Panicking Mitch McConnell Says GOP Will Help Hillary Beat Trump If He Wins The Nomination

a reply to: angeldoll

Do you get the feeling they are trying to make a republican problem seem like it's a democrat problem? Yeah,that's a technique 6 yr olds use.

originally posted by: EternalSolace
All I read was that the Mitch McConnell doesn't care what the people want should the people choose Trump. Come on people of Kentucky. If this doesn't show you all what complete filth McConnell is, I don't know what will.

On the contrary. It shows maybe he does care about the country somewhat, and is willing to cross lines to rescue it from the sheer disaster of placing it in the hands of any of the poor wretch's his own party has showcased. It's the only thing he's ever done that is remotely intelligent.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: burgerbuddy

In my opinion ... Trump is Trump.

Aside from a bigger stage and a wider-ranging script, he's playing the same role he always has.

Trump's popularity is a sign of a deeper movement in America's collective soul or consciousness and that is "just say no."

Because if you actually LISTEN to Trump's ideas ... he's not really saying anything, i.e. there's little to no actual policy there.

As several have pointed out it's not that people like Trump ... is that we hate "business as usual."

For those in favor of smaller government, no policy is the default policy.

All of our problems result from governmental policy that was impossible. Governemnt has no incentive to solve problems, they would be destroying their careers.

originally posted by: angeldoll

originally posted by: EternalSolace
All I read was that the Mitch McConnell doesn't care what the people want should the people choose Trump. Come on people of Kentucky. If this doesn't show you all what complete filth McConnell is, I don't know what will.

On the contrary. It shows maybe he does care about the country somewhat, and is willing to cross lines to rescue it from the sheer disaster of placing it in the hands of any of the poor wretch's his own party has showcased. It's the only thing he's ever done that is remotely intelligent.

Oh, I see. So it's okay if an elected official goes against the will of the people so long as he believes it's in everyone's best interest? Would you still think it intelligent if he hadn't backed Hillary and instead backed Rubio or Cruz?

originally posted by: Medicator
a reply to: Gryphon66 Check out how many republicans are voting compared to democrats. The democrat voter turn out is SUPER LOW, Hilary will NEVER beat Trump in anything but a poll comprised of 100 people.

Nothing in the past history of voter turnout in Presidential Election years confirms your contention. What "poll comprised of 100 people" are you referring to?

Also, what do you think about McConnell's apparent suggestion that the RNC/Party Leadership will work AGAINST Mr. Trump, should he be their nominee?

Mitch McConnell has always been an embarrassment to the republican party. Because of his vote sanctuary cities still exist.

originally posted by: Medicator
Mitch McConnell has always been an embarrassment to the republican party. Because of his vote sanctuary cities still exist.

Embarrassment? Did the Democrats make him Senate Majority Leader then? LOL.

Seriously. Can you make a cogent argument that McConnell doesn't represent the leadership of the Republican Party?

originally posted by: Gryphon66


Also, what do you think about McConnell's apparent suggestion that the RNC/Party Leadership will work AGAINST Mr. Trump, should he be their nominee?

That's the point that some people just aren't getting. Doesn't matter which side you're on. When people vote you into office, you damned well better represent the people who put you there and what they believe in.

a reply to: Gryphon66 I saw the vote turnout with my own eyes, in 2012 You could not get to the voting booth here or in Charleston, yesterday there were only a few cars there, the voter numbers compared to 2012 are dismal. The presidential polls are irrelevant at this point because so many people were in the race, anyone dropping out would change the whole dynamic. I am referring to head to head polling, not primary, the primary polls were right on if you ask me, my point is that Hilary wont get the votes that Obama got, that was my point.

It is expected that a neocon like McConnell would do that, its something they would have said about Ron Paul or any other candidate that doesn't take money form lobbyists. Mitch has always been a terrible politician.

a reply to: Gryphon66 No the republicans did, maybe the neocon republicans, I mean seriously, the majority of the republicans and democrats are idiots, that I will not argue . McConell may speak for the neocon idiots of the party but the few non uber conservative more liberal republicans like me probably wouldn't listen to him. The only thing I know as 100% fact is that I don't like the guy.

originally posted by: EternalSolace

originally posted by: Gryphon66


Also, what do you think about McConnell's apparent suggestion that the RNC/Party Leadership will work AGAINST Mr. Trump, should he be their nominee?

That's the point that some people just aren't getting. Doesn't matter which side you're on. When people vote you into office, you damned well better represent the people who put you there and what they believe in.

Indeed. The programming we all have had to always "defend our team" is quite strongly evident.

But ... if I don't miss my mark ... it looks like there's a wave (both with Trump and Sanders) of "deprogramming" going on.

IF the groups we generally refer to as "the Powers that Be" have actually been caught unawares here ... rather than all this being some sort of extended and dramatic new "presentation" that in fact will result in greater political control (one Party?) then ... I'm more than a little concerned about the ramifications of "the fit" they may "throw" if we the People are actually thwarting their plans.

I'm jaded at this point as well as hopeful ... but I can say that if the RNC runs or supports attack ads on their own Candidate, that will change the game forever.

More people will be forced to look "behind the curtain" ... which while depressing is never a bad thing.

a reply to: ketsuko

We gave them the House, and nothing was done.

I guess I'm spewing all my venom this morning (sorry, not directed at you personally) but I think the reason they haven't done anything is they aren't smart enough. These particular group of people are clueless as to how to effectively run a government as complicated as ours. All of them need to be replaced, including the two from my state who have been there FOREVER.

I hope they will all be replaced, but I'll be the first one to say, from the looks of what's going on here, our nitwits will go right back to Washington and continue to fill their pockets like the rest of them.

a reply to: EternalSolace

If I was a Trump supporter, no doubt I would be highly ticked off. So I see where you are coming from.

a reply to: Semicollegiate

Have you listened to Mr. Trump?

Do you think his plans, vague as they are, would result in "smaller" government?

He promises to start issuing Executive Orders on Day One.

Because, as he notes, he doesn't need Congress for that.

With Trumps latest antics of mocking the Pope by throwing water around the pulpit like it was Holy Water and then tossing the bottle behind him, how do you think the rest of the Catholic world will be if Trump is elected President. Trump has bashed Muslims, and Christians alike. Trump wants to have this war against ISIS if elected but who will listen Trump? Not the good ones. The good groups will be fractured allowing ISIS to attack them and based on Trumps message to the Pope, "If you would have voted for me I would have protected you from ISIS."

Trump is nothing but a disaster waiting to happen. Trump is a Real Estate Morgul who knows how to devalue property to get the property to sell very cheaply and then turn around and sell it a higher price then it was originally worth.

Trump is setting up something so that his son can follow in his footsteps and have an empire left behind for him just like Trump was handed his empire to him through inheritance.

a reply to: ketsuko

f we, as a populace, cannot effect change through the ballot box, then it may be time to use the 2nd for one of its purposes, and I would hope at that point the left is as ready to stand with the right to at least oust the problem as the right should be to stand with the left.

Are you talking armed revolution? History has shown us that it's a very dangerous path. The right wing would be for shooting the libs; at least that's the impression I get from the conservative ATS members. It's always the fault of left wingers. The Rush, Beck, Hannity, Savage and Levin, Coulter, politics of division has worked extremely well.

You reap what you sow...

a reply to: Gryphon66

It's obvious that Trump doesn't know how the government operates because Trump views himself as King. Trump being elected is the Religious Right Wings dream come true where a tyrant comes into office and replaced the Constitution of the United States with a religious theocracy. Only those who have had their freedoms taken away would vote for Trump if they still are able to or would be used by Trump to force those against Trump to vote for him.

Trump just like his supporters are mentally handicapped people who need to have walls built around them so they can be housed in the same unit and kept away from the rest of the world.

a reply to: Dryson

If Trump is capable of all that you said, then you must understand the concern others have of a Sanders presidency to disregard the Constitution and turn the US into a socialist/communist state.


If you are going to call all supporters of Trump mentally handicapped, then you might be a person that calls all Muslims terrorists, or voters "low information voters" simply because they don't vote the same as you.

It speaks more of a casual arrogance and an elitist mentality to disregard the opinions of others.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: tweetie

LOL ... hardly, I've not seen a thread where you commented yet that wasn't better for your presence.

I see things a bit differently ... to me, Trump is a symptom, not the cause.

How about if I say he is a catalyst and/or a facilitator for a movement in the "collective soul or consciousness?"

Trump is a natural winner as evidenced by his life and I think he authentically wants America to win, too. That basic integrity of purpose is present, from what I can see, whether one votes for him or not, likes him or not.

There's a man who lives in my town who's very wealthy and is a natural winner, too, but on a smaller scale. I call him the town benefactor. He uses his wealth to help others to win as well.

This is a man who was replacing a barn roof on one of his many pieces of property. Across the street from the field this barn sits on is a row of upscale houses. He asked all of the homeowners what color they would prefer for the roof because they'd be the ones who'd see it from the front of their properties.

Thank you for the acknowledgement. It is appreciated.

a reply to: diggindirt

That couple of months ago you mentioned; was that before Donald was on Infowars?

Look at how much things have shifted in the last few months! It's stunning, to me anyway.