Congrats on your new president!

a reply to: Helious

It doesn't matter what he wants. The Constitution says he can't have one

Are talking about the TP in the white house. The handlers in DC don't care about a piece of paper written over 200 years ago.

a reply to: eluryh22

National spokesman for the Black Panthers?

a reply to: Helious

I agree, but poor Bernie is too old and decrepit, if he wins he will go into history as one term president and the lamest one.

a reply to: spinalremain

OH .no,no,no we have Brilliant leaders in fact some of the best in the world.
They are NOT going to be seen with THAT crowd.
Honor is their byeline it's a forgotten trait anymore.

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: Helious

I agree, but poor Bernie is too old and decrepit, if he wins he will go into history as one term president and the lamest one.

Hey, if one can make the history books as the oldest most irrelevant president in US history, still beats dying without anyone remembering your name.

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: Helious

I agree, but poor Bernie is too old and decrepit, if he wins he will go into history as one term president and the lamest one.

Yeah cause he would prolly die of 'natural causes' like Scalia half way through.

Obama is not going to be President past his term. Point of fact, I would guess that given his druthers he'd probably happily walk away today. Like or hate Obama, there is no denying the fact that he has faced obstruction on an unprecedented level. The opposition laid waste to the previous filibuster record under his administration. They are set to nearly triple the record for the longest SCOTUS conformation block ( and while not even going through the motions of hearings, which is totally unprecedented ).

Personally, if I were Obama I think I'd have already said "Screw you guys, I'm going home... Have at it."

In a rational world I would agree that Hillary would be, at the very least, disqualified before the election. But it will not happen. Wall St and the lobbyists have her back. She is an insider, just as nearly every other candidate is. For all of the hyperbole, her legal situation is somewhat less problematic than the one Patreus faced... and he was charged with a misdemeanor in the end... and he was not somebody who has gotten somewhere in the neighborhood of ten million dollars of "investment" paid into. Hillary has been bought for about that amount.

Hillary will be the Democratic nominee. I hate it, but it is what will come to pass.

Trump is harder to pin down ATM. He is playing the role of the ultimate outsider... however the revelation that the Koch brothers are not going to spend money to try and take him down in favor of an establishment candidate ( They own several states and a sizable portion of Congress... the White House is well within their grasp ) is a massive red flag. We're used to lap dogs running for office. Petty politicians who want to snuggle up to billionaires. Trump is not a lap dog, but he is a billionaire. Is he an "outsider" or is he really just way more insider than anyone we've previously seen? Have the masters gotten tired of sending in their pets and chipping away at the system to the point where they're just going to send in one of their own to bring it all crashing down in a single act?

I think it's entirely possible.

The GOP establishment may seek to try and play dirty tricks come RNC time... but I'm of the opinion that they will not work. The groundswell underneath Trump is too powerful. There are too many Americans who want to watch it all burn and who are not thinking about what comes afterward. The irony here, of course, is that the people who have screamed the most about fear of dictatorship seem Hell bent upon enabling exactly that.

Sanders has the best of intentions. Sadly the machine is chewing him up and will soon spit him out. Hillary and the DNC are already trying to brush him away like so much dandruff. The media is happy to be more than complicit in this regard. They will bury Bernie no matter what happens.

It will be Trump V Clinton, barring something totally unforeseeable, like an assassination... Which means we're basically screwed. I don't think it will be the death of our Republic. But I do think that time will look back upon the next several years as our darkest.

a reply to: Hefficide

Obama can not leave, he is the one holding Hillary indictment at bay right now so she can be nominated to presidential candidate.

a reply to: Helious

I agree, I have to say that every time I see him on TV it looks to me like he will be passing out in front of the cameras.

a reply to: Hefficide

A lot of us know that but it's funny because the ones on the other side of the were saying the same things just before Bush left office. Interesting times.

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: Hefficide

Obama can not leave, he is the one holding Hillary indictment at bay right now so she can be nominated to presidential candidate.

Maybe Trump winning wouldn't be such a bad thing.

At least maybe,just maybe the department of injustice would turn back into the department of JUSTICE.

a reply to: neo96

There's that wanting to burn it all down thing I was talking about.

a reply to: neo96

No as long as the secretary of justice is an Obama chosen, for now they will not do a darn thing about all the evidence against Billary.

I suppose it's time for the trump anti-Christ or Hillary anti-Christ threads to start.

Hell, people are already calling Trump supporters "brownshirts' so it couldn't get any worse.

originally posted by: Hefficide
a reply to: neo96

There's that wanting to burn it all down thing I was talking about.

I wouldn't shed a tear.

Throw it ALL away and start over keeping that blankin piece of paper.

Out of the ashes restore the REPUBLIC.

a reply to: Helious

He isnt a socialist. Pisses me off seeing people say he is. Not that I support him.

Honestly, it doesn't matter. All the candidates mentioned support the federal reserve and the military industrial complex and outside of that, its a long winded dog and pony show.

a reply to: Helious

You are correct. It doesnt matter, but you know how it is surely, that feeling of so many people being ignorant about simply the name of something and then they either support or oppose it and its just frustrating!! Surely that can be understood?


Regardless it doesn't matter who becomes President. What do we need? We need to take money out of the equation so someone outside of politics and wealth can come to power.

Both wealth and power corrupt, but it is not instant and wealth taken out would reduce it.

originally posted by: theantediluvian

originally posted by: infolurker

originally posted by: DOCHOLIDAZE1
a reply to: Helious

obama will be president just wait and see.

LOL,

Some of the guys at work have mentioned this. It would be "irresponsible" for him to leave and turn over the Presidency to someone so "undeserving and dangerous".

Yeah, the "guys at work" sound like a real brain trust. How many of these people were also saying seven year ago that we'd be living in FEMA camps by now or that all of the Christian children would be taken from their parents by "the Muslim?"

Obama isn't going to try to stay in office. Get a grip.

Hey, that braintrust is a bunch of Bernie Supporters and HuffPo smokers.... And Trump / Cruz haters.

originally posted by: eluryh22
a reply to: Sremmos80

At the risk of sounding morbid. The only two things stopping her is the FBI and the Grim Reaper. I think the Grim Reaper has better odds. She doesn't seem to be doing all that well.

Well shes a Sith lord so ugliness is no gauge of her lifeforce.