posted on Jan, 13 2005 @ 01:24 PM
How exactly do you know for certain that the manipulation was not done by some to make people think that everyone in Fallujah was a moderate
Exactly. I do not know. Neither do you. Therefore, the possibility of manipulation is there is it not ? Really depends on what we read see and hear
right ? Do you know what's going on inside your neighbour's home at this time ? Probably not. Why ? No news cameras and reporters ! Prior to the
offensive, we were TOLD by the American military and the press that Fallujah was a hotbed of insurgency.
Most people left Fallujah before the attacks, it is very possible that some insurgents went with these people, but most certainly most if not all
of them are moderate Muslims that left Fallujah.
Well, I can't be sure. Neither can you. Children are there. Families are still there. If you subscribe to children as being "possibly innocent"
civilians, then why are you bothering as well ? Children are not moderate Muslims. So, there is evidence of innocent Muslims/civilians still in
Just like the warlords in Somalia have taken control of the place, and were not allowing international aid including food to be distributed to the
people because they wanted the control, the same has been happening in Fallujah.
You are probably right on this. But what really is happening in Fallujah ? You know for a fact or you base your opinion on what you read and hear ?
These days because of the new blackout, there is precious little coming out of Fallujah to form any firm opinion. Anyone rounded up hundreds or
thousands of CONFIRMED insurgents lately ? Or are ALL PEOPLE including CHILDREN "possibly innocent" ? That's the crap we are getting even now. See
the slant of the press releases ??
Don't be so sure to deem other's post "a stark example of manipulation," when yours is a clear example of one. You are being manipulated by the
"Holywood and Moore crowd."
Why so defensive ? I certainly did not think that my post was a damning of others' views. Guy, I do not have a crystal ball and neither do you. We
really depend on news. If there is plenty before the assault, it's a justification exercise. If there is none or little leaking out during the
assault, then everyone is left guessing or base their opininos on whatever they can see or hear. The views were so polarised. So, one side of views is
definitely correct and the other definitely wrong ? Compare Baghdad Bob's version with Fox News will ya ? Yes, I am capable of being manipulated. So
is everyone. really depends on what you see and hear at any given time.
Not everyone in Fallujah is an insurgent, or terrorist, but Fallujah has been an insurgent/terrorist stronghold for sometime. Do check the link
that I gave about what is trully happening in Fallujah and you will see the evidence.
Agree. And point being ??? The link is the be all and end all of Fallujah ?
If you are going to think that every piece of information is being manipulated, and you can't make a choice on your own by looking at all the
information, then why do you bother with this at all?...
Never said that EVERY piece of information is being manipulated. WHEN AND HOW the information is given is also manipulation. I can make a choice. My
post was never about making a choice. My post was about the tonnes of information before the assault and precious little after it's commenced. Makes
many think that a mistake has been made YET AGAIN. I believe that that's a major reason why the views are so polarised. All of us make choices.
Choices based on reason and logic and information. If there is no or little information now as compared to the vast amounts prior to the assault, then
six and half a dozen people will have suspicions, the others, just rely on what they are told. When the fighting for control of Baghdad and other
parts of the country was on, news and publicity were made real time. Now, zip. Children being bombed to smithereens : "..possibly innocent
civilians..". The slant and bias even to this day is ridiculous.
So, lighten up. Stop being a diamond mine.