posted on Aug, 14 2016 @ 11:25 PM
a reply to:
spaceman42
The Tu-4 Bull is a Soviet reverse-engineered B-29. The J-11 is a copy of the Su-27 Flanker.
Tu-4:
The Soviets got their hands on three B-29's in 1944. (An additional B-29 crashed) The crews had to divert to emergency landings in Vladivostok after
bombing raids in Manchuria. The Soviets were considered "neutral" in the war with Japan in 1944, but because the Americans and Soviets were allies,
the crews assumed it would be safe to land their stricken aircraft there.
Unfortunately, at least some of the crews were held in camps for 12 months.
Despite demands for the return of the B-29's they were flown to Moscow. Tupolev Design Bureau took one completely apart, one was used for flight
testing and the third was left intact for comparison.
It is a bolt-for-bolt, rivet-for-rivet clone of the B-29. The Tupolev Tu-4 became the backbone of the Soviet Strategic bomber force. Cargo and
passenger variants were also made from the reversed engineered B-29. It was nicknamed "dar Bozhii" by the Russians (Gift from God).
When it debuted in 1947 the Americans were less than impressed, to put it mildly.
J-11:
The J-11 is less of a bald-faced rip off.
The Chinese made a deal with cash-strapped Russia to purchase over 200 Su-27 "Kits" for assembly in China. But...shocker...China cancelled delivery
after they had enough to reverse-engineer it and "improve it". Sukhoi and the Russians weren't happy about it, but didn't make a huge stink about it
until the Chinese started trying to sell the J-11 to international customers in direct competition with the Russian built Su-27/30/33. It didn't help
when it was discovered that the Chinese acquired a more advanced version of the jet from Ukraine to help with the Chinese "Indigenous Upgrades".