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Sigh, my free Windows 10 upgrade hasn't been too "free" so far.

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posted on Feb, 29 2016 @ 09:51 PM
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I couldn't recommend it to my company after they asked for an opinion on whether or not to upgrade this year, or wait another year. The privacy issues alone are worth stepping away from it. The fact you have to dig deep to turn off settings that invade your privacy is troubling. The fact that there are 11 options to choose from under privacy settings is a red flag to me (first time I've seen settings in regards to privacy for inking, voice, camera, speech, etc..)

What does: "We may automatically check your version of the software and download software updates or configuration changes, including those that prevent you from accessing the Services, playing counterfeit games, or using unauthorized hardware peripheral devices." even mean? Unauthorized hardware?!

Equally troubling is how hard they are trying to push it. I've never seen a major company push so hard to install a free OS onto your computer. I had to enable a GPO to stop MS from pushing the stupid upgrade on the task bar.. so that our employees wouldn't just willy-nilly upgrade their computers. Then I had to create a policy on our Symantec server to block the auto-install. Now that doesn't matter.. on a new boot into IE for a first-time user, it pushes the upgrade via MSN. You can't block it, and all we could do is warn our employees to not click / upgrade. Not even the EA Enterprise version of Windows 7 keeps that from coming up, although it should. MS wants to create havoc in our environment in the worst way for some reason. This is a relatively new.. they are upping the ante to force upgrading to Windows 10.

I don't trust this upgrade, I don't trust Edge, and it will probably take a year to test all the bank sites / Federal sites / commercial sites to work with it.. or simply fall back to Firefox.. which our SharePoint is not designed for. Works.. but not as it should, and I don't want it as our default browser.

The auto-update that they had to create a "fix" around and even then, it is basically a hidden fix, is ridiculous. Auto-updates are great.. until one screws up your environment. We'll probably deploy SCCM before even trying to upgrade the company to Windows 10.

I was able to roll back the one install one employee did.. because once they upgraded, a couple major programs failed to work, I believe P6 was one of them. I'll not install Windows 10 until we absolutely have to.. home use? Ok.. sure, I guess. I personally won't install it for myself or my wife for another year, at least.

Windows 10 is free to current Windows users. You often get what you pay for. This version is the first that has me leery of MS, and what they are trying to accomplish with this OS.
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posted on Feb, 29 2016 @ 09:52 PM
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a reply to: ParasuvO

Only problem with mine is the bottom left hinge is getting a little loose.

Maybe mine was made in the good part of China?



posted on Feb, 29 2016 @ 10:20 PM
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originally posted by: markosity1973
a reply to: ketsuko

The update pop-ups.

I get one every single time I log on.

It goes away if you disable automatic updates, but then you miss all the security fixes, which are still coming through.


You don't need to disable ALL updates, just 3 of them.

Google it, I disable them and it worked perfectly.



posted on Feb, 29 2016 @ 10:23 PM
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I have 2 laptops at home. I converted my very old one from 7 Pro to Windows 10 and left the newer one on Windows 8. Played around with it a little to check out all the changes and so far I am not impressed at all, man is it invasive. Needless to say it has become a dust collector and I only use it in my office when I am to lazy to carry my other puter in there which is not very often. I will hang on to Windows 8 or lower as long as possible.



posted on Feb, 29 2016 @ 11:28 PM
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I upgraded 1 PC and 1 Laptop in our home from Windows-7 to Windows-10 in the Fall of 2015. Since then, I've had to do a full wipe of the hard drive of both P.C.'s and reinstall Window10 again, using a Win10 installation disk that I burned with one of our home P.C.'s that I didn't (thankfully!) "upgrade" to Windows10.

Windows10 is like a keg of dynamite that might blow tomorrow...or next month...or 6 months from now. But it will crash HARD..right when you least expect it, and from what I've read and experienced, the big FATAL crash occurs during a start-up..not when it's already running, like older Windows O.S.'s used to do. For those of you who find that your Windows-10 machines are running great, enjoy them while you can, and make certain you have everything backed up on another drive, because System Restore won't even be accessible when your fatal crash comes to visit.

I often have to remind people that Windows10 is the first FREE operating system from Microsoft. As with anything else in commerce, you get what you pay for. Windows10 was designed as a data collector. Eventually, you'll start receiving targeted ads after Microsoft collects enough of our personal information. We didn't buy Windows10 with money, but in a manner of speaking, we are paying for it every day its connected to the internet, and we're using it.
-cwm



posted on Feb, 29 2016 @ 11:43 PM
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I've been using computer longer than the OP. And the drum beat of doom that accompanies each new OS or OS upgrade is very familiar. I just ignore it now.

They're like Yelp restaurant reviews. If everything I read on Yelp were true, I'd either have to avoid restaurants altogether, or be in a near constant state of gastrointestinal distress.

Computers are complicated machines. Sometimes they have unexpected problems. But they work so much better than they once did. And they do things I only dreamed they would.

When I tell millennials that there was a time when you couldn't play video on computers, they look at me incredulously as if I just told them that the earth once teemed with dragons.



posted on Mar, 1 2016 @ 12:44 AM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
Not touching Win10 until I have to.


Thats the great thing about the 21st century nobody can force you to do anything!

All though I did get it and loved it ever since.



posted on Mar, 1 2016 @ 01:06 AM
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Not to sound mean but most of your problems seem to stem from your lack of knowledge and wanting the Pro version. I have had no problems at all.



posted on Mar, 1 2016 @ 06:11 AM
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originally posted by: fossilera
Hopefully, this rant can help to save other people from the hassle known as Windows 10. First of all, I am not computer illiterate; my degree is in software engineering, and I've been around multiple operating systems since Windows 95. I've set up new laptops, dual boots, triple boots, and even kicked Windows 8 off my primary laptop and got Windows 7 to run flawlessly. However, my main enemy has come to haunt me: Windows 10.

-fossilera


Firstly no one should be logging into any microsoft software with an actual outlook account. You can choose to log into your Windows 10 machine with a local account, that being, just username password normally just asks for password.

Two, using Windows 10 is a dangerous game considering they are watching everything you do and this is not me being paranoid, this is happening. Windows 10 Sends Your Data 5,500 Times a Day You can find Windows 10 destroy on some torrent sites that denies some access but still even after this, you will find it still sends messages to microsoft. Microsoft are as much involved with the NSA and FBI then the government sector themsevles. Reason Bill went against Apple's current choice with encryption.

I would not use Windows 10 for your main machine and certainly not rely on an email log in system. In the future Microsoft will use your data on the cloud and hold it ransom and charge people to use there own data, the cloud age.

Well wishes however!

Computer network security specialist

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posted on Mar, 1 2016 @ 08:10 AM
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Linux is thisclose to being good enough to escape from MicroSoft. In terms of productivity, there's a lot of good software. The office suites are covered, they have half-decent graphics programs, reasonably good desktop publishing. Web browsing and email certainly isn't a problem. In terms of games, Steam and some indie developers now offer a good selection.

Problem is devs among the top distros would rather focus on everything but the handful of things that would make Linux a no-brainer. More or less they need to resolve issues with display drivers (make it so more than just the handful of top-end graphics cards work correctly, generic drivers often don't interface well with Gnome or KDE) and allow more settings to be completely controlled with the GUI interface so an inexperienced user doesn't have to dick around with gedit in order to change things in a way that may easily break startup settings and prevent proper boot-up. (Especially as a newb, when I probably don't know what the hell I'm doing and desperate to get my mouse working the way I want it to.)

So the only thing keeping a popular Linux distro from being a ready drop-in replacement is the Linux devs. If they'd get on the ball, the Windows near monopoly would be over.



posted on Mar, 1 2016 @ 01:19 PM
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a reply to: pauljs75

AND ADD IN that Microsoft Active Directory System
for Network Systems IS actually Quite Excellent and
the Master Management Console app is VERY GOOD
at what it does making Domain Administration a total
Breeze! Put an Active Directory Domain management
system AND a decent Computer Management-like
(with System Registry) type of computer hardware
management software on Linux and Windows is DEAD!



posted on Mar, 1 2016 @ 02:12 PM
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a reply to: fossilera

I upgraded my 3 personal pc's from W7 Ultimate to Win 10 pro w/o a hitch, I've upgraded 50 of my employer's desktop and laptops to Win 10 Enterprise...all without a issue.



posted on Mar, 1 2016 @ 02:37 PM
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The best thing to do with any laptop or desktop system is simply to buy a new hard disk or SSD drive, keep the existing drive as a backup and copy all your files across.

The first thing I did when I got my new laptop was to unplug the Windows 10 SSD as well as the hard drive (this had a backup partition which gobbled up 10% of the space and could not be repartitioned) and replace them with a single large capacity HDD made to be dual-boot Windows 7 and Linux Mint.



posted on Mar, 1 2016 @ 03:30 PM
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I just factory reset my laptop to get rid of Windows 10. I didn't have many issues with it all aside from performance. It was starting to get pretty sluggish on my laptop (which is only a year old). During the finalized installation it was nagging the piss out of me, with every step, that "Microsoft recommends upgrading to Windows 10," it is slightly annoying.

The main concern with Windows 10 is the amount of data it sends to Microsoft despite everything, including Cortana, disabled. I don't like it. So I took the hit of losing everything to revert back. I might just start running linux again to get away from it all.



posted on Mar, 1 2016 @ 04:08 PM
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one word. windows.



posted on Mar, 1 2016 @ 04:24 PM
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originally posted by: imthegoat
I just factory reset my laptop to get rid of Windows 10. I didn't have many issues with it all aside from performance. It was starting to get pretty sluggish on my laptop (which is only a year old). During the finalized installation it was nagging the piss out of me, with every step, that "Microsoft recommends upgrading to Windows 10," it is slightly annoying.

The main concern with Windows 10 is the amount of data it sends to Microsoft despite everything, including Cortana, disabled. I don't like it. So I took the hit of losing everything to revert back. I might just start running linux again to get away from it all.


The slowdown is caused by all the log files that Windows builds up over time. The registery tends to get cluttered too. If you have lots of icons and files on your desktop screen, that causes slowdown too.



posted on Mar, 1 2016 @ 06:27 PM
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Totally was on board with Windows 10, until I had a similar situation, except it was a VIDEO CARD I switched out.

Completely invalidated my Windows 10 licence (Which I got as a reward for being a Beta user since Beta came out for public testing.).

I spent an HOUR via chat support trying to get them to re-activate my licence, explaining all I had changed was my VIDEO CARD. They wanted my windows 7 key, as well as saying I would have to buy a full licence. I pointed out my e-mail that proved I was a beta-tester, and they finally re-activated my account.

Freaking insane.. Microsoft is trying to cache in on this, I fear, by catching people by the short-hairs.

I have since removed it from all of the computers in my home. I am presently checking out linux on my main machine.

Windows 7 for my less-savvy family members.



posted on Mar, 1 2016 @ 06:28 PM
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a reply to: imthegoat

There are ways, via registry edits, to remove said annoying banner and pop-ups.

Since it's inadvisable to play in the windows registry, I'll just say to google it.



posted on Mar, 1 2016 @ 07:46 PM
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I would not use Windows 10 for your main machine and certainly not rely on an email log in system. In the future Microsoft will use your data on the cloud and hold it ransom and charge people to use there own data, the cloud age.


Already starting really. I imagine Office 365 or whatever the next iteration is, will be the only way you can use Office in the future. Also I found a fun thing while creating a new image the other day. Now, if you have a OneDrive account, and log into another computer with Office, it is pulling data over stored in OneDrive, that I certainly did not put there. Personal Office settings, recent documents.. they were showing up on a clean install of Office. Which means it is being stored on OneDrive. I once had an Office 365 account on a hybrid environment as we were testing.. but nixed it due to issues with being down, and emails and contacts sometimes not coming through for a day or more.

Not using Office 365 now.. but those settings and document names and paths are showing up on fresh installs of Office on other computers. Haven't looked too deep into it yet.. but either it's a remnant of my Office 365 "experience," or it's just what happens now if you have a OneDrive account. I suspect the latter.

What is truly alarming is I did not log into Microsoft in any way on that computer. Fresh OS install. Fresh Office suite install. Yet.. my recent docs, etc.. were all coming over. Hadn't even opened Outlook. Just Excel and Word.
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posted on Mar, 2 2016 @ 05:54 AM
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originally posted by: stormcell

originally posted by: imthegoat
I just factory reset my laptop to get rid of Windows 10. I didn't have many issues with it all aside from performance. It was starting to get pretty sluggish on my laptop (which is only a year old). During the finalized installation it was nagging the piss out of me, with every step, that "Microsoft recommends upgrading to Windows 10," it is slightly annoying.

The main concern with Windows 10 is the amount of data it sends to Microsoft despite everything, including Cortana, disabled. I don't like it. So I took the hit of losing everything to revert back. I might just start running linux again to get away from it all.


The slowdown is caused by all the log files that Windows builds up over time. The registery tends to get cluttered too. If you have lots of icons and files on your desktop screen, that causes slowdown too.


I'm quite familiar with PC's and keep all if mine virtually clean. Registry is cleaned often of residual junk left over, HDD's fragmented, unecessary services disabled. Same with startup processes. I've had no problems in the past prior to Windows 10. Windows 8.1 runs smooth with virtually no issue. Considering dual booting linux or just linux period.


For the person who is running Linux Mint -- how is that distro? Can anyone offer any review on Puppy Linux? Best distro for everyday use? I haven't fully ran Linux since Redhat 9..so about 14-15 years ago I believe. I imagine a lot has changed.




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