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The Mysterious Horton Mine

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posted on Mar, 1 2016 @ 06:00 PM
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a reply to: Atsbhct

No, I don't believe in Trolls. The underworld is a mysterious place though. You can see where all those stories come from once you've been down there.

Are there any cavers on ATS who have any supernatural experiences to relate?

We worked a lot in the disused end of the mine with closed off areas and service tunnels for old machinery and huge conveyor belts. We had rules about being alone in certain parts, or not getting too far apart. There's always chips of salt dropping from the ceiling and walls so if you're quiet you can easily make yourself jump. I'm still talking about mines but I'd really like to see some natural caves. I really wouldn't go alone though. Scaredy.
edit on 1-3-2016 by Tulpa because: getting sloppy




posted on Mar, 1 2016 @ 06:55 PM
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Im a mine engineer and responsible for our ventilation system. I would say that if that vent tube was swinging as well, then it would be a blast of air coming theough, possibly from a fresh air or exhaust raise. Our vent system is a push and pull system as well as fan fed air.
A push and pull system uses natural air flow to pull good air in and push the bad air out.(exhaust). Natural flow could blow the chains around...but it would be all of them not just a select few.
If its not a hoax -someone off camera swinging a few chains - then it is definitely an odd occurrence.

One thing i will say though, never enter an abandoned mine. 1st world Mines are meticulously maintained to adhere to the ministry standards. Gas pockets build up in these places. As you could see, he was in the main drift of the mine and there was vent tube hanging. That means there was originaly bad air flow....even when there was air being blown into the mine. As well, that mine is being held open by strapping. Strapping isnt rated to support on its own a 5x5 meter drift. Usually screen is applied in addition to the strapping.
That strapping was rusted out by the looks of it and clearly not in any condition to safely rely on.
Just my safety Advise.



posted on Mar, 1 2016 @ 07:01 PM
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a reply to: Macenroe82

Thanks for the technical expertise.

So the chains aren't necessarily wind. Would a road going over the mine shaft cause just one to swing?



posted on Mar, 1 2016 @ 08:04 PM
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I applied to work there in the late 1980s.

That tunnel was a ore haulage way and not part of the older horton mine but was on the horton mine claim.

By the way there are no record of any one being killed in ether the horton mine or Victorine mine.

The mine closed around 2002 and is owned by Newgold inc and is not a abandoned mine and the tunnel is posted no trespassing.
www.newgold.com...



posted on Mar, 1 2016 @ 08:40 PM
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That chain swinging was definitely strange and deliberate. Not wind. It was done deliberately to get the guy's attention and maybe meant to scare him out.
The second video was super freaky lol.. That would have been creepy to be there.



posted on Mar, 1 2016 @ 08:41 PM
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I'm a chicken with that cave/mine stuff.

But I caught a bit of a tv show called ghost mine.

Seems like it was tapped out that way. The usual ghost hunter stuff, fwiw.



posted on Mar, 1 2016 @ 09:14 PM
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a reply to: Atsbhct

I would hope no one would build a haul road over a drift thats so close to surface.
If it was a haul truck causing the couple chains to swing like that, we would have also seen an enormous amount of dust and possibly the back ( the "back" is a mining term for the roof of a drift) caving in. It would take a considerable amount of energy on surface to make those chains swing like that.
I know it wasnt seismic related, because the camera guy would have ran in terror at the sound of the ground releasing pressure. Not to mention he would have been knocked flat on his arse lol.



posted on Mar, 1 2016 @ 10:05 PM
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a reply to: Macenroe82

I'm thinking again that all of the chains would swing.

In my mind, it's either hoax or paranormal, or, is there an off chance someone would be squatting in an old mine?



posted on Mar, 1 2016 @ 10:06 PM
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a reply to: ANNED

Did you ever hear of anyone being kicked out for trespassing or squatting?



posted on Mar, 2 2016 @ 02:42 AM
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Interesting thread, OP,

I do not want to come off as a paranormal denier (in fact, I've experienced quite a bit of strangeness in my time, and actually LIVE in a house that has some - if you could call it that - mildly restless spirit who whas murdered here. if there's interest I could make a posting about it here, PM me if you'd like to know more)...

Ok, beyond that preface... it certainly is an interesting set of footage; however, though I don't doubt that the guy exploring the caves experienced something genuinely spooky (being a dank, dark hole in the ground), I feel that there are a few points that might need a bit of exploration. Be warned - some reading is ahead...

Firstly, in the first video clip, with the swinging chain. The length of the chain says to me that it would hold momentum for a decent amount of time. One can see it in how far the chain travels from side to side without losing much distance from left to right on each swing. To me (and I'm no physicist, so I could be wrong), this, along with the fact that the video skips just before that, to where he's looking back out of the cave, gives the possibility that he MIGHT have set the chain to swing before the shots, and turned around shortly thereafter.

Secondly (and I'm quoting from info from the OP, while watching the second video), with regards to the eerie sounds observed. Sound waves travel faster through denser mediums than less dense. This is why Whales can communicate over hundreds, of not thousands of kilometers - water is denser than air, and therefore conducts sound waves much better. Solid rock, being MUCH more dense than air or even water, could conduct sound waves much more efficiently; these sounds could potentially have come from a fair distance off. I'm not familliar with the area (I'm fifteen thousand miles and the atlantic ocean away) so I can't speculate on any potential sources of the sounds.

That being said though, and watching the second clip while typing the above paragraph, the sounds, in my opinion are too loud and clear to have been transmitted through the rock. I've left the above info in any case just for reference though. However, I believe that the sounds are either a fabrication (an audio clip played from a distance away in the shaft), or genuine. I'm still open to either possibility, though, based on the filmographer's reaction (and my own personal experiences), I'm leaning towards it being something real and tangible.



posted on Mar, 2 2016 @ 10:25 AM
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I think we're on the same page regarding the explorers experience.

I wouldn't hold being a skeptic against anyone, that's for sure. I honestly think that this was truly paranormal, or he faked it.



posted on Mar, 5 2016 @ 10:27 AM
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I don't go with the vibration explanation for the chain swinging, and if someone had set it swinging it would have stopped while he was filming it after an easily observable decline in the angle of swing.

To me that voice sounded female. It sounded like it was making some sort of announcement or issuing instructions, and there were 3 tones at the end. Maybe some attention-getting notification/alert sound, and the voice was a supervisor or official saying something over an intercom or tannoy or PA system
If it only closed in 2002 that's recent enough for such technology, and although I don't know much about mining it seems plausible that such a system might have been used.
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posted on Mar, 5 2016 @ 02:41 PM
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originally posted by: intergalactic fire
sounded like radio chatter no? or even music.
He should have gone further, like in real movies.

Are there other cave or mine complexes in the area? maybe connections or vent shafts?


There is another mine that was owned by the same company as this one, I have heard different figures but anywhere from 400 yards upslope to 2 miles .

As for the "radio" like sounds, it could actually be an intercom/PA system that still has a connection to the other mine which is still being worked. That may be what was heard.



posted on Mar, 6 2016 @ 02:37 AM
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The noise sounded like what it was, a PA or radio, these are mines, he's not the only person in them and some are still at work in various different fields. As for the swinging single chain, well the whole video of the video was to instil a creep out vibe so what better than to swing a chain and start shooting again, you don't see that chain until he turns around.

Not buying it but that said I'd never venture in to parts of an abandoned mine by myself for safety reasons and of course you don't know who or what will be in there, imagine turning a corner to find a mountain lion or some such, on your own is just stupid..



posted on Mar, 8 2016 @ 06:50 PM
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a reply to: Atsbhct

His claim would have been somewhat more credible if he hadn't conveniently panned the camera away and then back, just "happening" to catch the moving chain already in motion. My initial reaction was that he did that on purpose to give a friend the opportunity to jiggle the chain.



posted on Mar, 8 2016 @ 08:11 PM
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a reply to: CharlestonChew

I lean towards the same explanation. I'm surprised the explorer didn't get a taste for the views and keep doing it.



posted on Mar, 8 2016 @ 08:11 PM
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a reply to: CharlestonChew

I lean towards the same explanation. I'm surprised the explorer didn't get a taste for the views and keep doing it.




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