Clinton won the Presidency today and I am sad.

a reply to: ManFromEurope

I agree some people do need to 'educate' themselves.

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: sligtlyskeptical

Vote for Bernie! He'll get rid of Obamacare, but he'll work to have a TRUE universal healthcare system, like they have in all the other first world countries.

(We gotta vote the sitting Congress out as well though, to make that happen.)

Please do not view this as an assault on you, kaylaluv. It is an assault on Bernie.

Yay! Free everything!

Let's all follow the government unicorn, catching the Skittles that settle out of the rainbow issuing from it's butt!
In a government cup, of course.

a reply to: Sublimecraft

We already know that this was actually her issue way before Obama. Do you guys really not remember? Her decisions will refine and improve Affordable Care.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Krazysh0t

IS that the Same Europe with the debt crisis because they are under the delusion the state exists to provide for the material WANTS of the masses.

Anyone with half a brain wouldn't.

Basic healthcare is a material want of the masses?

a reply to: neo96

She looks like the actress Linda Hamilton.

On topic.... she should know.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

It's a GD corporate product like anything else.

IT's not a freggin right.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: ManFromEurope

I agree some people do need to 'educate' themselves.

And we start with the Dumbarse memes.

Denmark is only one country in Europe anyway and that doesn't beguin to touch in the healthcare in Hong Kong, Singapore , New Zealand ect

a reply to: ManFromEurope

Are you saying that we should all just self insure ourselves and hope our expenses don't occur until we are old? Even if, how many people are actually going to hold on to that money instead of spending it?

I don't know what people are whining about other than the fact.

The absolute nerve they have to pay for it.

Although in the REAL WORLD.

Things like the EMTLA exist.

he Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA)[1] is an act of the United States Congress, passed in 1986 as part of the Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act (COBRA). It requires hospital Emergency Departments that accept payments from Medicare to provide an appropriate medical screening examination (MSE) to individuals seeking treatment for a medical condition, regardless of citizenship, legal status, or ability to pay. There are no reimbursement provisions. Participating hospitals may not transfer or discharge patients needing emergency treatment except with the informed consent or stabilization of the patient or when their condition requires transfer to a hospital better equipped to administer the treatment.[1]

en.wikipedia.org...

Back to FALSE 'outrage'.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Krazysh0t

It's a GD corporate product like anything else.

IT's not a freggin right.

Who says?

What's to water and oxygen then are not rights but corporate products?

Who makes the distinction?

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Krazysh0t

It's a GD corporate product like anything else.

IT's not a freggin right.

Why not? What's wrong with caring for the sick because they need it and not because they can afford it?

a reply to: crazyewok

It is eh?

Denmark has a universal public health system paid largely from taxation with local municipalities delivering health care services in the same way as other Scandinavian countries

en.wikipedia.org...

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Like Europe where they have the VAT, and pay over 60% of their incomes to the state.

I don't care what OTHER countries do.

I guess some people seem to have forgotten why this country was created to begin with.

Basically because we had enough European snip.

erm in britain our income tax is %20, highest rate %45 for those lucky enough to earn over £150'000 a year. VAT is %20, where did you get your figures?

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: crazyewok

It is eh?

Denmark has a universal public health system paid largely from taxation with local municipalities delivering health care services in the same way as other Scandinavian countries

en.wikipedia.org...

Cool but that's Denmark.

I don't live in Denmark.

There are more country's in the world than just the USA and Denmark.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Krazysh0t

It's a GD corporate product like anything else.

IT's not a freggin right.

Why not? What's wrong with caring for the sick because they need it and not because they can afford it?

Why don't you read the EMTLA ?

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Krazysh0t

It's a GD corporate product like anything else.

IT's not a freggin right.

Who says?

What's to water and oxygen then are not rights but corporate products?

Who makes the distinction?

The STATE already controls that under the Clean Air Act, and does a snip poor job.

Not about to hand over my healthcare to them.

I do so enjoy watching Neo play devils advocate. I find it hard to believe he takes pride in the fact he has to pay for basic quality of life necessities.

Keep worshipping that golden cow bro, don't let the little humans get in the way of your Corporate Utopia.

originally posted by: neo96

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Krazysh0t

It's a GD corporate product like anything else.

IT's not a freggin right.

Why not? What's wrong with caring for the sick because they need it and not because they can afford it?

Why don't you read the EMTLA ?

How does the EMTLA cover basic health care when it applies to emergencies only? Plus you just got done saying we need to dismantle Medicare, so how exactly would the EMTLA work without that? You are being hypocritical right now.

originally posted by: Esoterotica
I do so enjoy watching Neo play devils advocate. I find it hard to believe he takes pride in the fact he has to pay for basic quality of life necessities.

Keep worshipping that golden cow bro, don't let the little humans get in the way of your Corporate Utopia.

Sure don't worship at the alter of statolatry now do I?

Unlike others that want that super duper 'wonderful' universal healthcare.

Without a thought or care in the world. How it would REALLY be 'paid' for.

a reply to: butcherguy

But it's not free, and he never claimed it would be free. What he has claimed is that we can spend less on healthcare, and everyone can have affordable access to it. You know, like those other countries with universal healthcare who spend way less on healthcare than the U.S. does.

www.pbs.org...

What we have done in the past hasn't worked. What we are doing now isn't working much better.

There IS a better way.