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Kiev trains ‘special unit’ to take back Crimea from Russia – Ukrainian Interior Minister

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posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 03:36 PM
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a reply to: MrSpad




While it is unlikely Ukraine would move to liberate Crimea anytime soon, as Russia continues to decline it might wait until the right moment.


And that moment may be when Crimea wants to get back with Ukraine since it seems Russia isn't doing enough for them.

That may never happen, but that is a possibility.




posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 03:37 PM
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a reply to: spy66




but you tell People about only the one side of the coin.


So tell us about the other side of that coin?



posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 03:48 PM
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a reply to: MrSpad




Well Ukraine is likely feeling much better about its position. Not only with backing and aid from the West but, with China and Belarus defying Russian and making trade and defense deals.


Let's not forget the foreign investment Ukraine is seeing.


Feb 24 U.S. agriculture giant Cargill will invest $100 million in building a new grain terminal at Ukraine's Black Sea port of Yuzhny, Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseny Yatseniuk said on Wednesday.

The terminal, near Ukraine's biggest port city of Odessa, will have an annual loading capacity of 5 million tonnes of grain and other commodities, Andriy Pivovarsky, Ukrainian infrastructure minister, said after a signing ceremony.


www.reuters.com...

And more to come I'm sure.



posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 04:03 PM
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Putin won't give up Crimea.

He used the referendum of popular vote to justify his ulterior motive - blocking any western power from having naval access to the black sea, which is Russia's back doorstep.

I just imagine Russia will stir up another civil war if Mr Poroshenko or any other leader tries anything.



posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 04:47 PM
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a reply to: tsurfer2000h

This FSB guy you are quoting:


Igor Ivanovich Strelkov, born Igor Vsevolodovich Girkin (Russian: И́горь Ива́нович Стрелко́в; IPA: [ˈiɡərʲ ɪˈvanəvʲɪtɕ strʲɪlˈkof], Russian: И́горь Все́володович Ги́ркин; IPA: [ˈiɡərʲ ˈfsʲɛvələdəvʲɪtɕ ˈɡʲirkʲɪn]), born on 17 December 1970,[2] is a Russian army artillery veteran[1] who played a key role in the War in Donbass as an organizer of theDonetsk People's Republic independence movement.[3][4] Girkin, a self-describedRussian nationalist and imperialist, participant of several other conflicts, was charged by Ukraine authorities with terrorism[5] and is currently sanctioned by the European Unionfor his leading role in the armed conflict in eastern Ukraine.[6] Ukrainian authorities have called him a retired colonel of the GRU(Russia's external military intelligence organisation) who participated in the 2014 Crimea crisis.[6][7][8]

According to different sources, he unreservedly demands that the "liberal clans" (liberal part of the Russian elite) be destroyed.[9][10]

He is currently being sued by the families of eighteen passengers who were killed when forces under his command allegedly shot down Malaysia Airlines Flight 17.[11]



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Was that story Girkin gave part of his plea bargin or something?

FFS!!

And dont you suppose that if Russia was REALLY hiding the fact that they had soldiers in Crimea they might have tried to be a little more clandestime about it? The Crimeans didnt care about them. It was an expected reaction for them. I remember all the news reels quite clearly. Nobody was crossing the street because green soldiers were approaching because the green soldiers were welcome there. It was a lot more peaceful than what was going on in the rest of Ukraine thanks to violent rebels that supported the new western backed government.


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posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 05:03 PM
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originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: MrSpad




Well Ukraine is likely feeling much better about its position. Not only with backing and aid from the West but, with China and Belarus defying Russian and making trade and defense deals.


Let's not forget the foreign investment Ukraine is seeing.


Feb 24 U.S. agriculture giant Cargill will invest $100 million in building a new grain terminal at Ukraine's Black Sea port of Yuzhny, Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseny Yatseniuk said on Wednesday.

The terminal, near Ukraine's biggest port city of Odessa, will have an annual loading capacity of 5 million tonnes of grain and other commodities, Andriy Pivovarsky, Ukrainian infrastructure minister, said after a signing ceremony.


www.reuters.com...

And more to come I'm sure.


LMAO!!

The worlds 7th largest grain market infiltrated by the worlds largest argricultural conglomerate...

All that beautiful black soil is just gave way to a GMO gang linching.

Be interesting to watch the cancer rates in Ukraine over the next few generations.



posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 05:04 PM
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I remember all the news reels quite clearly. Nobody was crossing the street because green soldiers were approaching because the green soldiers were welcome there.

They were welcome there? No. They were sent there, and no one is going to challenge a little green man with a kalashnikov.



posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 05:45 PM
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originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: MALBOSIA




I remember all the news reels quite clearly. Nobody was crossing the street because green soldiers were approaching because the green soldiers were welcome there.

They were welcome there? No. They were sent there, and no one is going to challenge a little green man with a kalashnikov.


Yes, the the soldiers were sent there. No, your not going to challange an armed soldier to a fight. The point, is that there was no fight and no sudden unusual occupation. There were more soldiers than usual starting from an instant, but it was expected considering Ukraine was under seige from violent rebels and Russia is cut off from defending their fleets otherwise.

If Putin let Ukraine take control of one of the most important defences of their nation, he would be an idiot. For all intents and purposes Crimea was a huge success. No shots fired and Russia has posession. If Russia did not get it this way and they had to do it another, it could have been a lot worse. Lets not kid ourselves. The Crimea is Russia's. It would taken decades of married relations between Russia, US and NATO before Russia would ever consider giving up Crimea. The loss would be irreparable.
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posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 05:56 PM
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Russia could have kept their troops in port and NOTHING would have happened to it. The annexation of Crimea was pre-planned.

They took an entire peninsula to secure a port.



posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 06:01 PM
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Sweden loaned, 10.000.000 dollars to the Kiev government.. We are gonna send a couple of diplomats to look over your current situation and your govern.. Yours sincerly Sweden..



posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 06:29 PM
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a reply to: Kantjil

Dear Sweden,

Do you have room for one more?

Sincerely,

A frustrated American



posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 07:17 PM
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a reply to: Vector99

Im gonna be reallly honest, dont take this the wrong way, we dont let Americans in our society, you sound to much and have to much problem adapting and you are against socialism.. Thing is, your culture is about 200 years, ours is f******** old.. But if you have kids, under the age of 5 we will adopt them..



posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 07:30 PM
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originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: MALBOSIA

Russia could have kept their troops in port and NOTHING would have happened to it. The annexation of Crimea was pre-planned.

They took an entire peninsula to secure a port.


The coupe in Ukraine was planned by Russia to give themselves cause to take Crimea? So Russia traded all of Ukraine to foreign interests as a smoke sceen to take Crimea.?

Or do you mean pre-planned as in Russia followed a preplanned response to a scenario that was forseen as a possible threat? Like the US has plans to invade Canada?



posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 07:53 PM
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a reply to: Kantjil

Dear Sweden,

Nevermind you sound like a cult.


originally posted by: MALBOSIA

originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: MALBOSIA

Russia could have kept their troops in port and NOTHING would have happened to it. The annexation of Crimea was pre-planned.

They took an entire peninsula to secure a port.


The coupe in Ukraine was planned by Russia to give themselves cause to take Crimea?

Wait what? Where did I say that?



posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 08:02 PM
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a reply to: Vector99

The real world isnt for everyone



posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 11:05 PM
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a reply to: MALBOSIA

teh DPR i sth erebels. th elegit government in Kiev is fighting against them. the DPR was responsible for the MH-17 disaster. And th e government in Kiev is legit. Even russia recognized it as such. They held a election just like their constitution states.

ALso th former president was under investigation for corruption and ran to avoid prosecution in a hostile prosecutorial environment.



posted on Feb, 29 2016 @ 07:19 PM
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Yeah. Who doesn't love a good election during a civil war. Great farce btw!


“When Ukrainians kill Ukrainians, I believe it’s as close to civil war as you can get,” Sergei Lavrov told Bloomberg Television yesterday in an interview in Moscow. “In the east and south of Ukraine, there is a war, a real war, with heavy weaponry used, and if this is something that is conducive to free and fair elections, then I don’t understand something about freedom.”

www.bloomberg.com...

He's just a Russian and I'm a troll. What the heck do we know about freedom anyway, eh?

Old & busted: Ukraine on Her Knees
New hotness: on your knees, Crimeans!



I'm looking forward to Nato's answer for the invasion plans, Comedy Gold guaranteed.
Our pseudo democrats from Kiev better call Saul Erdogan to work something out, he could ask his son to provide them with some cheap IS oil or something.





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