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originally posted by: TerryDon79
originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: TerryDon79
The difference is I don't pretend mine is nothing other than a faith
Based on a great deal of scientific evidence that proves design.
Scientific evidence? Oh, you mean shapes? Yeah, THATS proof lol.
As for science having no proof? Go read a book.
originally posted by: 5StarOracle
a reply to: GreenGunther
That is scientifically false...
because only a mature hen has the material required to construct the egg shell itself...
So the chicken came before the egg and not only was the Hen a prerequisite so was a Rooster... And neither of them could come before the egg... period...
I think the answer is in DNA. All life on earth right now is related in DNA. Even grass is related to us and as we look at chimps and work our way back the one fundamental connection is DNA.
The less likely life looks to be similar the less DNA is related, but there is always a relationship. This basically suggested all life has a common past of some kind.
If we go back 5 million years we can say chimps and humans were the same species, if we go back 300 million years we might be able to say a grape vine and humans were the same species.
It seems you are stuck on "which came first, the chicken or the egg". While the logical answer is there was one day an egg which contained a chicken that was to genetically different that it could not interbreed with the vast majority of the species which preceded it.
originally posted by: 5StarOracle
a reply to: TerryDon79
Hello personal attacker I see you are still here to falsely accuse me and continue to harass me while offering nothing of substance...
No surprise there...incidentally you may be living proof of evolution the chicken brain you possess is rather fascinating...
originally posted by: Xtrozero
I think the answer is in DNA.
So if “junk DNA” is really active and functional DNA, how come scientists have been so wrong and did not know this before? The reason is the Darwin Conspiracy. The Darwin Conspiracy fabricated the phony “junk DNA” idea in order to hide the fact that human DNA is very different from ape DNA. Atheists desperately need 98% of human DNA to be junk or else “ape to human evolution” gets demolished for reasons we will explain below.
These two discoveries proved “ape to human evolution” was impossible because the DNA of apes and humans are so different that the discrepancies could not be accounted for by evolution. The DNA differences contradicted “ape to human evolution.” This means that as early as the 1960's, DNA tests proved Darwin was wrong.
In 1972, the Darwin Conspiracy temporarily saved “ape to human evolution” theory from extinction by fabricating the phony concept of “junk DNA.” Faced with the fact that 98% of ape DNA is vastly different from human DNA, the Darwin Conspiracy very cleverly decided to label that 98% of the DNA as “junk DNA” and therefore the ape to human DNA differences had no relevance. The Darwin Conspiracy is insidious and very clever and always mixes truth with their lies so that their lies are more believable.
Aren't the atheists clever? By creating the baloney about “junk DNA,” the Darwin Conspiracy was able to successfully neutralize the fact that 98% of ape and human DNA are not similar and this kept the creationists from using those DNA differences as ammunition to attack “ape to human evolution.” So the next time any Darwinian tells you “the genetic matter of apes and humans are 99% identical,” you know this is a Darwin Conspiracy lie.
THE SCIENCE OF GENETICS EXPOSES THE "99% IDENTICAL" CLAIM IS A LIE
“For years Darwinists touted “junk DNA” as not just any evidence but powerful, practically irrefutable evidence for the Darwinian hypothesis. ID proponents disagreed and argued that the evidence would ultimately demonstrate function. Not only did both hypotheses make testable predictions, the Darwinist prediction turned out to be false and the ID prediction turned out to be confirmed.”
The ID position has now been largely vindicated and the Darwinist position debunked.
That is why Darwinians concocted the phoney concept of “junk DNA.” By claiming that human and ape DNA is “98% junk DNA,” they could ignore as much as 98% of the DNA that did not match up by claiming it did not count because it was junk. The science of genetics has recently made major discoveries that refute “ape to human evolution” and prove Darwin was wrong – because of this, atheists are on the warpath and there is currently a huge battle being fought over whether there really is “junk DNA.”
For decades, atheists have claimed that the genetic matter of apes and humans are 99% identical. But here is the secret – when atheists make the “99% identical” claim, they are only referring to "encoding DNA" which is a mere 2% of human DNA – they are not including the other 98% because they have labeled that as “junk DNA.” If you include “junk DNA,” then ape and human DNA are only 30% similar or identical.
The huge problem atheists are faced with is the fact that most parts of human “junk DNA” is not at all similar to ape “junk DNA.” Therefore, if “junk DNA” has function, then evolution theory is refuted because it simply cannot explain the vast differences between ape and human “junk DNA.” The differences are so great that it is impossible for humans to have evolved from apes, just as it is impossible to make a Ferrari from the parts of a Volkswagen.
DNA tests prove Darwin Was Wrong
...Jonathan Wells exposes their claim as an anti-scientific myth that ignores the evidence, relies on illegitimate theological speculations, and impedes biomedical research. In The Myth of Junk DNA, biologist Jonathan Wells exposes their claim as an anti-scientific myth that ignores the evidence, relies on illegitimate theological speculations, and impedes biomedical research.
Far from consisting mainly of junk, the genome is increasingly revealing itself to be a multidimensional, integrated system in which non-protein-coding DNA performs a wide variety of essential biological functions. If anything, the genome actually provides evidence for intelligent design, not against it. After reading this book, your view of the genome—and of the people who claim to represent science while they misrepresent the evidence—will never be the same again.
The Myth of Junk DNA
Reptiles preceded birds, but it's clear that feathers came from reptilian scales
The process will be slow, but eventually you will have chickens from whatever came before chickens.
But let a domesticated pig free into they wild and they become feral really quickly. If I remember correctly they regrow tusks in about the 3 weeks, the spickey fur returns etc. This is due to epigenetics.