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Art experts or enthusiasts I have a question about an old painting.

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posted on Mar, 3 2016 @ 11:03 PM
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Hi

We have an old painting that was my great grandmothers. It was sent to her as a wedding gift from overseas (in Europe) by her brother while in the service. We are not exactly sure the year, but we know she was married in 1939. She said the painting was of " William of Orange " age 8.

We have had it for 10 years now and dont know anything else about it and have always been curious if its worth anything or just sentimental.







TY. For any input.




posted on Mar, 3 2016 @ 11:34 PM
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a reply to: ilikebooze

Hello. I am uncertain if this is him or will help you, but take a look. Sorry. Link didnt work so google this. The wikimedia link was the one I tried to post.
William_II_of_Orange Nassau_by_Sir_Anthony_Van_Dyck-2.Q
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Let me know if anything

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posted on Mar, 4 2016 @ 12:03 AM
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originally posted by: Tiamat384
a reply to: ilikebooze

Hello. I am uncertain if this is him or will help you, but take a look. Sorry. Link didnt work so google this. The wikimedia link was the one I tried to post.
William_II_of_Orange Nassau_by_Sir_Anthony_Van_Dyck-2.Q

Let me know if anything


Ty. That would be nice if it was van dycks painting. But the signature doesnt look like it. It might be a copy of one of his paintings. But I can never find the original painting on line.



posted on Mar, 4 2016 @ 12:06 AM
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a reply to: ilikebooze

On your painting is the signature T. Lukny? Or am I reading it incorrectly?



posted on Mar, 4 2016 @ 12:08 AM
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originally posted by: Tiamat384
a reply to: ilikebooze

On your painting is the signature T. Lukny? Or am I reading it incorrectly?


That or F. lukny. it might not be a u either. its hard to read. thst id the best picture of alot that I took of the signature.



posted on Mar, 4 2016 @ 12:11 AM
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a reply to: ilikebooze

If that isnt a u then it could only be an "a" I assume.



posted on Mar, 4 2016 @ 12:16 AM
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originally posted by: Tiamat384
a reply to: ilikebooze

If that isnt a u then it could only be an "a" I assume.


I think its a U. And I have tried googling the name a few times (when I get a hair up my ass) with no luck. I wish we knew more about it.

Its a very good painting especially the eyes.


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posted on Mar, 4 2016 @ 12:20 AM
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a reply to: ilikebooze

Well the fact there is nothing about leads to the conclusion that the artists is unknown and the painting to be of little value. Except for sentimental value which may be high. I would like to know the origins.



posted on Mar, 4 2016 @ 12:26 AM
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originally posted by: Tiamat384
a reply to: ilikebooze

Well the fact there is nothing about leads to the conclusion that the artists is unknown and the painting to be of little value. Except for sentimental value which may be high. I would like to know the origins.


Yes me too. I dont even know where he was over seas and he died before ever seeing her again.



posted on Mar, 4 2016 @ 12:29 AM
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a reply to: ilikebooze

It could have been taken as loot. Only way I could imagine it. Must have some sort of story though.



posted on Mar, 4 2016 @ 12:45 AM
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I actually found a picture of the original, by searching Van dyck willianm of Orange. It is a Van dyck copy.That is more than I knew about it before. So ty

www.cardcow.com...



posted on Mar, 4 2016 @ 12:57 AM
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originally posted by: Tiamat384
a reply to: ilikebooze

It could have been taken as loot. Only way I could imagine it. Must have some sort of story though.


He had a little black journal he wrote in during the war , that was sent to my GGM. I never thought to read through it looking for hints about the painting.

I think I will do that later.



posted on Mar, 4 2016 @ 02:47 AM
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originally posted by: ilikebooze

originally posted by: Tiamat384
a reply to: ilikebooze

It could have been taken as loot. Only way I could imagine it. Must have some sort of story though.


He had a little black journal he wrote in during the war , that was sent to my GGM. I never thought to read through it looking for hints about the painting.

I think I will do that later.

That journal would interest me much more than the painting. My grandfather kept a journal during WWII, and it is absolutely fascinating.

Soulwaxer



posted on Mar, 4 2016 @ 04:15 AM
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Henry Stuart, Duke of Glouster

National Gallery of Art info about the original image.

Nothing about that artist, it looks as though your painter was doing some practice copy work.



posted on Mar, 4 2016 @ 08:21 AM
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originally posted by: Thalestris
Henry Stuart, Duke of Glouster

National Gallery of Art info about the original image.

Nothing about that artist, it looks as though your painter was doing some practice copy work.


Hmm, i guess it's not william of orange. But obviously a copy of a very famous painting. Ty for that.



posted on Mar, 4 2016 @ 08:33 AM
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originally posted by: soulwaxer

originally posted by: ilikebooze

originally posted by: Tiamat384
a reply to: ilikebooze

It could have been taken as loot. Only way I could imagine it. Must have some sort of story though.


He had a little black journal he wrote in during the war , that was sent to my GGM. I never thought to read through it looking for hints about the painting.

I think I will do that later.

That journal would interest me much more than the painting. My grandfather kept a journal during WWII, and it is absolutely fascinating.

Soulwaxer


I asked my wife this morning where that book was, she said she knows but its buried away in a box in the shed.

Now all of a sudden I am interested in reading it. 10 years ago we were just like hey look a journal, flipped through it and threw back in a box.

There is also 2 uniforms in there. which are pretty cool.
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posted on Mar, 4 2016 @ 09:53 AM
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a reply to: Tiamat384

Just because an artist is unknown does not mean that there is no value to the painting--it just means that it may not be worth millions of dollars.

Anyone who watches things like the Antiques Roadshow knows that art that isn't even signed can go for tens of thousands of dollars if it's a very good representation of a particular style or period.

In the same breath, not all artwork by famous artists is worth a lot of money, either.



posted on Mar, 4 2016 @ 09:55 AM
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a reply to: Thalestris

Very nice catch...comparing to the original, the copy leaves much to be desired, but it's still pretty good, especially if done by an amateur painter.



posted on Mar, 4 2016 @ 12:26 PM
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If you find anything interesting could you share? Sorry for asking, but it just seems so interesting. The thoughts of a young man in combat and in the greatest war!



posted on Mar, 4 2016 @ 12:29 PM
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Well I meant much value. I'm unaware what I actually wrote, but I may have misworded. The works by the famous tend to be worth a lot because of their names...
That's horrible criteria, but it is true. As is it would seem to be a copy/replica so doubtful to be worth too much.

Off topic, but basing on your location are you in the same physical spot I am, but on a different plane/realm/dimension?



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