Shocker: The Real Gordon Gekko Just Endorsed Bernie Sanders

originally posted by: neo96
Yes people Europeans sure do have it awesome don't they ?

Most Europeans pay a much higher price for gasoline than Americans do, anywhere between $6 and $10 more per gallon

www.ibtimes.com...

That means it would cost 50 bucks to fill up a five gallon can.

$200 to fill of a 20 gallon tank.

That would be over $800 bucks a month in fuel expenses alone with 1 fill up per week.

That sure is some 'high' standard of living.

Wait...Don't all Europeans get free cars and free gas yet?

a reply to: neo96

Dude I don't know how to explain this to you without flash cards but the amount of debt they have doesn't mean they don't have a higher standard of living than we do.

a reply to: IAMTAT

That's where the VAT comes in to play.

Wait...Don't all Europeans get free cars and free gas yet?

That drives costs of goods even higher.

Satanists endorsed Sanders...Maybe this guy just follows Satan too.
www.progressivestoday.com...

a reply to: Malynn

I can, and without the condescension.

Read it or don't.

Western Europe is the most expensive place in the world to live, according to the Economist Intelligence Unit's latest annual Worldwide Cost of Living survey. Europe is home to eight of the 10 most expensive cities in the world, and 14 of the top 20

www.economist.com...

a reply to: vjr1113

Lmbo

Im sorry, but talking down on to a person while trying to tell them that questioning someone's motives is irrational is very unbecoming.

You're the one that used a terrible analogy that only paints the situation in some shady light to those with logic and reasoning.

a reply to: neo96

Yes it is more expensive to live in Europe. But THEIR poor get health care and education. And that is standard of living. When all of the people have a more even playing field.

originally posted by: deadlyhope
a reply to: neo96

Tell me why European and Scandinavian countries have the highest quality of life?

Do you not care if others are happy? Healthy? Is the only way "freedom should reign" be based on you're definition of freedom, rather than based on a much wider opinion of the people?

They have high poverty and high unemployment and ultra high debt just like here.

But many people believe the slanted and biased surveys and reports.

And I think they do have lower corporate taxes so that makes them all dependent on "Capitalism" too !!!!!

a reply to: xuenchen

They pay less than zero in taxes, and then are subsidized more than our own companies? Never heard those statistics anywhere...

Ooooohhh.

You're talking about what some sheet says on it for corporate tax - Yeah, those do not reflect the actual amount paid by some major corporations.

Not saying all businesses and corporations pay little taxes - But the ones who do find loop holes and subsidies hurt our system. What do you think Bernies message is all about?

Get money out of politics.
Illegalize activities which reduce tax liability ( havens and offshore accounts and such )
Charge the bankers for using OUR MONEY for their gambling.....

a reply to: Malynn

Malynn - It's really hard to get through to these type of people. They think money and debt are the two most important things in life. Not healthcare, pollution, happiness, crime rate..... Nothing else.

originally posted by: Chickensalad
a reply to: vjr1113

Lmbo

Im sorry, but talking down on to a person while trying to tell them that questioning someone's motives is irrational is very unbecoming.

You're the one that used a terrible analogy that only paints the situation in some shady light to those with logic and reasoning.

id say that assuming Asher has ulterior motives when endorsing Sanders is unbecoming. Obviously Asher isnt here right not to defend himself, but i would say he understands economics and isn't in cahoots with Sanders.

a reply to: neo96

Hey, is Greece still part of Europe?
I don't think socialism worked out so well there.

a reply to: Malynn

But THEIR poor get health care and education.

So do ours.

Between MEDICAID since it was specifically created for the poor.

Medicaid in the United States is a social health care program for families and individuals with low income and limited resources. The Health Insurance Association of America describes Medicaid as a "government insurance program for persons of all ages whose income and resources are insufficient to pay for health care".[1] Medicaid is the largest source of funding for medical and health-related services for people with low income in the United States.

en.wikipedia.org...

And just how many people are on medicaid prey tell ?

Almost 70 million people that are currently on it.

That's more people than most Europeans countries entire populations.

www.statista.com...

And we can't forget the EMTLA.

The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA)[1] is an act of the United States Congress, passed in 1986 as part of the Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act (COBRA). It requires hospital Emergency Departments that accept payments from Medicare to provide an appropriate medical screening examination (MSE) to individuals seeking treatment for a medical condition, regardless of citizenship, legal status, or ability to pay.

en.wikipedia.org...

Sanders supporters need to stop lying about healthcare in this country.

People have numerous options include the FREE option 'guaranteed' by the EMTALA.

originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: neo96

Hey, is Greece still part of Europe?
I don't think socialism worked out so well there.

Socialism isn't working out anywhere.

There is only one economic model that has propelled mankind to it's current technological progress.

Capitalism.

The only thing socialist's want to do is create the worlds larges zoo. Where the attractions are kept by their 'caretakers'.

Free homes,free food, and free 'education'.

Where 'Don't feed the animals' only applies to the wildlife.

a reply to: neo96

And most of those paying those gas prices don't have ridiculously large trucks and SUVs they don't have any use for. Also, public transportation is infinitely better in those European countries.

I've kind of spent some time in Europe, so I can speak from personal experience here.

a reply to: neo96

Expensive, sure -- but it doesn't mean they have a lower "standard of living" or quality of life.

The problem is that Americans crave piles of useless crap. We love to buy cheap, soon-to-be-obsolete items made in China.

Consumerism gone astray -- Americans brainwashed by the richest people in the nation to convince us to buy more, spend more, amass more crap we don't need to line their pockets. It's the dark side of crony capitalism.

My European fiends might not have 10 pairs of $100 shoes, but they do have 3 pairs of $200 shoes that'll last twice as long resulting in less net spending.

Being able to "amass more crap" doesn't equate to a higher standard of living.

a reply to: neo96

When America practiced real capitalism and the idea was so new and fresh that it wasn't rampant with corruption, yes, we achieved a ton

Some argue we haven't done nearly as much since. All inventions and progress here can be traced back to decades ago.

We don't have capitalism. Not one candidate is advocating capitalism.

Whoever you like? Likely taking money from a big business to represent their interests, ensuring that true capitalism can never return.

Am I wrong?

a reply to: MystikMushroom

Yeah well the Conus is a big place.

People have lots of STUFF.

And we like to go places, and do things.

It's suppose to be a FREE country, and that means if a person wants to drive a hummer around.

They can whenever they want.

Last thought here I don't care what Europe has, or what it's 'like'.

The American has a different culture, and the Automobile has been KING for over a century.

People need to ponder why that is.

Freedom to go anywhere, anytime, and not be subjugated to someone else's time table.

a reply to: MystikMushroom

Materialism is our main problem. We don't even care that the next iPhone has no innovations, we just care that it has a new number or letter attached to it, and we are told we are behind and lesser than our peers unless we have it.

a reply to: deadlyhope

I hate to break it to you, but SOCIALISM is one of those most corrupt ideologies I have ever listened to.

'The state exists to provided for the materialistic WANTS of the masses.'

Robbing from the so called rich, and given to so called needy.

All so they can go out, and buy MORE STUFF.

It is an AUTHORITARIAN ideology.