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War is Started in Europe

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posted on Mar, 8 2016 @ 12:36 AM
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originally posted by: nonspecific
Why would you walk in the dark in an unsafe area please?

Regardless of immigrants this would be an unsafe thing to do surely?

Sorry if this sounds harsh but why would a local man be safer in a dark secluded area than a foreign one? rapists are rapists are they not?


She walks in the dark in an unsafe place because she lives there. She's not seeking out dangerous areas. Everyone has occasion to be outside after dark sometimes. In some months it gets dark quite early, before work is even over. Are you saying females should have to have an escort, or be on a curfew?
The point she is making is that her area used to be safe. The local men aren't rapists. Just recently two of her friends were raped by migrant men. It sounds like you are excusing that.




posted on Mar, 8 2016 @ 02:46 AM
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a reply to: Nickn3 I am a born and bred southern girl and proud of it. I am so grateful for the strong men who I know would protect their women and those men would be heroes to us. Just sayin'. I feel safe and secure here-men are real men here- less talk, more doin'.



posted on Mar, 8 2016 @ 03:16 AM
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People work in unsafe areas and it is Winter so goes dark very early. Women should be allowed to walk home from work, gym etc without fear. I could understand you saying what you are saying if it was 3 in the morning.

Just for the record women can be harrassed in public places in broad day light as has been happening at train stations in Europe and public swimming baths to a poor 10 year old boy. God knows how you can excuse this behaviour!

I have two incidents in my life where I wasnt anywhere dangerous.a reply to: nonspecific


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posted on Mar, 8 2016 @ 06:02 AM
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originally posted by: residentofearth
a reply to: RosinitiateThe story was addressed to the Man with sunny day outside the window with animals.


That would be me, methinks.

Well, when I peeked out my window last night it was dark. But it's quite sunny now, so let's take a look at "the War" that you insist is ongoing here. Mm.. indeed: the deer are nowhere in sight - they mostly hide into the bushes during the day. But I hear no gunshots, I see no police, nor soldiers. Let alone tanks or other instruments of war. Nothing on the TV, nothing in the papers here, nothing on the radio. I just had a phonecall with a friend who lives roughly 250 km away and asked him if he thought a war was going on. He's still laughing.

There is no war going on. Sure enough, we currently see an influx of migrants and refugees. These people are just people like you and me: they are mostly totally harmless, the only thing they want is a good life, to be lead in peace. We can provide this and should provide this. My country has 17 million inhabitants - and we're talking about 90.000 refugees at most, more probably 50.000 or so. That's roughly a half percent of the total population.

If that half percent really started a war, we could simply end it by sitting on them



posted on Mar, 8 2016 @ 06:11 AM
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originally posted by: anxiouswens
People work in unsafe areas and it is Winter so goes dark very early. Women should be allowed to walk home from work, gym etc without fear. I could understand you saying what you are saying if it was 3 in the morning.

Just for the record women can be harrassed in public places in broad day light as has been happening at train stations in Europe and public swimming baths to a poor 10 year old boy. God knows how you can excuse this behaviour!

I have two incidents in my life where I wasnt anywhere dangerous.a reply to: nonspecific



I fully agree that in an ideal world anyone should be free to go anywhere at any time without fear of assault.

The reality of the situation however is that this is not the case.

The other reality is that this was the case long before refugee immigrants came to Europe, Muggers and sexual predators are not a new invention unfortunatly.



posted on Mar, 8 2016 @ 06:19 AM
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originally posted by: ForteanOrg

originally posted by: residentofearth
a reply to: RosinitiateThe story was addressed to the Man with sunny day outside the window with animals.


That would be me, methinks.

Well, when I peeked out my window last night it was dark. But it's quite sunny now, so let's take a look at "the War" that you insist is ongoing here. Mm.. indeed: the deer are nowhere in sight - they mostly hide into the bushes during the day. But I hear no gunshots, I see no police, nor soldiers. Let alone tanks or other instruments of war. Nothing on the TV, nothing in the papers here, nothing on the radio. I just had a phonecall with a friend who lives roughly 250 km away and asked him if he thought a war was going on. He's still laughing.

There is no war going on. Sure enough, we currently see an influx of migrants and refugees. These people are just people like you and me: they are mostly totally harmless, the only thing they want is a good life, to be lead in peace. We can provide this and should provide this. My country has 17 million inhabitants - and we're talking about 90.000 refugees at most, more probably 50.000 or so. That's roughly a half percent of the total population.

If that half percent really started a war, we could simply end it by sitting on them



Yeah of course they are harmless and we should help them BUT AFTER VERIFICATION. I have the same opinion, in my 40 million country 20,000-30,000 refugees would be even invisible. But REAL refugees, not economic immgrants. This is difference. And it is not mine or yours fault. It's a fault of bad US, EU policy to make countries in Europe without will to fight and protect our (in polish case) 1000 year tradition! I am really about to help, but media are silence when it comes about causes of the crisis and real situation.


Going for the university, so smile my friends, we are on the same side of the fience.


PS. World is very small right now, events in one place could effect on the another very far away. So yeah, we are at war.
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posted on Mar, 8 2016 @ 06:27 AM
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originally posted by: anxiouswens
I notice how you skip 9/11 and blame the West for Islamic terrorism!. So if everything stems from the West going into Iraq then why did Islamic terrorists fly planes into the twin towers and kill thousands?

Considering the site you are on I should hope you would be aware that the most powerful country in the world was not undermined by several primitives, but rather destroyed from within. Even if one were to make the fallacious argument that Iraq was a retort rather than the initiation, it still incriminates the west for invading a country that did not harm them, rather than the alleged perpetrators of 9/11. This, of course, is due to the Saudis being their #1 ally since 1986.



Why do people try and blame the refugee crisis on the West and in particular Europe when the rise of ISIS came about because of civil war in Syria before the UK, Europe were ever involved in Syria?

Simple, because the west deserves the blame. ISIS would never have begun without the power vacuum left by Saddam's disposal, and never would have flourished without our covert arms.

I mean no disrespect, but I see history is not your strong suit.



posted on Mar, 8 2016 @ 06:48 AM
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a reply to: nonspecific




there may be a little bias in the reporting here.


And?

You have nothing to say about the statistics or conclusions reached but decide to bring in factionalism? sheesh...



posted on Mar, 8 2016 @ 06:50 AM
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originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: nonspecific




there may be a little bias in the reporting here.


And?

You have nothing to say about the statistics or conclusions reached but decide to bring in factionalism? sheesh...


I was simply pointing out the the source for the links mission statement showed that the organisation putting the material out had a politically biased agenda and therefore should not be taken as read to be unbiased and factual in it's entirety.



posted on Mar, 8 2016 @ 06:50 AM
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originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: 7devilsinurheart

So did the 10 year old boy in the OP link deserve a good raping then?
Poor lad never voted for any wars, you sound like you are justifying rapists because their countries were bombed.
Strange line of reasoning in my opinion anyway.

That is abhorrant but so is :

1 in 20 children in the UK being sexually abused
90% by someone they know
It is believed that the true level is 3 times higher.

The problem is not a muslim one but general problem with adults abusing children. Why the concentration on one case of abuse reported as if "typical" (evil muslim scum) and ignoring the non muslim problem (87% "decent" white UK citizens) that sickeningly high?

Seems to me white christians are no different to muslims when it comes to behaving badly but those that are on the same road as the Germans of 1930 are ignoring one in favour of exaggerated hate of the other.



posted on Mar, 8 2016 @ 06:53 AM
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a reply to: MrSpad



Feels like this article source would have a lot in common with certain groups in the US that have a lot of Ks in its initials.


So you get plenty of stars for what is essentially a trollish comment. I see how this works



posted on Mar, 8 2016 @ 07:34 AM
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a reply to: Justso

Yeah me too. Big Creek Mississippi. I learned to protect myself because men are human too and need help. And gone a lot..


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posted on Mar, 8 2016 @ 07:38 AM
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originally posted by: 7devilsinurheart

It was too late after US invaded Iraq after 911. That started the 'war' of terror. You're just feeding the fear dragon.


100% Europe is equally guilty

"THAT" Started the war on terror???

Unbelievable. I think there was something that happened in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania that started it.

Radical Fundamentalist Islam is a Cancer on Humanity. Tell me why it's not? Notice I said Radical Fundamentalist Islam, not Islam. I call I t like I see it. Radical Fundamentalist Islam has no place in modern society and people aren't bad or evil for not wanting it in their country.
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posted on Mar, 8 2016 @ 07:39 AM
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a reply to: yorkshirelad

I didn't say it was a Muslim problem, that is your invention.
I was replying to the now banned member who said we deserve it because their countries were bombed.
Get the context right fella.



posted on Mar, 8 2016 @ 08:26 AM
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a reply to: cavtrooper7


You are probably correct. My capacity for empathy for human suffering has always made me an outsider. I realized that in first grade. I had been isolated in the Mississippi woods before that.

I don't know why I stumbled onto ATS, but, that is the thing about my weakness, I just can't help myself. Maybe at 65, I have found my strength in the world of technology.



posted on Mar, 8 2016 @ 09:16 AM
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originally posted by: Starcrossd

originally posted by: honeybadger

I just wanna say this: I am a Swedish female, living in a so called "no-go-zone"... This is the truth! There is no hiding the facts any more. I know TWO women who have been raped by "immigrants"!

Whenever I am walking by myself nowadays and it is dark... I say a silent prayer there is a Swedish man close nearby and that he will be brave enough to risk his all... Even though I might not deserve it. Even though he might not have the balls.

It is way worse than you think...


I fear for you honeybadger..is there anything you are allowed to carry to help defend yourself? Can you organize friends so you all are never alone? This makes me sick that your country is losing itself.


originally posted by: Sparkymedic
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Have you approached any refugees in a welcoming way? Have you introduced yourself? Or have you been scared stiff by the media machine who is hell bent on keeping your rigid illusion of culture alive and well, so you fall in line and do as you are told?

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Are you #ing serious?! I am betting you are not female and have never been in a situation like this!


If I am or not what does it matter? Feel free to live in fear and perpetuate the culture illusion AND divide it causes. It will get you nowhere, that I can promise.

I'm not ignorant to violence against women from other cultures. But to what extent will we allow women to be victims of not only violence but also the illusions (culture) which they/ we try and protect?! Stand up and be a f-ing human!!! This BS is being used to forment that anger you spewed at me.

What do you suggest? Throw them back over their imaginary lines in the sand and pretend it's not happening? Get a grip!!!



posted on Mar, 8 2016 @ 09:55 AM
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originally posted by: 7devilsinurheart
Good we deserve it for all the xenophobic bashing


This semester I'm taking a class on the "Colonization of Africa" which basically follows African history from the 1500's to the present. European immigrants seeking religious freedom went to Africa and wouldn't leave. Missionaries went to Africa to convert Africans to their brand of christianity.
Next came the military and Europe began a systematic take over of Africa. Europeans basically told Africans that their culture, religion and way of life was wrong and commenced to destroying and raping Africa for economic gain. Oh and lets not forget European invader immigrant men raped the African women on the regular to gain control of the continent as well. Just like the Swedish women that are being raped by immigrants today.

So, yes you are right Europe has bad karma, and I can't believe how uneducated most Europeans and people of European decent on this site are to Europe's xenophobic bashing ways. But I get it, Europeans have to be proud of their history of rape and pillaging because it's all they have.

To anyone interested the name of the book I'm studying is: HISTORY OF AFRICA 3rd edition by Kevin Shillington
Read it so you'll understand that it's no coincidence that Sweden and other European nations are being over ran by immigrants. Invading and rape is the European way.



posted on Mar, 8 2016 @ 11:26 AM
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a reply to: Teeky

Lol I see you are from the US, I guess you cry tears for your collective responsibility #ing the native American's over then.
I carry no responsibility for anyone involved in the current migrant situation...but if you wish to carry it for me then cool.



posted on Mar, 8 2016 @ 12:54 PM
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There are poeple in this world that view kindness as merely something to be exploited. These people aren't as rare as you may think and it would appear that they are organised.

The enemy is everywhere - they aren't restricted to any identifiable demographic. Your politicians and media aren't stupid or prone to making decisions or broadcasts based on emotional perspectives. This is merely manipulation and is their role in a secret war.

Imagine having no honour - take your time in doing so. This is what truly decent people are up against.

Society and reality are not what they seem, but the enemy are easy to identify. The tough part will be the actions neccessary in order to bring about justice: no good person wants to fight. They have used this against you for all history.

The destruction of evil will be an ugly, but essential spectacle. Don't lose focus during the conflict - hold on to the values that define you; the same values that have been under attack through their manifold and insidious methods of war.



posted on Mar, 8 2016 @ 01:41 PM
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originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: yuppa
I think you did some selective reading. I put in bold the missing word just in case....



so criminals have weapons not citizens




You EDITED IT and switched words around. NO i was correct. the person i was responding to SHOULD had made herself clearer then. Your white knight has failed.


Where did I edit it ? That was a direct copy
Dont be silly


First NOTHING was BOLDED. so yes you DID edit it. And you removed a few words.

HEre is what Littlebylittle said and i QUOTE

No. We have very strict gun laws so criminals have weapons not citizens.


Here si What I said after.

SO all th e swedish army are criminals? got it.


Then YOU SAID and i quote

a reply to: yuppa
I think you did some selective reading. I put in bold the missing word just in case....
quote:so criminals have weapons not citizens


SO dont try to play me. Youre trolling an d breaking the TnC modifying a quote.

So once again FAIL on your white knight and troll.




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