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Topic started on 10-1-2005 @ 08:46 PM by Gools
China is fast becoming a major player in the world oil market. There is an editorial today on Financial times.com about China contemplating a takeover of US oil giant Unocal.


… Asia has suddenly accelerated its quest for energy security in recent days. Chinese oil companies are expanding their investment horizon to the point of weighing up the purchase of a US major, Unocal. India has followed China into investing in Iranian oil and gas. Both are vying for a piece of Russia's truncated Yukos. And India has just hosted the first meeting of Gulf oil-producing and Asian oil-consuming countries.

It is not surprising that oil-poor Asia has become so energy-anxious. Its four big economies - China, Japan, India and South Korea - import 12m barrels a day, more than the US, and their import dependence is either higher or rising faster than the US.


This is old-fashioned mercantilism. But if it leads, for instance, China to bid for Unocal, why should the US object any more than it did to BP's numerous US purchases? Provided, of course, that China behaves like BP, and does not somehow attempt to use Unocal as its own private pumping station, taking it out of the market. – [emphasis added] -
story - see also NEWS: Chinese Company Mulls Unocal Bid


This move comes on the heels of several other geopolitical moves moves by China.

For example …

They have signed energy deals worth $200 billion with Iran. China Rocks the Geopolitical Boat!

They have moved into the US sphere of political influence signing large trade deals with Brazil and Argentina and had talks with Chile and Cuba. China keeps rocking the geopolitical boat!


They have been courting Canadian oil companies. China Emerging as U.S. Rival for Canada’s Oil

They have strengthened their relationship with Venezuela. Had the European arms embargo lifted and negotiated military links with Russia as well as negotiating a trade deal with New Zealand. China and Venezuela to strengthen partnership

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They have teamed up with Russia and Venezuela (perhaps as a challenge to OPEC?). OPEC's Days Are Numbered

Michael Ruppert on the FTW website speculates that the recent announcement from Russia to build their new pipeline to the pacific (so as to supply Japan and related markets) is a ruse to get Japan to pay for part of the pipeline that will eventually feed China rather that Japan.


No. There's something else moving under the carpet here. That was hinted at by Japan's reluctance to celebrate until Putin hit them with his investment demands.

This is far from over and China is far from out of the game. I would not put it past Putin to use it to buy time with the US while laying the seeds for a collapse of talks and construction down the road; say when the pipeline is built to the geographic point where it must either turn south or continue east. That's maybe 2-3 years away and in the meantime Putin's options remain open. Wouldn't it be nice to have Japan pay for that segment of the pipeline?

China would love that.

This is the end game of games. There are no rules. – story


All of these geopolitical moves have occurred during the last few months.

There is definitely a rush on for grabbing the last oil reserves on the planet and China is moving fast and furious while the US is bogged down in Iraq trying to take their share by force. The US is also at war with Europe (economically) trying to prevent the Euro from replacing the Petrodollar (see third post about Petrodollars in this thread).

So what do you think?

Is the US sleeping at the switch while bogged down in Iraq?

Is there some reason a Chinese oil company could not buy an American oil company in the land where the "free market" is worshipped?

Will China soon own an oil tanker named after Condi Rice?

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reply posted on 13-1-2005 @ 04:54 PM by Countermeasures
Would the Chinese be pissed off if America messes with iranian oilfields while defusing their nuclear facillities?

I have a little theory that China already supplied Iran with a few crude nukes to be used on saoudi arabia and iraqi oilfields kind of a NOT deterrent, No Oil Today....the second part of the theory is that this information was allowed to be leakerd to washington, So the American government can pretend it doesn't know and no economical sanctions against China have to be taken, bussiness as usual, but at the same time Iran would not be stepped upon...

Therefore I would expect rather millitary action to take place in Syria than Iran and surprise surprise, allthough I am willing to believe that Syria plays an important role in supplying insurgants with money/logistics/weapons it's very notable how the american and Israeli press the last two weeks seem to have suddenly shift the attention from Teherans nuclear ambitions to Damascus, perhaps to soften up the public and kinda building momentum for the inevitable....???

I bet a grand American cruise missile attack would provoke the theorised Hizbollah response against Israel, wich in turn would serve the purpose of some israeli hardliners that really concerned negotiations with the newly elected and seemingly moderate palestine president will lead to a peace with some compromises made and that is not according to their masterplan, Hamas likewise, they don't seem to want to accept a realistic peace that ensures decent place uinder the sun for both parties...


So, conspiricy theory dictates that a major "incident" will happen just before the peace agreements are about to be signed, we'll see....


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reply posted on 28-1-2005 @ 06:38 PM by Gools
China has signed a deal for oil and uranium with Canada.

See
NEWS: Canada Signs Energy Deals with China

And see why China holds all of the economic cards in my post on this thread...
POLITICS: The Shrinking US Dollar

China is positioning itself as the new superpower and directly challenging the US geopolitical agenda.
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reply posted on 29-1-2005 @ 03:04 PM by cryptorsa1001
China may have a contract to buy these resources from differnet countires but the US has military bases along with American oil companies developing the biggest producing oil fields. We have bases in Saudia Arabia and Iraq. Chinas contracts with Iran will be null and void when the current regime is ousted. There is a big difference between having the physical control and military capability to get it to the market. The US military is in the position to control the majority of the worlds oil reserves. If I was China I would be nervous about the future.

I too believe that China and the US will battle over enregy. God help us all.

Here is part of an article I saw the other day:

USAF playing cat and mouse game over Iran
By Richard Sale
UPI Intelligence Correspondent
Published January 26, 2005


NEW YORK -- The U.S. Air Force is playing a dangerous game of cat and mouse with Iran's ayatollahs, flying American combat aircraft into Iranian airspace in an attempt to lure Tehran into turning on air defense radars, thus allowing U.S. pilots to grid the system for use in future targeting data, administration officials said.

"We have to know which targets to attack and how to attack them," said one, speaking on condition of anonymity.

The flights, which have been going on for weeks, are being launched from sites in Afghanistan and Iraq and are part of Bush administration attempts collect badly needed intelligence on Iran's possible nuclear weapons development sites, these sources said, speaking on condition of strict anonymity.

"These Iranian air defense positions are not just being observed, they're being 'templated,'" an administration official said, explaining that the flights are part of a U.S. effort to develop "an electronic order of battle for Iran" in case of actual conflict.


reply posted on 2-2-2005 @ 06:57 PM by Gools
Other players are not sitting idly by...

It’s been nearly 20 years since US companies have been allowed to trade with Libya. The recent re-opening of this country to foreign oil companies has allowed the US back into the Libyan oil industry. An auction was held this past week for bids to oil rights.


In news out of Tripoli, the prospects for U.S. companies were looking up with Amerada Hess, Occidental Petroleum and ChevronTexaco, which won exploration contracts for 11 blocks in Libya.

Amerada was part of The Oasis Group, which once worked with the Libyan National Oil Co. in the prolific Waha Field.
Houston companies ConocoPhillips and Marathon Oil were also a part of Oasis.

The industry scuttlebutt is that the three companies could soon reach new terms to work in the Waha Field again.

Occidental won nine blocks by putting together bids with other energy firms, including Liwa of the United Arab Emirates, and Woodside Petroleum of Australia.

The government will auction oil exploration rights to another 40 blocks in February. Libya holds Africa's largest oil reserves, with an estimated 36 billion barrels.

U.S. oil firms win rights to explore Libya


The same story reports on five energy deals signed between China and Venezuela this past week.


Venezuela's state-controlled oil company, which has recently insisted U.S. companies offer better terms for energy projects, signed five energy deals with China National Petroleum Co. that were part of a broader trade negotiation between the two countries.

In Caracas, President Hugo Chavez and China's Vice President Zeng Qinghong were on hand to announce the trade and energy pact.
China National Petroleum Co. and Petróleos de Venezuela say they will conduct joint exploration in several projects offshore and in the Orinoco Oil Belt and Zumano fields.


Venezuela has also turned to Iran to help develop markets in Asia (i.e. China).


Venezuela has enlisted Iran's help to steer its oil exports to China and away from its traditional US market.

A team of traders from Petroleos de Venezuela, the state-owned oil company, is to be trained in London by Iranian advisers in how to best place oil in Asian markets, people close to the industry say.

The move is part of an effort by Venezuela, the world's fifth-largest oil exporter, to strengthen ties with China at the expense of the US, with whom relations are again becoming strained after a two-year period of calm.

Iran is Venezuela's closest ally in the Organisation of the Petroleum Exporting Countries, which has agreed to keep output quotas unchanged in the short term to support oil prices.

Iran to help Venezuela to sell more oil to Asia


So China, Iran and Venezuela are solidifying their relationships versus the US.

Libya’s oil rights auction has also benefited other players. Oil demand in India is also rising fast and they have secured access to Libyan oil. This is the first time an Indian oil companies sign a deal for foreign exploration and development and they will be bidding for more.


Indian Oil Corporation (IOC) and its partner Oil India Ltd (OIL) have won an oil block in Libya in the first-ever joint foray in oil and gas exploration overseas.

IOC-OIL won onshore block-086 in the highly prospective Sirte basin, officials in IOC said.

The two firms had last month forged an alliance for joint venture into oil and gas exploration and production in other countries.

Officials said IOC-OIL will bid for at least two out of the 40 licences Libya proposes to offer in the second round next month.

Indian Oil, OIL win oil block in Libya


In yet another deal signed this week, the US has secured access to Nigeria and Sao Tome’s oil resources. This is also the first time Sao Tome ventures into the foreign oil markets. I guess that American backed coup has payed off.


Nigeria and Sao Tome signed a landmark oil exploration contract with a U.S.-dominated consortium on Tuesday, marking Sao Tome's first steps into the world of big oil, authorities said on Tuesday.

ChevronTexaco has 51 percent of the equity, while ExxonMobil has 40 percent and Dangote Energy Equity Resources, a small Nigerian/Norwegian company, holds 9 percent.

A tiny and impoverished nation of 170,000 people, Sao Tome has been rocked by coup attempts and accusations of corruption as it prepares to become the latest African petro-state.

It is located in the center of the Gulf of Guinea, where several major oil discoveries in deep water over the last 10 years have turned it into one of the world's exploration hotspots. The United States hopes to import a quarter of its oil from the Gulf of Guinea region in a decade, from 14 percent now.

Nigeria/Sao Tome Ink Oil Deal with U.S. Cos


But then again some people believe that Peak Oil is a myth and that the US invaded Iraq to bring democracy and freedom to the world.
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