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posted on Mar, 1 2016 @ 11:52 PM
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a reply to: ErrorErrorError

The wall must be build and congress doesnt matter as the budget will come from Mexico anyways




posted on Mar, 1 2016 @ 11:53 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
The only difference between a socialist and a progressive is that a socialist makes you say, "Thank you" after they take your money.


I was left wih a sick joke about socialists from a cycle
over thirty years ago. It holds true more today than ever...
This dissident gets his legs broken off camera. After he
shows up for some award ceremony, he gets a new set of
crutches. The commentator psyops us that he should
really be grateful for the gift from the people. I love it.



posted on Mar, 1 2016 @ 11:59 PM
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a reply to: Indigent

just make every deportee have to pay 2000 dollars to be deported otherwise let them rot in a jail cell that may fund it ,i mean if obama had a phone and a pen sure trump can try to pass a few shady EA to fund the wall



posted on Mar, 2 2016 @ 12:06 AM
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originally posted by: Lucidparadox

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Kali74
Who knew we had so many Conservative ATSer's so hot for Hillary...

It's that authoritarian pucker of her mouth isn't it?


It's going to be fun to see the Bernie fans defend her during the general election.


Whats really going to b efunny is IF sanders tell his supporters to write in instead for him.



As a democrat.. and a Hillary supporter.. that would be my... and our countries worst nightmare.

If Bernie tells ppl to write him in....

Trump will win the presidency and that would be the end of our country


What should be obvious to the members of this site, just from
our tone; is [that] no matter who ends up at the top of the toilet
will surely flush it. I don't hate this business of watching the power-
ful do it to us anymore... what hurts is how powerless we have become.
If knowledge is power, where's the battery stashed?



posted on Mar, 2 2016 @ 12:23 AM
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originally posted by: reldra
As for the democrats, Clinton is about to be served in regard to the emails. The company that Biden employs for political runs is local to me. I am told they expect Clinton to be served and Biden to begin campaigning out in the open.

If this is indeed a news blurb of any accuracy, our prayers of
a just system (in total disregard of a corrupt media) are answered.

I however expect nothing to assail Hillary Clinton's campaign,
because we aren't as important as American citizens in our will
as the world's elites are with theirs. Sucks, but it's true.



posted on Mar, 2 2016 @ 12:43 AM
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a reply to: derfreebie
After 8 plus years, I was too late to apologize for a double
post. Wow, and in light of something so trivial as the
selection of our next insignificant puppet. Somehow cool.
Still sorry Mods, pare as appropriate.



posted on Mar, 2 2016 @ 01:52 AM
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a reply to: Lucidparadox

You missed a point when talking about what you do and do not support, I believe.

"I DO support the corruption of our Government" would be it. Because that's what voting for Hillary means. No two ways about it. She is a criminal, liar, and someone who has repeatedly been proven to have either awful or easily influenced judgement.

Sadly, it is likely too late to edit your post to include.

Now, allow me to rebut each of your points individually.


1. Of the 3 potential candidates Hillary has the most experience in high level politics.


Right, allow me to correct that incorrect statement. Of course, you may say that because you only consider the Senate and/or First Lady "high level politics", but oh well.

Sanders:
Senator, United States Senate, 2006-present
Representative, United States House of Representatives, 1990-2006
Mayor, City of Burlington, 1981-1989
Candidate, United States House of Representatives, 1988
Candidate, Governor of Vermont, 1972, 1976, 1986
Candidate, United States Senate, 1972, 1974

Clinton:
United States Secretary of State, 2009-2013
Sworn In, United States Secretary of State, January 21, 2009
Senator, United States Senate, 2001-2009
Candidate, United States President, 2008
First Lady, President Bill Clinton, 1993-2001
First Lady, State of Arkansas, 1979-1981, 1983-1992

Clinton is by no means more experienced than Sanders. Obviously, both of them have more than Trump. She has slightly more time in the Senate, but to my knowledge also has a less than stellar record.


2. She is not Donald Trump.


Weak and/or Invalid argument. There are five other candidates who are not Donald Trump.


3. Even though her husband Bill was a president for 2 terms.. she was a major part of the operation and from my comparatively short life experience the 90s were incredible.. so having the Clinton's back would be nice for the economy and foreign policy.


The 90s were responsible for several issues that still badly hurt America to this day. The prison system reform (which the Clintons were heavily involved with) is one of the major reasons why America as it stands has 500,000 more inmates than even China, despite having less than 1/3rd its population.
It also had the establishment of NAFTA (signed by Bill Clinton) which was a key player in destroying the US middle class.


4. She shares many of the same ideals as Bernie Sanders only broken down into short term and achievable goals. Not as drastic as Sanders. Achievable goals here is the key, and the ability to communicate them in a way that makes it seem like everyone benefits ie: being a politician.


She says she shares many of the same ideals as Bernie Sanders. She's lying. She only started saying that after he essentially forced her to. I'm curious, has she decided to release those Goldmann Sachs speeches yet?
Short-term is awful. Short-term is destroying our planet.
Do you know what happens when you only have someone who will fight for what is "achievable", rather than what is "the best result?"
You suddenly find that you get even less than what was originally thought "achievable" because the opposition drags you towards 0% whether you're aiming for 50% or 100%.


5. Leaders need to show the ability to learn.. grow.. and change. Hillary has changed her stances on issues as the times have changed. This shows she isn't stubborn and is open minded to new ideas.


Actually, she has changed her stances on issues as it has become politically expedient and profitable to do so. There is a reason no one trusts her to actually follow through with what she promises, even less than you would typically trust a politician.


6. The whole email thing is stupid.. it doesn't matter. When she is President she will have the most secure email in the world provided by the secret service and the DoD, it is a non issue. If anything it was a sin of omission.


No, it's not stupid. Yes, it does matter.
She had a secure email provided, to my knowledge. She chose not to use it.
Any other person would currently be facing hefty charges for doing what Clinton has done. Ask any of the ATS members who have held security clearances.


7. Hillary is strong. She stands up there while being called a bitch.. a witch.. a wicked liar.. a hag etc. and she doesn't waver. Even though she doesn't have the support of our youth like Sanders does, she still believes in working with the younger generations to make life better for our future. She faces adversity head on and isnt afraid to speak her mind.


Once again, no. She says she believes in working with the younger generations to make life better for our future. Important distinction. I am not sure if she is wicked or a bitch, but she is most definitely a liar.
Trump is someone who isn't afraid to speak his mind.
So is Sanders.
Clinton... Clinton says what she think you will like. She says what she thinks will lead to the most personal gain. Her integrity is thinner than paper, and more brittle than graphite.


8. I think she has the perfect balance when it comes to her feelings towards military action. She doesn't want to build walls and nuke everyone.. nor does she want to be a doormat. She wants to take out anyone who threatens our safety.. and build relationships through diplomacy.


Ah, Hillary and the military.
Well, she says that, but...
How is Libya doing recently?
I'd suggest looking into that.


9. She values education, and also like sanders wants to severely reduce the cost of higher education by taxing our rich oppressors.


Her goal is worth than Sanders, 'nor can she be trusted to follow through with it. Our rich oppressors are her rich campaign contributors.
About those paid speeches, and that Super PAC...


10. The fact that she was able to handle the whole Bill and Monica thing the way she did, and remain strong, stand by her husband, and continue her political career shows incredible mental fortitude.


Ah, by ruining the lives and reputations of those whom accused her husband. Right.
Well, I guess mental fortitude could describe it. I was leaning more towards sociopathy, but what do I know.


11. She gets what she wants almost always. Real leaders get things done, by any means possible, she is a battering ram.


That might be true, but here is a very small and sad piece of information. What she wants isn't good for the vast majority of Americans.
Also, we don't want someone who will get things done "by any means possible."
Do you know what that leads to?


12. Sometimes coyness, lying, and hiding your motives or intentions keeps you alive. Politics is a game, and she knows how to play and what strings to pull.


Not really. Perhaps in medieval time it was a "game." I would like to think we have moved past that. I'm also still failing to see why these are desirable characteristics in a presidential candidate.



posted on Mar, 2 2016 @ 02:09 AM
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I think it's obvious we haven't moved passed that.

House of Cards isn't far off at all from how real politics in this country actually operate.

Sanders would be out if his element in the chair of the POTUS.

That being said.. I support a Hillary/Bernie ticket 100%

They would be an excellent Tandem to be honest. Bernie as the dreamer.. as the inspiration..

Hillary as the do'er.. the execution..

Bernie is great, conservatives will just never buy into his "wolf". Hillary however can put that "Wolf" in sheep's clothing in a way Bernie cant.

I support a socialist agenda.. I just think we need to fool some of the GOP into following along.

No one from the other side can be bi-partisan with Sanders.. he gives no ground.



posted on Mar, 2 2016 @ 03:25 AM
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a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn

Brilliant post. Possibly one of the most accurate responses to one of the most delusional posts I've ever read.

My first instinct when reading how brilliant hillary us would be to put it down to shill and deny anyone could be so delusional. However you have provided a point by point response that hopefully will educate those who will be voting hillary.



posted on Mar, 2 2016 @ 03:32 AM
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Gotta love these photos hillary uses.

Covering all your bases

Talk about covering all your bases ethnicity wise. This woman is evil and will use every means to manipulate the people. She has and will change her values to best suit her election campaign.

It is really sad and shows us how delusional the people are voting for this criminal.



posted on Mar, 2 2016 @ 03:39 AM
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a reply to: InMyShell




This woman is evil and will use every means to manipulate the people. She has and will change her values to best suit her election campaign.

Values to fit the campaign. Campaign to fit the values...
A politician, then.
Isn't the idea to get people to think you're right? No matter what you say?
edit on 3/2/2016 by Phage because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 2 2016 @ 05:22 AM
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I have to say I am quite surprised by the apparent notion that last night was a great night for Trump. I think he did OK, but showed again that he can't possibly win the nomination.

He did not win 50% of any state.

He lost 4 states of the 11 and in 2 that he won it was by a razor thin margin.
He won 233 out of 595 delegates (39.1%) - a level not even close to being enough to avoid a brokered convention where he has no chance.
If you look at the delegate totals so far he is just 110 delegates ahead of Cruz (315 vs. 205)

If there is even a slight fall off in Trumps vote (and he is going to be hit hard over the next 2 weeks) he is not going to carry enough to get enough winner takes all states to achieve 50% of the delegates.

Then if there is ANY consolidation in the field, Trump is toast.

I think Trump had to do better than OK, and he failed. Last night, to me, was the beginning of the end for him. I think he knows it too - his speech was very subdued.

I have to say though, I was simply stunned at Cruz's speech. The man simply makes thing up and gives a silly little grin after each lie. Almost like he knows he's telling a whopping lie and is slightly embarrassed by it.
edit on 2/3/2016 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)

edit on 2/3/2016 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 2 2016 @ 05:43 AM
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originally posted by: Lucidparadox

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: Lucidparadox

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Kali74
Who knew we had so many Conservative ATSer's so hot for Hillary...

It's that authoritarian pucker of her mouth isn't it?


It's going to be fun to see the Bernie fans defend her during the general election.


Whats really going to b efunny is IF sanders tell his supporters to write in instead for him.


As a democrat.. and a Hillary supporter.. that would be my... and our countries worst nightmare.

If Bernie tells ppl to write him in....

Trump will win the presidency and that would be the end of our country


I have to ask... why support someone who is a criminal? (yes i know all poloticians are btw) Or a tleast someone who gives us a reasonable doubt to vote for her. I think ill go on twitter and start a Hashtag write in bernie today.


Here's why:

1. Of the 3 potential candidates Hillary has the most experience in high level politics.
2. She is not Donald Trump.
3. Even though her husband Bill was a president for 2 terms.. she was a major part of the operation and from my comparatively short life experience the 90s were incredible.. so having the Clinton's back would be nice for the economy and foreign policy.
4. She shares many of the same ideals as Bernie Sanders only broken down into short term and achievable goals. Not as drastic as Sanders. Achievable goals here is the key, and the ability to communicate them in a way that makes it seem like everyone benefits ie: being a politician.
5. Leaders need to show the ability to learn.. grow.. and change. Hillary has changed her stances on issues as the times have changed. This shows she isn't stubborn and is open minded to new ideas.
6. The whole email thing is stupid.. it doesn't matter. When she is President she will have the most secure email in the world provided by the secret service and the DoD, it is a non issue. If anything it was a sin of omission.
7. Hillary is strong. She stands up there while being called a bitch.. a witch.. a wicked liar.. a hag etc. and she doesn't waver. Even though she doesn't have the support of our youth like Sanders does, she still believes in working with the younger generations to make life better for our future. She faces adversity head on and isnt afraid to speak her mind.
8. I think she has the perfect balance when it comes to her feelings towards military action. She doesn't want to build walls and nuke everyone.. nor does she want to be a doormat. She wants to take out anyone who threatens our safety.. and build relationships through diplomacy.
9. She values education, and also like sanders wants to severely reduce the cost of higher education by taxing our rich oppressors.
10. The fact that she was able to handle the whole Bill and Monica thing the way she did, and remain strong, stand by her husband, and continue her political career shows incredible mental fortitude.
11. She gets what she wants almost always. Real leaders get things done, by any means possible, she is a battering ram.
12. Sometimes coyness, lying, and hiding your motives or intentions keeps you alive. Politics is a game, and she knows how to play and what strings to pull.

By the way I am actually Hillary's lowest percentage voter...

Im a 27 year old Caucasian male from Cleveland Ohio (just moved to Phoenix, AZ), 4-year degree.. some military exp.. high IQ, good job with a fortune 100 company (not rich by any means, probably lower middle, to middle middle class).

I support universal healthcare..

I DONT suport the complete legalization of Marijuana..

I DO support pro-choice initiatives..

Im 50/50 on gun control...

I DO support immigration, helping illegals get visas and become citizens, taking refugees..

I DO NOT support the death penalty..


I guess the answer to your question is, I just see eye to eye with her on most things


As a fellow 27 year old Caucasian I'm disgusted by your points.

& you don't support full legalization of marijuana? You lost all credibility with that one.

& nothing personal but Fortune 500 companies are the devil.

Quick Addendum: I recommend everyone look into Hillarys past as a republican campaigning for Reagan & subsequent role as a "New Democrat" i.e. Republican-lite. Anything she says is merely to make her look more "democrat" & not what she actually believes.
edit on 2-3-2016 by Esoterotica because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 2 2016 @ 05:52 AM
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a reply to: Domo1

Are you a hacker?

Hillary's delegate count is rigged.



posted on Mar, 2 2016 @ 06:19 AM
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originally posted by: muse7
The GOP is just a dumpster fire at this very moment. Its a carnival being led by a racist con artist.



Man, where does that leave the left and Clinton/The Bern?



posted on Mar, 2 2016 @ 06:23 AM
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a reply to: InMyShell

Well, it was not flawless. I still made a few minor mistakes. For instance, in this case:


She has slightly more time in the Senate, but to my knowledge also has a less than stellar record.


It is a wrong statement. Sanders has two years over her in terms of Senate time, however, Hillary has also spent four years as Secretary of State. What I should have said is:


She has slightly more time in office if you combine her Senate period with her Secretary of State period, but to my knowledge also has a less than stellar record in both of these positions.


Minor mistakes, as well as spelling errors that I am greatly irritated I failed to notice.
edit on 2/3/2016 by Eilasvaleleyn because: Reasons



posted on Mar, 2 2016 @ 06:25 AM
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a reply to: Wardaddy454

The Bern is currently trying to breathe life into a decrepit and rotting corpse.



posted on Mar, 2 2016 @ 06:28 AM
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a reply to: Lucidparadox

I assume you are responding to me, but I am having a hard time figuring out which points specifically you are trying to address. My apologies, but would you be capable of quoting the relevant statements above what you have written so I may more easily discern what it is that you are trying to say?



posted on Mar, 2 2016 @ 06:32 AM
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originally posted by: Lucidparadox

I support a socialist agenda.. I just think we need to fool some of the GOP into following along.

No one from the other side can be bi-partisan with Sanders.. he gives no ground.


That's obvious.

I have to wonder if all Hillary and Bernie supporters feel the same way, or are they also being fooled.



posted on Mar, 2 2016 @ 06:45 AM
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a reply to: Lucidparadox

Uh-huh. Keep dreaming.

Socialism is not good. Never will be good, and is against everything this country was founded upon. The only way to "fool" people into going along with it will be to "remove" them from society, forcibly.



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