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originally posted by: luthier
originally posted by: o0oTOPCATo0o
a reply to: AnarchoCapitalist
No doubt putting on all the weight(most likely with TONS of meat protein) effected his stamina..
but the true reason he lost is the man in front of him was able to take his punches. He on the other hand, was not.
Connor landed some wicked shots. Diaz was able to roll them off a bit, but he still took a lot of damage
That was the difference though... He took them. He is used to getting hit by someone that size. Connor was not.
I understand your point and I agree that his diet effected his performance, but he did well enough in that fight to knock out most people that were put in front of him... but not Diaz.
He held strong and landed the simplest boxing combination and changed the fight.
Not sure how much weight he put on. Connor is said and has said to walk around at 170. He leans out in camp but cuts huge amounts of weight to get to 145. He is probably most used to sparring around 165 or so. I think he simply didn't cut weight or pay attention to optimizing his diet for his performance.
As much as people love their red meat it's fine as a pro athlete but high demand sports you just don't want to waste so much energy on digestion pre performance. You want your gut optimizing the nutrients you give it.
Conor and his team made a technical error in planning. He underestimated Diaz and overestimated his own ability. He should have plenty of experience sparring at the weight he fought at if he really does walk around around 170. Let's also assume he was planning on cutting down to 155 and not that his actual weight was 155. He didn't gain weight he just didn't cut it. During most of his camps in history I guarantee he was in the mid 160's most of the time and then cuts around 18 lbs (insane)
Saying his diet had something to do with his performance is not a stretch at all. It's another form of discipline and extremely important. That doesn't mean you have to be a veg but eating red meat has to be planned with accordance to have ample digestion time and shouldn't be had during weight cuts due to chemistry and it's slow travel through the intestines. Of coarse some people have different chemistry and your diet at a pro level should be monitored for results.
He was beat by his lack of preparation and ego. That led him to poor choices both in and before the fight.
Reminds of valesquez Werdum where Cain didn't bother doing altitude training before his fight and gassed badly. It wasn't the fatigue and altitude...they where a symptom of a much worse problem. Ego, and poor planning.
originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: AnarchoCapitalist
BS. On who? Show me the study. Show me the people used.
Tell me would an Inuit do better with his ancestral diet or a vegan diet?
To be honest vegans for the most part are some of the most unhealthy people I know. Not all but most obsess over food like a phobia and are skin and bones.
Nutrition for the most part changes every year. Just like how omega fatty acids are really only beneficial to Inuits. Or coconut oil is magic but it's filled with saturated fat and studies show its not all its cracked up to be.
The food and supplements industry also make half this stuff up.
People live a long time in Okinawa eating rice vegetables and fish.
My great grandfather smoked and ate crap food and drank some kind of wine out of gallon. He lived until 94.
It's genes man. It's the genes. And yeah all the research says that too. You just need to open your eyes.
The alleged absence of CAD in Greenland Eskimos is a paradoxical finding, given that this is a population mainly sustained on a diet high in animal fat, absence of fruits and vegetables and other important nutrients;36 in other words, a diet which violates all principles of balanced and heart-healthy nutrition.
The totality of reviewed evidence leads us to the conclusion that Eskimos have a similar prevalence of CAD as non-Eskimo populations, 20-23; 31-32;34-35 they have excessive mortality due to cerebrovascular strokes,37-38 their overall mortality is twice as high as that of non-Eskimo populations 38 and their life expectancy is approximately 10 years shorter than the Danish population.39-40
At a recent WHO annual meeting, it was stated that breast milk substitutes cause irreparable damage in infants. This prompted us to verify whether formula feeding and parental cigarette smoking might play a role in the pathogenesis of early atherosclerotic alterations in infancy. The major epicardial coronary arteries from 36 infants dying suddenly and unexpectedly (sudden infant death syndrome) were embedded in paraffin and serially cut for histologic examination. In 67% of the cases, multifocal coronary early atherosclerotic lesions of varying entities were detected. The alterations ranged from focal plaques with mild myointimal thickening to juvenile soft plaques reducing the arterial lumen. A significant correlation was observed between the early atherosclerotic lesions and the risk factors considered. In particular, we noted different morphologic patterns related to formula feeding and cigarette smoking. Baby formula feeding and parental cigarette smoking might have an atherogenic effect on the coronary walls as from the first months of life. The lesions appear to be larger and more diffuse when both these atherogenic factors are present.
Vegetarian diets are associated with lower all-cause mortality and with some reductions in cause-specific mortality. Results appeared to be more robust in males. These favorable associations should be considered carefully by those offering dietary guidance.
After multivariate adjustment, a high consumption of red meat was related to higher all-cause mortality, and the association was stronger for processed meat ...The results of our analysis support a moderate positive association between processed meat consumption and mortality, in particular due to cardiovascular diseases, but also to cancer.
Potential limitations of our results are due to the fact that the survey was based on cross-sectional data. Therefore, no statements can be made whether the poorer health in vegetarians in our study is caused by their dietary habit or if they consume this form of diet due to their poorer health status. We cannot state whether a causal relationship exists, but describe ascertained associations.