in this, too. Check his site.

originally posted by: Tempter
So, back on topic..... Well, hold on. Before I do, I just want to say that when I first found this site under a year ago I had high hopes. But threads like these just prove even "informed" individuals partake in the left vs. Right scam. It's very saddening. I expect more from this crowd.

Now, back on topic. Alex Jones is now reporting Hillary had a hand in this, too. Check his site.

So ... the level of our ATS discourse has disappointed you ... but meanwhile, you think it's important to pass along that Alex Jones is throwing shade at Hillary Clinton?

The level of irrelevant paradox has rendered me speechless.

a reply to: xuenchen

Nevermind....a useless OP as always...you're awful. Trust me...leave it at that and go away!

Ugghhh

a reply to: neo96

Whats new about that - have you yanks been living under a rock these last 200 years?
In Congress the fasces flank the US flag. What's it doing in a so called republic?
Fascism alive and well in the land of the "free"


"What's under Georges (Washingtons) Trench Coat"
www.abovetopsecret.com...

"What is this doing in the Halls of Congress"
www.abovetopsecret.com...

"Every Time Someone Called You A Fascist, They Might Have Been Right, Is Your Ideology Fascist?"
www.abovetopsecret.com...

en.wikipedia.org...

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

You are taking ancient historical views and trying to compare them to modern times way of life, governments evolve, people evolve, history change, is a reason why we should always respect those that came before us so we can take from the good and never repeat their mistakes.

It seems to me that is now a new trend with a purpose to find an excuse to destroy America this days.

People today are too dumb out to see the warnings, specially when is calls for defacing history to accommodate opinions.

The Roman Fasces is a an ancient symbol that a people is stronger when they come together as one.

That's what the "sheaf of bound sticks" has signified since Classical times.

originally posted by: Kali74
And?

Summary: Progressives are fascists.

originally posted by: Teikiatsu

originally posted by: Kali74
And?

Summary: Progressives are fascists.

Progressives are "an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization"?

a reply to: Gryphon66

No one has said that.

People can absolutely protest, but what happened was not a protest. It was a mob seeking to shut down the free speech of another with whom they disagree.

Can you at least agree that the 1st Amendment exists the protest speech, on both sides?

When someone hosts an event, they are partially responsible for the security of the people who will attend. At the point when that security for event attendees cannot be reasonably assured, it is advisable for a host of reasons to not have the event. I understand you would prefer to think of Trump a coward, but at the same time, had he had the event and a mass brawl broken out with shots fired or something else ... then who would you be blaming today? Likely also Trump.

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Teikiatsu

originally posted by: Kali74
And?

Summary: Progressives are fascists.

Progressives are "an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization"?

I know that sometimes truth is hard to take.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
The Roman Fasces is a an ancient symbol that a people is stronger when they come together as one.

That's what the "sheaf of bound sticks" has signified since Classical times.

Yep, mob rule.

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Teikiatsu

originally posted by: Kali74
And?

Summary: Progressives are fascists.

Progressives are "an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization"?

I know that sometimes truth is hard to take.

What truth is that? I know that there has been a trend lately in the Right Wing echo chamber trying to equate the Left with socialism, which equals fascism, which means the Left are Nazis, but that trend is not rooted in any factual reality.

I do not hear yells of "USA, USA" coming from ultra-nationalist Leftists. "Super-patriotism" is an integral part of fascism and I don't see that coming from the Left.

The problem is that many people are trying to project the fascist label on to those they disagree with politically, but are doing do without a basic understanding of what fascism is.