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The Revenge of the Lower Classes and the Rise of American Fascism - Chris Hedges

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posted on Mar, 4 2016 @ 06:19 PM
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originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: Willtell

Bush started it.


Reagan started NAFTA

The North American Free Trade Agreement: Ronald Reagan's Vision Realized




posted on Mar, 4 2016 @ 06:45 PM
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a reply to: masqua

Just for poops and giggles, I clicked on your link... it's fun to go back in time (1993) and read what was written way back when.

This part had me laughing so hard, I just about fell out of my chair:


Since the mid-1980s, Heritage analysts have been stressing that a free trade agreement with Mexico not only will stimulate economic growth in the U.S., but will make Mexico a more stable and prosperous country. Heritage has published over three dozen studies stressing the benefits of free trade in North America.


The Heritage Foundation telling people NAFTA will be great for the overall economy...

... and forgetting to mention that when they say "overall economy", what (we now know) is that they really meant "overall multinational-corporate-relocation-to-gain-more-profits economy".




Hindsight is 20/20.

*sigh*



posted on Mar, 4 2016 @ 06:56 PM
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originally posted by: WeDemBoyz


Sanders is the only logical answer.

Bern the establishment down.



We got a good look at socialistic democracy in motion when the numbers superior democrats just jammed it (AHCA) down everyone throat. Socialism by superior numbers in the congress and white house. Thats all it is.

Democratic Socialism means "Hay our numbers are so good we don't have to debate this"!
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posted on Mar, 4 2016 @ 07:03 PM
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a reply to: CranialSponge

Look a little deeper into the Heritage Foundation and you will start seeing names like Scaife and Koch involved. They are the shadowy figures behind the Reagan abolishment of economic controls on oil and gas, complete with tax breaks on oil profits.

And they are all VERY disturbed by Trump's successes.

Isn't politics fun?






posted on Mar, 4 2016 @ 07:43 PM
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a reply to: CranialSponge

Sometimes the only option is to laugh so you don't cry I guess.



posted on Mar, 4 2016 @ 09:59 PM
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originally posted by: DAVID64

No, just tired of hearing that's all we are. Just a bunch of redneck hillbillies that don't know their ass from a hole in the ground, by snobbish, self proclaimed intellectuals, that really don't know what the real world is like. Getting to stay in school, with Mommy and Daddy paying the bills, to get an "education" that tells them Mommy and Daddy are sh**. They get to hide in their "safe places" where no one is allowed to speak against their idea because it may hurt their feelings and traumatize the little snow flakes.
They have finally pissed off the "lower class" to the point they are ready to elect anyone who will give them a voice.


I find it truly bizarre that this is what people think of people with college educations. I'm sure there are some who fit the caricatured prejudices of the anti-college crowd, but the majority do not - not in the slightest. I don't know if it's a matter of insecure people looking for the negativity they're expecting to find, or if it's just a matter of parroting the talking points fed from whatever the source all of the same-sounding "education is bad" / "everyone is a special snowflake" nonsense rants originate from. Ridiculous.



posted on Mar, 5 2016 @ 12:29 AM
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originally posted by: WeDemBoyz


Sanders is the only logical answer.

Bern the establishment down.


LOL Capitalism without Socialism is....capitalism

Socialism with a capitalist vaneer is Fascism



As an economic system, fascism is socialism with a capitalist veneer...Where socialism sought totalitarian control of a society’s economic processes through direct state operation of the means of production, fascism sought that control indirectly, through domination of nominally private owners...
www.econlib.org...
Democratic Socialism is basically Fascism



posted on Mar, 5 2016 @ 12:43 AM
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a reply to: masqua

Reagan was also an Ideologue.
While parts of his administration are illegal he was in support of the people as he understood it.
GW Jr was a complete tool for Dad via Cheney. Sr is a ghoul who is fed by power.
He KNEW what he was doing and I doubt he cares.



posted on Mar, 5 2016 @ 03:42 AM
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Errm - what a load of nonsense. This guy is rather pathetic really. He honestly thinks this is true? Very sad attempt at PC propaganda in my opinion. As a lifelong Leftist, I find these characterizations of those of us who are against the new socialist neo-nazi movement quite insulting and sad. Imposing forced cultural destruction, censorship, and globalist hegemony on your own people is not "progressive" or even remotely "Left Wing". What we are witnessing - and what the Trump movement is apparently reacting to - is a radically socialist totalitarian psuedo-facist movement - a movement that is being sanctified and legitimised by governments in the West. Is it "racist" to stand up against such a destructive trend? Absolutley not.

a reply to: HoldMyBeer


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posted on Mar, 5 2016 @ 03:58 AM
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originally posted by: AnonymousMoose

originally posted by: WeDemBoyz


Sanders is the only logical answer.

Bern the establishment down.


LOL Capitalism without Socialism is....capitalism

Socialism with a capitalist vaneer is Fascism





As an economic system, fascism is socialism with a capitalist veneer...Where socialism sought totalitarian control of a society’s economic processes through direct state operation of the means of production, fascism sought that control indirectly, through domination of nominally private owners...
www.econlib.org...
Democratic Socialism is basically Fascism


Agreed. Unfortunately, they don't seem to teach radical political theory in Univercity any more. What we are wittnessing in the West right now is a strong and violently repressive swing towards what I call "Neo-Facism". Governments are trying to impose facistic censorship and controls on people in all facets of every day life - thereby enabling themselves to implement dangerous and destructive polices upon the general population that only benefit the elites. Years of successful and relentless indoctrination in our places of higher learning - particularily in univercities (BLM are a classic example of severe indoctrination) - have desensitised the population, and instilled a doctrine of intolerance towards the people themselves - this has effectively created a "guilt reaction'" when the population's traditional and effective coping mechanisms and values are invoked. This plays right into the hands of the people who want to control the general population. Orwell was so prescient it's scary.
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posted on Mar, 5 2016 @ 04:13 AM
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originally posted by: dogstar23

originally posted by: DAVID64

No, just tired of hearing that's all we are. Just a bunch of redneck hillbillies that don't know their ass from a hole in the ground, by snobbish, self proclaimed intellectuals, that really don't know what the real world is like. Getting to stay in school, with Mommy and Daddy paying the bills, to get an "education" that tells them Mommy and Daddy are sh**. They get to hide in their "safe places" where no one is allowed to speak against their idea because it may hurt their feelings and traumatize the little snow flakes.
They have finally pissed off the "lower class" to the point they are ready to elect anyone who will give them a voice.


I find it truly bizarre that this is what people think of people with college educations. I'm sure there are some who fit the caricatured prejudices of the anti-college crowd, but the majority do not - not in the slightest. I don't know if it's a matter of insecure people looking for the negativity they're expecting to find, or if it's just a matter of parroting the talking points fed from whatever the source all of the same-sounding "education is bad" / "everyone is a special snowflake" nonsense rants originate from. Ridiculous.


Unfortunately, to a large degree he is correct. PC indoctrination IS producing a generation of sad and rather pathetic emotional invalids that will be incapable of dealing with the real world once ( or if..) they finally graduate. Teaching children to question is fine. However, indoctrinating them into a servile and self-destructive manifesto is dangerous at best. It's no wonder that the general population is reacting to this bizzarre and disconcerting trend. How exactly did these deluded socialist professors expect the public to react to the brainwashing of their children?



posted on Mar, 5 2016 @ 04:17 AM
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originally posted by: masqua

originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: Willtell

Bush started it.


Reagan started NAFTA

The North American Free Trade Agreement: Ronald Reagan's Vision Realized


Absolutely correct.

2nd



posted on Mar, 5 2016 @ 04:20 AM
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originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: tadaman

I take full responsibility. I was fooled by conservatism most of my life. I voted for Ronald Reagan, the downfall of the working/middle class.


Well, don't get fooled again then. The New Conservatives are the New leftists. Odd I know - true never the less. Political designations seem to have had a polar shift over the last few years. It's disconcerting I know, but pretty obvious too. The new Right is the old Left. It's taken me a few months to figure this out as well.. Facism is now cool and fun - it's official. But we now call it socialism and multi-cultural tolerance apparently.
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posted on Mar, 5 2016 @ 04:53 AM
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a reply to: jimbo999

That is why I love the world wide web. I love detective work.



posted on Mar, 5 2016 @ 05:05 AM
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originally posted by: jimbo999

originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: tadaman

I take full responsibility. I was fooled by conservatism most of my life. I voted for Ronald Reagan, the downfall of the working/middle class.


Well, don't get fooled again then. The New Conservatives are the New leftists. Odd I know - true never the less. Political designations seem to have had a polar shift over the last few years. It's disconcerting I know, but pretty obvious too. The new Right is the old Left. It's taken me a few months to figure this out as well.. Facism is now cool and fun - it's official. But we now call it socialism and multi-cultural tolerance apparently.


Like, how do I know that you are not a conservative operative, turning the wheels to confuse me what your motives and political theories are?



posted on Mar, 5 2016 @ 06:05 AM
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a reply to: mikell

I use to love preparing my own tax papers and getting to deduct all those items.



posted on Mar, 5 2016 @ 06:24 AM
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a reply to: cavtrooper7

Please research the times and the psychology at the time. Bill Ayers was produced by the system. Much like Anonymous. When the body count kept increasing and got closer and closer to 50k, the draftees knew. We boomers knew the Viet Nam war was about "OMG what are we going to do with all these kids after WW2".



posted on Mar, 5 2016 @ 07:41 AM
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originally posted by: AnonymousMoose

Democratic Socialism is basically Fascism


I prefer to let Bernie Sanders define his brand of politics, not his opposition.



But, yeah, keep telling the lie.
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posted on Mar, 5 2016 @ 09:35 AM
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a reply to: CB328




There is a lot of truth to this article. Trump voters, the Tea Party and other barbarians on the right want the "right" to be destructive, obnoxious, selfish, immature, asses and they're tired of people trying to make them be civilized.


That was one of the most 'uncilivilized' posts I have seen in a awhile.

Filled with hatred,obnoxious 'liberal' superiority complex.

If I had a nickle every time left wingers told us how civilized they supposedly was.

The national debt would be paid off, and in the black.



posted on Mar, 5 2016 @ 09:38 AM
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a reply to: WeDemBoyz

That was no lie.

Democratic socialism is fascism.

It basically means whatever the mob wants. They get to vote themselves whenever they want it.

Of course that OLIGARCHY that runs the state by proxy for the 'people'.

Will be making more than the people. and Living better than the people.




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