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Healthcare Reform to Make America Great Again

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posted on Mar, 3 2016 @ 12:22 PM
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Great News if it can be done.

Bad news is the entire healthcare and pharmaceutical industry will be gunning for Trump or anyone else who even brings this topic into daylight.


No plan, including single payer or "private insurance for all" will ever work because the healthcare providers can charge whatever they want for their services partially based on the recipients ability to pay or what they can get from insurance companies or government programs. Healthcare costs that are not transparent will continually rise. The Healthcare Industrial Complex has went to great lengths and spend Billions of dollars to make sure the WE never talk about "Transparent Public Pricing" of non emergency medical procedures and tests.

Shopping for doctors, tests, imaging, and procedures should be as simple as reserving a trip on Priceline or similar website. Everything has a code, you can put that code into the search engine and get results by price of every provider within X number of miles of your choosing. Transparent pricing spurs competition and innovation. Look at Lasik surgery, it gets better every year, the technology and quality rises, and the costs drop. Why, because they have posted pricing and compete against one another in a transparent marketplace.

Shopping for any doctor, any specialist, any test, any imaging, any procedure by code, making it as easy as reserving a flight or hotel with transparent pricing is "The Key" to fixing healthcare costs in this country once and for all.


Trump appears to have cracked the egg. Watch for the wrath of Healthcare and Pharmaceutical companies coming.


www.donaldjtrump.com...




We will work with Congress to make sure we have a series of reforms ready for implementation that follow free market principles and that will restore economic freedom and certainty to everyone in this country. By following free market principles and working together to create sound public policy that will broaden healthcare access, make healthcare more affordable and improve the quality of the care available to all Americans.

Congress must act. Our elected representatives in the House and Senate must:

Completely repeal Obamacare. Our elected representatives must eliminate the individual mandate. No person should be required to buy insurance unless he or she wants to.

Modify existing law that inhibits the sale of health insurance across state lines. As long as the plan purchased complies with state requirements, any vendor ought to be able to offer insurance in any state. By allowing full competition in this market, insurance costs will go down and consumer satisfaction will go up.



edit on Sat Mar 5 2016 by DontTreadOnMe because: trimmed overly long quote IMPORTANT: Using Content From Other Websites on ATS




posted on Mar, 3 2016 @ 12:30 PM
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The only thing great in america will be the insurance companies, the medical industry and the prison industry, and the banking and financial industry.

The only great things in america are the one's mentioned above, the one's that produce nothing in return for your labor and your inevitable health issues and legal pitfalls.

America won't be great again until it looks after those who are the weakest members of it's citizenry.

Most everyone is guilty for the crimes committed against everything they consider to be of relatively little or no importance compared to their great, big, fat, narcissistic selves.

Grow a brain.



posted on Mar, 3 2016 @ 12:32 PM
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Allowing consumers access to imported, safe and dependable drugs from overseas will bring more options to consumers.


This is the part that gets me, Trump has been all about keeping jobs in America to "make it great again", yet his health insurance plan pretty much gives a finger to that notion by allowing Americans to buy drugs from overseas.

Just to be clear, I don't think it's a bad idea by any means, but it seems to kinda contradict his entire platform.



posted on Mar, 3 2016 @ 12:34 PM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1


Allowing consumers access to imported, safe and dependable drugs from overseas will bring more options to consumers.


This is the part that gets me, Trump has been all about keeping jobs in America to "make it great again", yet his health insurance plan pretty much gives a finger to that notion by allowing Americans to buy drugs from overseas.

Just to be clear, I don't think it's a bad idea by any means, but it seems to kinda contradict his entire platform.


Many drugs are produced in India and are safe and reliable. Putting the Pharmaceutical juggernauts in direct competition with their suppliers for the benefit of the people is a great thing.



posted on Mar, 3 2016 @ 12:36 PM
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a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Also, I don't like Trump.

I think he is way too much of a Progressive Authoritarian.

I have to give credit where credit is due on THIS plan though. This is what we have needed for decades.



posted on Mar, 3 2016 @ 12:41 PM
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originally posted by: MyHappyDogShiner


Grow a brain.


Comments like this are what is ruining ATS.

As far as the OP.

I agree it COULD be the way to go, however I have given up putting any faith in ANYTHING a politician promises.

I hope I am proven wrong, I have grown beyond cynical.



posted on Mar, 3 2016 @ 12:41 PM
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a reply to: infolurker

I agree it's a great thing for the pharmaceutical companies to have competition, but in the end if people buy drugs for cheaper overseas, what's the difference between that and companies outsourcing overseas? It puts people out of jobs in either case. That's been one of the biggest parts of Trump's campaign so far, bringing and keeping jobs in America.
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posted on Mar, 3 2016 @ 12:45 PM
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Bring the jobs from other countries back to the U.S. (pharmaceuticals) and give some people their middle class level jobs back.

Make America a more isolationist country again, like when it was great once.

One of those isolationist traits was having corporations on a short leash and ending their charter when their working toward the public good was no longer needed.

Insurance companies do not serve to enhance the public welfare, they take advantage of the misfortunes of the public for profit and exploit the fiat money, debt based system, which, by the way, was another thing America was founded to get away from....

Study history before it is too late.

America was founded to get away from the exact things America has become.



posted on Mar, 3 2016 @ 12:48 PM
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a reply to: infolurker

Dream on.



posted on Mar, 3 2016 @ 12:49 PM
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a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Kind of a dual edged sword I admit ... kind of.

Most drugs manufactured and sold in the US are already foreign sourced. I think (not 100% sure) that most US based jobs are Corporate and Marketing.

A little known secret is that the Pharmaceutical industry has a higher profit margin than even Banking! They rape the consumer.

www.bbc.com...



posted on Mar, 3 2016 @ 01:13 PM
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a reply to: stosh64

Sticks and stones....



posted on Mar, 3 2016 @ 01:26 PM
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I can't disagree with anything there except Medicaid. Medicaid needs to go away, permanently and fully. Medicare at least has been (allegedly) funded by its recipients who have worked their lives while paying into it... Medicaid, however, is little more than socialist horsecrap that has no place in any capitalist society.



posted on Mar, 3 2016 @ 01:55 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6


Medicaid, however, is little more than socialist horsecrap that has no place in any capitalist society.


Oh poor you, having to help fund the destitute and sick.

Jesus would be so sad for you.



posted on Mar, 3 2016 @ 02:49 PM
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a reply to: infolurker

One problem. The pharmas are multi-national. They do most of the R&D in the US because we have patent protections. In other countries, those protections are stripped allowing anyone to manufacture after the hard work of development has been done meaning huge a loss in investment.

Also, there may be cheaper drugs in other countries, but often that's because the approval process in less stringent. Getting a product through FDA approval is expensive and time consuming and makes a product more expensive.

So I'm not sure how this happens without removal or lessening of the current regulatory load.



posted on Mar, 3 2016 @ 02:51 PM
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originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: burdman30ott6


Medicaid, however, is little more than socialist horsecrap that has no place in any capitalist society.


Oh poor you, having to help fund the destitute and sick.

Jesus would be so sad for you.


Jesus wants me to pay for poor and destitute out of my free choice, not because I am compelled to. Surely you ought to know there is no compulsion in faith? Well, there is no compulsion in charity, either. If it's forced, it's not charity but something else entirely.



posted on Mar, 3 2016 @ 02:52 PM
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Those that despise social safety nets area typically (and suspiciously) silent when hardship befalls them and they are in need those services...

Hmmm...



posted on Mar, 3 2016 @ 02:53 PM
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originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Also, I don't like Trump.

I think he is way too much of a Progressive Authoritarian.

I have to give credit where credit is due on THIS plan though. This is what we have needed for decades.


so progressive, all his supporters are Prius driving, gay marriage loving, Obama loving west coast commies!



posted on Mar, 3 2016 @ 02:53 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

And based on what I've read? He's no doubt pretty sad so many people choose not to do so out of their free well.



posted on Mar, 3 2016 @ 02:54 PM
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So we can get cheaper drugs from India, but isn't it part of Trump's plan to impose higher taxes on products that do not come from US manufacturers?

Wouldn't this be a major flaw in Trump's programs?



posted on Mar, 3 2016 @ 02:59 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: burdman30ott6


Medicaid, however, is little more than socialist horsecrap that has no place in any capitalist society.


Oh poor you, having to help fund the destitute and sick.

Jesus would be so sad for you.


Jesus wants me to pay for poor and destitute out of my free choice, not because I am compelled to. Surely you ought to know there is no compulsion in faith? Well, there is no compulsion in charity, either. If it's forced, it's not charity but something else entirely.



And Jesus, looking at him, loved him, and said to him, “You lack one thing: go, sell all that you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.”


Doesn't sound much like free choice to me.



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