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originally posted by: BobbyMachiavelli69
a reply to: Azzezza
Ah, here's your biggest issue. This book, or at the times, a # load of stories. Written by people we can not trace and source their content. The subjectivity of your post indicates you believe the story to be true without being 1st, to prove the deity of this story to be true. To date, with tech, no one has one smidgen of empirical proof "it is written" then you bolster the fella with "he was of god" blah blah blah. Basically, every claim you make is based out of the fallacy of claim from ignorance/
Going beyond a general description of the formation of the continents and mountain ranges, The Urantia Book also gives specific details about the sinking of a peninsula off the eastern coast of the Mediterranean some 33,000 years ago. Sonar technology had not developed sufficiently at the time of The Urantia Book's publication to provide a clear picture of the topography of the eastern Mediterranean basin. Today's more advanced sonar mapping reveals a topography between Cyrus and the coast of Syria that not only aligns with Urantia Book's description, but also is located at the convergence of three highly active plates that produce an unusual crosscurrent of pressures. (source)
That's evidence that they called someone who is known as Melchizedek (specified by name as Machiventa in the Book so neglected by you) by a different name just as they renamed other gods in their own language. Your jumping from Ugaritic texts to Torah is interesting because it shows that you would use anything if it contradicts your opponent's point of view, even if it's something you are trying to disprove! Just remember for the sake of consistency in your argument that you are saying that Canaanites and Israelites had different beliefs, even so as to be contradictory!
Shem is believed to have been Melchizedek, King of Salem whom Abraham is recorded to have met after the battle of the four kings (source).
It's a 2000 [~4000] year old myth based off SOME [potentially] real people.
Sorry don't mean to offend in anyway
“The Word?” Does this not teach that the Word is the celestial YHWH who created the heaven and earth? Most are confused as to separate El and the creator YHWH. Both are the same and yet both are not to be understood. We cannot understand that which we cannot see, touch or smell. The only way we can comprehend YHWH was through His appearing to us as Yahusha (Jesus.) YHWH is our Creator God and El is His and our Most High God.
ʾĒl (or 'Il, written aleph-lamed, e.g. Ugaritic: 𐎛𐎍, Phoenician: 𐤀𐤋, Hebrew: אל, Syriac: ܐܠ, Arabic: إل or إله, cognate to Akkadian: ilu) is a Northwest Semitic word meaning "god" or "deity", or referring (as a proper name) to any one of multiple major Ancient Near East deities. A rarer spelling, "'ila", represents the predicate form in Old Akkadian and in Amorite. The word is derived from the Proto-Semitic archaic biliteral ʔ-L, meaning "god". Specific deities known as El or Il include the supreme god of the Canaanite religion, the supreme god of the Mesopotamian Semites in the pre-Sargonic period, and the god of the Hebrew Bible.
By the way my opinion is that YHWH is the Word and Creator and that El is Most High God of all creations.
You don't think your actions grieve the Holy Ghost?
originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: Seede
Further more it wasn't until the Babylonian captivity that Judaism became strictly monotheistic.
The whole house of cards is certainly precarious.
originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight a reply to: Seede Further more it wasn't until the Babylonian captivity that Judaism became strictly monotheistic.
Some scholars propose a date between the 16th and 13th centuries bc
We should concentrate on better understood concepts, such as the relationship of Jesus to God the Father. Or the whole universalizing of religions and abandoning the Christ-figure ("May his name and his memory be wiped out") that Pope Francis is trying to do today
its quite simple Jesus was ready to take a physical kingship on earth- he was descended from David.
All these major religions are created to control "man"; they all can be traced back to The Brotherhood of The Snake
Commandment one: there is only one god
lol Commandment one: there is only one god
The event described in these verses may seem repulsive to many and totally out of character with the personality of Elisha, a man who was more peaceful and personal than Elijah. As Krummacher remarks, “A deadly burst of vengeance upon a troop of wanton youths; a curse pronounced upon them in the name of the Lord! How characteristic of the legal dispensation! But how opposite to all we have said of the character and call of Elisha, as a messenger of the kindness and love of God our Saviour!
it does control men and the Abrahamic religions are its antithesis, quite an important distinction to make really
Yes Jehovah was a less than perfect "Jealous" god, such a perfect being; 2 sets of commandments, free will and yet Adam was punished when the perfect god had his back turned (omniscience-yeah?). But even without the free will Jesus was pre-existing just in the unlikely event that Adam would sin - so he could be the perfect sacrifice. Quite a few leaps of logic there.
It doesnt strike you as odd that man would constantly have to be reminded? Where was he hiding amongst his competitors?
Jehovah also came along at the right time for such serious transgressions as children calling Elisha "bald", 2 bears eating 42 children - real nice.
originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: wisvol
Try the "Gods OF Eden" by Willam Bramley, its a real eye opener - you can see for yourself and it fills the dots as to the deliberate lapses in the religious texts. They don't want you to be free or awakened - in a nutshell - soul food for the gods.
Some mystical religions teach that one's ultimate spiritual aim should be to permanently "merge with" or "rejoin" a Supreme Being. This appears to be a false goal. (p. 441).