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originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: theySeeme
I've got about 25 years of programming experience with 15+ in web development. I also have substantial administration experience (*nix & Windows) and a high degree of familiarity with web server and database administration and optimization.
That you think a site of the size of ATS could be hosted for $15-25 a month tells me that you're either grossly underestimating the traffic or simply have no idea what you're talking about. I don't know you and I can't say which it is.
That said, it's not simply a matter of hosting costs either — running a website the size of ATS is a full-time job for at least one person. I don't know about you but I sure as hell wouldn't volunteer that amount of time and why should I? Then there are legitimate expenses for doing business like accounting or the occasional legal fees which probably aren't large but compared to 0, what's reasonable?
I would be perfectly happy with the answer being "nothing, nowhere, we just feel it is time to cash in in all the work we have done".
originally posted by: TrueAmerican
Is that what you want? No ATS? I sure don't want that.
While things are in transition and revenue streams are figured out, the very least you can do RIGHT NOW to help is to disable any ad-blocking software. The management has said many times that this is critical to help finance the tremendous costs of running this great site. It is big and takes a lot of resources.
No, let me repeat that.
THIS SITE IS BIG AND IT TAKES A LOT OF RESOURCES TO KEEP RUNNING.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? DO YOU?
Then stop what you are doing, RIGHT NOW, and disable your ad blocking software. Simply click "Disable ad-blocking on abovetopsecret.com"
There. Now, Don't you feel better? You did your little part. And even though that may still not be enough in the long run, at least you did that. And it would also help to actually CLICK on an ad that interests you either once in a while and go check it out.
I placed this in this forum so that non-members will see this as well. Considering that some 75% or more of hits (according to management) are from non-logged in members or non-members, it would seem prudent to do so. Consider it Education of the masses that Media costs money. Nothing is free forever. Except maybe air. And who knows how long that will last either.
And to all you takers out there, yeah the ones that always just read and never or hardly ever start threads, how about considering contributing a thread once in a while? It takes that too to keep this site running. Or are you just going to keep taking and taking until there is nothing left to take? New trees have to be planted or the forest will die. So help. HELP, dammit. Stop just reading, and actually go out and get an interesting topic and bring it here, or write one yourself. Let's keep this site alive. At least, that's the way I feel. It is worth it.
originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: theySeeme
but the site would be awful and slow with the amount of users. You'd end up driving people away with that strategy.
And you wouldn't have the level of control you'd want to have.
No to do things the right way you need to spend money on hosting and bandwidth.
originally posted by: destination now
a reply to: whyamIhere
Thanks. I guess when you're feeling a bit crappy anyway and you get a bunch of people laying into you...and then the thread gets closed so you don't even get a chance to reply, it's a bit off putting.
But at the same time I am very opinionated, so it takes a lot to shut me up totally
originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
a reply to: TrueAmerican
I seldom see ads on this site and have never used an ad blocker. I don't understand the need to use one in the first place.
originally posted by: theySeeme
40 million hits per day on a website like this could be hosted on a $10 VPS (virtual private server) with like 1gb of RAM