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originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: Jahari
originally posted by: Daedalus
a reply to: Jahari
Yes, if you're a cop, or a soldier, assuming you've had the proper training, it's cake easy.. i'll give you that. I've had that training, assuming you're not BS'ing me about being a Marine, you've had that training, we know it's easy. Cops aren't typically given extensive hand-to-hand training(unless you're talking some kind of SWAT, or ERT group). They are trained, primarily, to use instruments that allow them to engage threats from a distance. Yes, they have Tonfas, or collapsible batons, and they're taught basics, but nothing seriously advanced.
The average response to someone trying to hit you, is to raise an arm, or arms, to shield your head/face/neck/torso/etc. Your average beat cop isn't wearing any kind of armor on their extremities, so a downward stroke from an implement with enough mass, leverage, and inertia, applied to a forearm, is going to break said forearm.
Someone who presents a clear threat to the officer, is never going to be allowed to get close enough to actually land a blow.
My point is that the weapon, no matter how pathetic it may appear, still represents a clear threat. Police are trained to neutralize threats, much in the same way Marines are. I'm curious as to why a Taser wasn't used, the only thing i can come up with is that the officer in question didn't have one... and perhaps the department in question doesn't have them. I don't know that, any more than any of us knows any of the facts of what occurred here.
We're talking about a broom stick!!! His response should have reflected the threat. Shouldnt be so quick to shoot to kill. I was going to bring the taste up also, maybe some pepper spray, non-lethal munitions. It was so many other alternatives. I don't know the details maybe the kid was going nuts but I wholeheartedly believe shooting to kill in all situations is ridiculous. I give you more credit then your letting on, you can't see the right in shooting a kid dead with a broom stick!
how long was the broom stick? What color was it? what kind of wood was it made of? How tall was the kid? how much did he weigh?
What? you don't have those answers? Yea, neither do we. so until we do, Mr. Armchair quarterback, I suggest a time out, and a bit more information before we hang the officer in question.
Didn't the marines teach you discipline?
originally posted by: Daedalus
a reply to: Jahari
The latest available information i saw, was that he was taken to the hospital in critical condition, and was immediately taken into surgery. If he expired from his wounds, i haven't heard about it.
In any event, as i said to you last time we talked, we need to wait until we have more information. Even a BS reason for shooting the kid, is still a reason.
originally posted by: mikell
a reply to: MOMof3
I'm not sure you can train hoodrats the cops seem to be just doing their job. Maye a little English comprehension might save a few but I doubt it. they just seem plain STUPID!