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States with lower iq vote more heavily for Clinton

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posted on Mar, 6 2016 @ 02:41 AM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

Using his bankruptcies as a 2-4 sentence talking point sure does work well in today's political atmosphere though.

As for whitewater....
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh the devil sleeps but if you speak its name she might awaken & the world shall tremble.




posted on Mar, 6 2016 @ 02:41 AM
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originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: deadlyhope

That should be an advantage for Trump as he loves Poorly educated people so much but give him time he will alienate them just like he has alienated the minorities, women, moderate Republicans and Christians. With out the minority vote, he's doa anyway.

Doesn't matter, Trump is getting ready to fold. He's not stupid, he knows full well the GOP won't give him the nomination.


Notice Clinton and Trump are basically winning the same states and Bernie & Cruz are winning similar states.



posted on Mar, 6 2016 @ 02:42 AM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

Hmm fair enough. Some good answers for common anti trump talk..

I'll have to see his actual stances on the issues and such, perhaps he could gain my support if enough of the anti trump speech is less warranted than I originally believed.

I'm Sanders for now simply because he's the only one I currently feels cares about the people. He doesn't have the slimy narcissistic psychopath feel to him, and really calls upon individuals to stand up against tyranny.

Though, deeper down than that, I'm more capitalistic at heart - I want everyone to be able to afford all they can, and only receive help after they do all they can do for themselves. Our current system warrants change, either way.

Universal health care

Or free market, competitive Healthcare - and keep things like Medicare around.

I'm good with either one as my main desire is people are taken care of. I don't see the second being possible, but if it was, it would have my vote, as capitalism at its core can do great things.
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posted on Mar, 6 2016 @ 02:44 AM
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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: burgerbuddy

Dude i respect your opinion ....i still think you are delusional......trump will make the rich richer and the poor dead or in debtors prison......the path you are on will not bring the "hope and change" you envision it will


No, haven't you been reading Burdman's posts?

I'm totally in agreement with what he's saying and that's the way I think Trump is going to work it, only Burdman says it better than I.



posted on Mar, 6 2016 @ 02:46 AM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

Fair enough. They do have ties to a lot of people.... Not sure how to get rid of the corruption other than extremes like assassination and vigilantism.. Which I am not advocating.



posted on Mar, 6 2016 @ 02:49 AM
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I'm totally in agreement with what he's saying and that's the way I think Trump is going to work it, only Burdman says it better than I.


He can make rotten eggs smell like roses for all i care, with trump in power the little person/home business will all but disappear....lets face it though that is where the world is headed ....big business is now so powerful it can literally decide the fate of a mom and pop business......just between you and me that is not the world i want my kids to be faced with



posted on Mar, 6 2016 @ 02:49 AM
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originally posted by: deadlyhope
a reply to: burdman30ott6

Not sure how to get rid of the corruption other than extremes like assassination and vigilantism.. Which I am not advocating.


Tell ya what, I might actually register & vote for the first politician that did advocate those things



posted on Mar, 6 2016 @ 03:04 AM
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a reply to: deadlyhope

Well you didn't provide any data but it's clear that you have judged.
You even made a thread about it.



posted on Mar, 6 2016 @ 03:14 AM
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a reply to: deadlyhope

That may be true, but possibly more important is that lower IQ states are mostly in the south and vote primarily Republican overall. Look up IQ by state and party affiliation/voting record by IQ. Strong connection for both.



posted on Mar, 6 2016 @ 03:45 AM
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a reply to: deadlyhope

That wouldn't explain why Trump won the vote of highly educated people in MA. Trumps appeal is broader than people give him credit for.



posted on Mar, 6 2016 @ 04:14 AM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

We do have a say, it's called:

1. Our vote (which you've already mentioned)

2. Bootstraps/better job/build better mouse trap

Conservatives tell people all the time to "raise themselves up" if they don't have enough money...

Interestingly, when a conservative complains about not having enough, it's not because they aren't paid enough. Nope, it's because someone else is stealing from them.

How is it OK to tell someone ELSE to get a better job, but when it comes to the conservative...they don't need to?

As usual, I'm probably missing something.



posted on Mar, 6 2016 @ 04:27 AM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

He's saying America isn't great though. That's pretty damn anti-American. If someone has to "make America great again" -- that implies that it isn't great.

That's pretty low and quite the defeatist attitude.

Americans have it better now than at any other time in history. Women can vote. Interracial couples and gay people can marry, we don't have segregated schools. Our military is bigger than anyone else, and there's a McDonalds and Walmart in almost every corner of the globe.

Does America have a crap-ton of problems? Sure.

And you know, with a country as large and diverse as America -- that's to be expected. It's not going to be peaches and cream when you have such a diverse and massive landmass trying to keep everyone happy. I'd say we've done a pretty damn good job keeping everything together.

The "sky is falling" syndrome that the right-wingers have been screeching since Obama took office (funny, they didn't wail and carry on over our last Democrat POTUS nearly as much. . .) is nothing more than fear mongering, which has been proven to more effective among conservative thinking people. Fear plays a much larger part of the conservative decision making processes.

And I'd really, REALLY like to know when America WAS GREAT. Show me Donald, when? Tell us when America was so great?

Was it 1955? Sure, it was great if you were a white male...

And we're never going to see the kind of economic growth we saw in America after WWII. The whole world was bombed to hell in the aftermath, except for the USA. We had tons of able-bodied soldiers coming home to fired up factories ready to rebuild the entire world. That golden-age of the middle class is gone, it's not coming back.

This whole "nostalgia for a long-gone-age" is a pipe dream -- and only was great for some. We simply cannot force today's America to revert back to that period in American history. We can't recapture it either. We're to diverse and to big.

This is a huge problem to me.

America is to friggin' big.

Why in the hell does someone in New Hampshire have a say over how the timber industry in Alaska is regulated? Do those folks there have any clue what the place even looks like? NO! Does someone in Florida care about if chemical ice melt should or shouldn't be used on Alaskan roads? Probably not, but their congressmen will vote on it in Washington DC anyway.

I get what conservatives are going for -- but it won't happen when we have a country as massive and diverse as it is. It simply cannot happen.

Unless we break up America into regional autonomous countries, we won't ever see responsive and nimble governments that react and represent the unique cultural and geographical differences of the people living in them.

So we either have to accept America is a big, lumbering and slow to react beast -- or break America up into smaller countries.



posted on Mar, 6 2016 @ 06:44 AM
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Yes and of 4.2 million registered voters we have less than 500K voters that vote Republican, in fact this Primary... 468,295 voted Republican so... 31% of 468,295 voted for Trump in Massachusetts.

I think the thread is meant to be silly or light entertainment but you got all serious and on the thinnest of limbs...



posted on Mar, 6 2016 @ 07:01 AM
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originally posted by: 222mockingbirdlane
So, almost every state so far has a low IQ, and supposedly, Oklahoma, Texas, Alaska & Georgia have the highest IQ?
Not sure how this holds up.


I was going to say ... don't point that out to certain posters who LOVE to denigrate where they live and the people who share the air they breathe.

I would think you could make a better case for correlating minority population with Clinton vote, but then you have the unsavory assumption posted in the OP about IQ ... but honestly the minority vote has never been feeling the BERN. Minorities are not socialist it seems even though they love wealth redistribution.



posted on Mar, 6 2016 @ 07:05 AM
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a reply to: MystikMushroom

Yes, and for those people who like Trump. America was great and will be great just as soon as the government gets out of our lives.

America as it was "transformed" into over the past 8 years is not America as it should be. It's an America that broke during the crash and instead of being given the physical therapy it needed, you progressives slapped a nose ring in it and put on purple wig and proclaimed if "FABULOUS!" but left it crippled.

America needs to be rehabilitated and allowed to fix itself, but none of you have actually done that. You're too busy fixing the wig and wiping its butt and the drool while America isn't even allowed to try doing anything for itself because you like it as an invalid and not a strong, independent country of strong, independent people.



posted on Mar, 6 2016 @ 07:10 AM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
Yes, and for those people who like Trump. America was great and will be great just as soon as the government gets out of our lives.


And how would a Trump Presidency get the government out of our lives?



posted on Mar, 6 2016 @ 07:10 AM
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originally posted by: MystikMushroom
Interestingly, when a conservative complains about not having enough, it's not because they aren't paid enough. Nope, it's because someone else is stealing from them.


Under America's present tax structure, a family of 4 can make $50,000 a year and receive a greater lickback check from the IRS in April than they paid that year in federal taxes. Every tax payer making more than that threshold actually pays 106% of the IRS "income." How is it possible to pay 106%, you ask? The 6% actually represents the required overrun to cover that additional Kept Voter money.

I've said this many times before, I'd not complain if a flat tax was adopted which at least lacked the kept voter base. Under the present system, if a person if above the Kept Voter Kickback threshold, the more they earn, the more of their wealth is taken from them to fund the very policies they're quickly losing say over as the Kept Voter base inches closer to exceeding 50% of voters, at which point the Meal Ticket is eternally ensured of being elected every 4 years.



posted on Mar, 6 2016 @ 07:11 AM
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read a survey broken down by income and education.... as far as democrat voters go the survey showed that educated dem voters supported sanders with at least 60% of the vote until you got to people with post graduate degrees.[not a very large group in comparison to the rest] only then did hillary pull ahead of sanders and nearly an even split.
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posted on Mar, 6 2016 @ 07:13 AM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: ketsuko
Yes, and for those people who like Trump. America was great and will be great just as soon as the government gets out of our lives.


And how would a Trump Presidency get the government out of our lives?


I didn't say it would. I just said that's the perception they have.

We saw this same thing with Obama. They all thought he'd fix everything a la Hope and Change, too. I know what Trump voters want, and while I don't think he'll give it to them, I do think I know what most of them want.



posted on Mar, 6 2016 @ 07:17 AM
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originally posted by: MystikMushroom
And I'd really, REALLY like to know when America WAS GREAT. Show me Donald, when? Tell us when America was so great?

Was it 1955? Sure, it was great if you were a white male...

*SNIP*

Why in the hell does someone in New Hampshire have a say over how the timber industry in Alaska is regulated? Do those folks there have any clue what the place even looks like? NO! Does someone in Florida care about if chemical ice melt should or shouldn't be used on Alaskan roads? Probably not, but their congressmen will vote on it in Washington DC anyway.


You answered your own question and it didn't even require the attempt at setting a trap of racial disharmony.

In 1959, New Hampshire had much, MUCH less say over the direction of Alaska because Washington DC had less say (I'm using 1959 rather than 1955 because statehood had been achieved in 1959. Technically speaking, prior to statehood, DC may have had a similar level of say-so over AK as they have today.) The meddling overreach of Washington DC, the trodding upon of the 10th Amendment, and the fleecing of state's rights and wealth by DC is bullsnip. You damn well know that, too, and that's why you (and many other liberals) rarely ever seem to include the smaller government portion of Conservative America's argument.




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