originally posted by: Mryhh
a reply to: Mryhh
Magi is 100 percent Zoroastrian and Babylon is a country, not a religion. Persia was the land of Zoroastrianism and the Magi were Zoroastrian priests
SPECIFICALLY and not Babylonian, You can read the Greeks history of Persia or anyone on the internet. Google Magi and every site from Wikipedia to
page 67 will say they were specific to Zoroastrianism.
I m gonna ride you on this because I hate people who tell lies about religion and saying that Magi are Babylonian is both ignorant and deceptive and I
will not allow that on a thread dedicated to the truth.
Yes, you are correct about Magi being Zoroastrian. Your assumption that Zoroaster was the source of the term is incorrect.
The Magi were actually a sacred Median caste existing prior to Zoroaster. The Avestas only refer to Magi by word 'magâunô, referring to the
existing Median caste (Yasna 33.7:' ýâ sruyê parê magâunô ' = "so I can be heard beyond Magi"). This clearly shows that when this Avesta was
written, the Magi already existed.
Biblically, the mention of the Magi is associated with Babylon (Jeremiah 39:3 and 39:13 describes Nergal Sharezar, one of Nebuchadrezars chiefs, as
"rab-mag" or 'chief Magus').
Here's a little history for you:
Nebuchadrezar (the name Nebuchadnezzar is a mistranslation) was a Babylonian king whose wife was Median. Under him, the Babylonian Empire reached its
Babylon was then invaded and overrun by Cyrus, a Persian King. After the downfall of Assyrian and Babylonian power, the religion of the Magi held sway
in Persia. Cyrus completely conquered the sacred caste; his son Cambyses severely repressed it. The Magians revolted and set up Gaumata, their chief,
as King of Persia under the name of Smerdis. He was, however, murdered (521 B.C.), and Darius became king.
This downfall of the Magi was celebrated by a national Persian holiday called magophonia (Her., III, lxiii, lxxiii, lxxix).
Still the religious influence of this priestly caste continued throughout the rule of the Achaemenian dynasty in Persia (Ctesias, "Persica", X-XV);
and is not unlikely that at the time of the birth of Christ it was still flourishing under the Parthian dominion.
Strabo (XI, ix, 3) says that the Magian priests formed one of the two councils of the Parthian Empire.
Ancient Media, Persia, Assyria, and Babylonia all had a Magian priesthood at various times.
The oldest description of the Magi is from the 6th century BCE Greek Heraclitus (apud Clemens Protrepticus 12), who curses the magi for their
"impious" rites and rituals.
The next oldest reference we have is from the Behistun inscription of Darius the Great, and which can be dated to about 520 BCE. Darius was the king
of the Persian Empire and ruled from Babylon for the greater part of his reign.
I was not wrong about the Magi being from Babylon. Nor was I lying. You seem to resort to calling people liars every time someone develops a strong
argument against you. Cut it out gnosisfaith.
edit on 12/3/2016 by chr0naut because: (no reason given)