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originally posted by: butcherguy
originally posted by: vjr1113
a reply to: butcherguy
thats really dumb im sorry but mass murderers and accidentally drowning are not even in the same ballpark. its not even in the same planet. and to add, its an equivocation fallacy. pools are just as dangerous and guns, therefore guns aren't that dangerous. its just a failure in logic.
what about homicides? what if only one person dies from an atomic blast ever, does that mean atomic bombs are less dangerous than pools? its just, such a weak argument.
But it IS about children dying and....
AHHHHH, so now we see the truth.
You don't care about children dying.
You must want them to die.
That is terrible... not caring about children dying, all because you want to have recreation.
originally posted by: vjr1113
originally posted by: butcherguy
originally posted by: vjr1113
a reply to: butcherguy
thats really dumb im sorry but mass murderers and accidentally drowning are not even in the same ballpark. its not even in the same planet. and to add, its an equivocation fallacy. pools are just as dangerous and guns, therefore guns aren't that dangerous. its just a failure in logic.
what about homicides? what if only one person dies from an atomic blast ever, does that mean atomic bombs are less dangerous than pools? its just, such a weak argument.
But it IS about children dying and....
AHHHHH, so now we see the truth.
You don't care about children dying.
You must want them to die.
That is terrible... not caring about children dying, all because you want to have recreation.
now you're just creating strawmen and putting words im my mouth. its dishonest, cheap, and childish. this is no longer a conversation. its insults and lies on your part.
i dont agree with you claim that pulling a trigger and falling into a pool are not the same thing. pulling a trigger requires intention to kill, falling into a pool is an accident. its mind blowing and interesting this is your argument.
re read my post. i never said, you said guns arent dangerous. i said you think pools and guns are equally dangerous, which i think is absolutely absurd.
originally posted by: vjr1113
a reply to: butcherguy
ill re post it
re read my post. i never said, you said guns arent dangerous. i said you think pools and guns are equally dangerous, which i think is absolutely absurd.
do you think the easy access of guns that can kill a large amount of people very quickly is a problem or not?
do you think more gun control and less lethal weapons can reduce the number of homicides and mass murders?
originally posted by: Eilasvaleleyn
a reply to: DBCowboy
I'm all over the place because I was trying to work out what your ideology was, and where its internal consistency came from.
When you say "Rights of Others", do you mean what is outlined in the Bill of Rights? Are there any other documents you would point to?
to say i dont care about children dying is just absolutely stupid and insulting to me
originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: vjr1113
to say i dont care about children dying is just absolutely stupid and insulting to me
Then, since you profess to care for children, I expect that we will see you start a campaign to ban swimming pools?
Since I have shown that they cause more children's deaths than guns.
originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: vjr1113
i care that children drown in pools, pool safety is important and i wouldnt ban pools because its an easy accident to avoid.
If it is so easy to avoid, why are kids dying because of them at a rate that exceeds guns?
originally posted by: vjr1113
originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: vjr1113
i care that children drown in pools, pool safety is important and i wouldnt ban pools because its an easy accident to avoid.
If it is so easy to avoid, why are kids dying because of them at a rate that exceeds guns?
bad parents. irrelevant argument.
originally posted by: butcherguy
originally posted by: vjr1113
originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: vjr1113
i care that children drown in pools, pool safety is important and i wouldnt ban pools because its an easy accident to avoid.
If it is so easy to avoid, why are kids dying because of them at a rate that exceeds guns?
bad parents. irrelevant argument.
So all children drown in pools because of bad parenting?
So just because of some bad apples, we shouldn't ban pools???
But we should ban guns because of bad apples?
i never said, you said guns arent dangerous.
and to add, its an equivocation fallacy. pools are just as dangerous and guns, therefore guns aren't that dangerous. its just a failure in logic.