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Galatians; Christians falling from grace?

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posted on Mar, 17 2016 @ 11:03 AM
a reply to: Maigret
We are still in the church age until the body of Christ is gathered into the clouds ever more to be with Jesus.

When that event takes place that wicked one will reveal himself and the Tribulation will begin.

we may be on the cusp, but as through all dispensations that have ended one exists today as it did thousands of years ago. The Noahdic Covenant in which those laws apply to the gentile populations of the world are still in effect

Genesis 9:1 ¶ And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.
2 And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered.
3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.
4 But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.
5 And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man.
6 Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.
7 And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.
8 ¶ And God spake unto Noah, and to his sons with him, saying,
9 And I, behold, I establish my covenant with you, and with your seed after you;
10 And with every living creature that is with you, of the fowl, of the cattle, and of every beast of the earth with you; from all that go out of the ark, to every beast of the earth.
11 And I will establish my covenant with you; neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth.
12 ¶ And God said, This is the token of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations:
13 I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth.
14 And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud:
15 And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh.
16 And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth.
17 And God said unto Noah, This is the token of the covenant, which I have established between me and all flesh that is upon the earth.

posted on Mar, 17 2016 @ 04:45 PM
a reply to: ChesterJohn

That Covenant was a promise never again to destroy mankind with a flood of water; next time He will use volcanic fire, which is appropriate for the final destruction of evil and false gods. Isaiah 24:6, Revelation 8:5 [7th Seal - 3rd Woe]; 11:19 [7th Trumpet] and 16:18 [7th Bowl].

Volcanic action causes lightning, thunder, hail of hot ash and pumice, earthquake/s and the shifting of the Teutonic plates will forever change the geography of the earth; making islands and mountains disappear. Isaiah 24:19 - 21; Revelation 16:20.

Christians do expect to be raptured before the Tribulation, but the Bible makes it clear that it is Israel who will be raised up one by one at the last [7th] trumpet. Isaiah 27:12

Also, Christians will be active in the Tribulation - killing God's people for not bending knee or worshiping their deity, Jesus Christ, who will be alive and present. Matthew 24:9 & 14. They will do so, believing they offer God a service, but they do so because they know neither the Father nor the Son. John 15:21 and 16:2.

It is the Apostasy (Thessalonians 2:3) that reveals the 'wicked one' - the Antichrist /man of sin / son of perdition/ etc., and it is the Israelites who will not marvel when they see him (Revelation 17:8), because they will know of him in advance of his appearing! Revelation 17:8 & 13:8.

posted on Mar, 17 2016 @ 05:26 PM
a reply to: Maigret

Though I disagree that real Chrsitians will be active in the tribulation.

the covenant with Noah also included the life of a man requires the killers life in return and that o man eat blood, and we are to be fruitful and multiply.

No LGBT couple can keep the be fruitful and multiply.

I should have said the dispensation in stead of Covenant. the dispensation that Noah as under that also included the covenant of the rainbow and the rules concerning murder of men. But those things are still empowered today.

edit on 17-3-2016 by ChesterJohn because: (no reason given)

posted on Mar, 18 2016 @ 03:03 PM
a reply to: ChesterJohn

With the Tribulation being so close, ChesterJohn, you'll see for yourself the activities of Christians and their non-rapture...

The Covenant of the Ten Commandments covers 'thou shalt not kill', but God Himself has on occasion ordered killing - presumably of those who have become worthless to Him for their purpose in being created.

I don't judge LGBT's - you cannot help what you were born to be, and some are really good people. And they can be 'fruitful and multiply' these days via sperm donations and surrogate motherhood. Sometimes it is even more blessed to be barren, as would be the case of those who have borne really evil people.

As to the dispensation of the Rainbow covenant and the murder of men - they may still be empowered today, but much more has come since then too and it is these things we should also be looking at.

The very real danger to our souls and to our eternal lives, is that we do not worship the Antichrist who will be here in person, nor to received his mark.

There is a verse in the Bible that says not to be scared of him [Satan and his minions] who can kill the body, but to be very scared of Him [the Creator God] who can kill both the body and the soul. Maybe this is the stark warning to Christians in the days of the Tribulation, 'not to kill' [the Elect / Saints] or they will lose their lives - in this life AND in the one to come?

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