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Kiev trains ‘special unit’ to take back Crimea from Russia – Ukrainian Interior Minister

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posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 10:44 AM
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Kiev trains ‘special unit’ to take back Crimea from Russia – Ukrainian Interior Minister


Ukraine is training a special unit to help Kiev retake Crimea, the country’s Interior Minister said, as President Poroshenko mulls building up its military along the peninsula’s borders. In Crimea, officials warn the “unlawful” invasion would be repelled.

“We have nothing. We need a new army, a new National Guard, a new police force. This is what the government of Ukraine is working on right now. We must restore all of this, and then, with enough will, Crimea will be ours,” Arsen Avakov, Ukraine’s Interior Minister, told the Ukrainian 1+1 TV Channel, asserting, “I have no doubt of that.”

In fact, the Ukrainian minister said that Kiev is presently training a special force, separate within the National Guard.

“We are training some guys with the help of Mustafa Dzhemilev and Refat Chubarov (Crimean Tatar activists in Ukraine),” he said, while giving no details, adding, “We are working on a project that will prepare us to regain Crimea.”

On Friday, President Petro Poroshenko tasked the Defense Ministry and the General Staff of the Armed Forces to draft proposals on reinforcing the border between Ukraine and Crimea.

“The Defense Ministry and the General Staff of the Ukrainian Armed Forces have been told to submit proposals on a considerable buildup of Ukraine’s defense capabilities in the Kherson region and along the entire Black Sea coast,” the presidential press service said in a press release.

The move’s main purpose is to counter the Russian Army’s growing capability in Crimea, Poroshenko said.

In the meantime, in Crimea, Kiev’s threats triggered harsh criticisms and warnings, but were hardly taken seriously.

“Avakov is blowing smoke to create the appearance of a threat,” Sergey Menyailo, the governor of Sevastopol, told RIA Novosti. “No one in Crimea, neither residents, nor, especially, armed forces, is afraid of these braggart statements for one simple reason – that there is a powerful force, armed with all types of modern military equipment [located here],” he said, adding that it would be better for Ukrainian troops to think about how they would be “taking their heels,” if they were, indeed, confronted by Russia’s military.


Not been much news on Ukraine in recent months so here's some fresh war porn for us all, it seems that Ukraine wants to reclaim Crimea and is building up their military in order to do this.

No word yet on a Russian rhetoric in response to this but I don't think Putin will be happy about it after the effort he put in to assisting the rebels in Ukraine fighting against the US backed puppet government forced upon the people of Ukraine.

Looks like things are going to escalate again on the borders of the bear I wonder




posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 10:56 AM
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Ukraine cannot even defeat its breakaway republics, and they're going to take on the big, bad Bear? That's almost as funny as the Zambian space program...



posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 11:15 AM
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originally posted by: Lazarus Short
Ukraine cannot even defeat its breakaway republics, and they're going to take on the big, bad Bear? That's almost as funny as the Zambian space program...
So the Russian bots have quit trying to convince everyone that Russia is not in Crimea?



posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 11:17 AM
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originally posted by: Lazarus Short
Ukraine cannot even defeat its breakaway republics, and they're going to take on the big, bad Bear? That's almost as funny as the Zambian space program...

If an operation to reclaim Crimea happens, it won't be just Ukrainian troops. There will be little red and blue men there without a doubt. Just like the Russians did.



posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 11:24 AM
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a reply to: Discotech




Not been much news on Ukraine in recent months so here's some fresh war porn for us all, it seems that Ukraine wants to reclaim Crimea and is building up their military in order to do this.
I wonder if they are considering asking Russia if they can use the new bridge in their invasion plans LOL



posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 11:24 AM
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That will be cold day in hell my friend....Putin wont give it back, and Russia will go to nukes if attacked by Ukraine......
its a done deal......



posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 11:27 AM
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a reply to: the2ofusr1

Your personal bias aside, do you think Crimea would be better off if they were taken back from Russia? I think it would be. Everything I've seen regarding Crimea since annexation has been bad. Russia used them for a port.



posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 11:27 AM
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originally posted by: bandersnatch
That will be cold day in hell my friend....Putin wont give it back, and Russia will go to nukes if attacked by Ukraine......
its a done deal......

Russia will never use nukes. They are NOT suicidal.



posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 11:35 AM
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a reply to: Vector99

Hard to say . No doubt that they have had to bite one type of bullet but unlike the Donbass they have far fewer new graves .Porky's got a 10% approval rating while the other chap has a 1 % approval and the ruling party gets a 13 or so % approval rating . Sounds like there are a lot of un satisfied people in the Ukraine and deciding to go to war over Ukraine doesn't seem like it will fix anything really quick . If the East can get a stale mate in their war ,imagine what might come out of this invasion .....probably lots of more dead bodies but no real end ...



posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 11:40 AM
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a reply to: the2ofusr1

Sadly that's way too true. Russia is even starting to recognize Donetsk and Lugansk as autonomous nations unofficially. Even though the real only separatists now are Russian nationalists. The locals there just want it over.

I honestly think this would be a good time for the US to move in quickly and retake Crimea, but at the same time let Russia keep the base in Sevastopol. I think Russia would actually welcome the situation to be honest. That is all they want in Crimea besides the landbridge



posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 11:46 AM
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It takes time to Train a proper SF unit that would be able to handle Russian force in Crimea.

The larger the force the longer it takes. These forces would also need some serious artilliry and air support. These would have to be properly trained to Coop With the ground forces.

If they have serious pland of retaking Crimea it would not happen for about 7 to 10 years from now.

But it would be a Waste of good Resources if you ask me. Russia would beat them Down badly.



posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 12:16 PM
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Crimea was "taken" by a democratic vote. Ukraine does not like that Crimeans would rather be under Russias umbrella, so they are going to send in military to force the Crimeans to join Ukraine?



posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 01:00 PM
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a reply to: MALBOSIA

That "democratic" vote was a very Russian controlled voting process, involving little green men...with guns.

Very few shots were fired because the Crimeans just wanted to keep on living as they did. They weren't receiving much government support prior, and now they are getting none from Russia.

I think the Tatar boycott of the vote is telling enough.



posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 01:25 PM
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a reply to: Vector99

I am not so sure that Russia has left them out in the cold with no support . They got the bridge .They got a temporary water supply .They got electricity with plans for more to come . They must be getting material support .So you could say that they are increasing while the Ukraine is decreasing . The IMF has put them on a drip life support system as far as money goes.Russia has started legal actions against them in British courts over failure to pay their debt . Investors in Ukrainian bonds had to take a big hair cut so trying to sell new bonds will be a big challenge to sell .

There are lots and lots of reasons to think that Ukraine proper may never get back to even half the country they once were .The physical fist fights are still going on in their Government institutions .Soon they will be loosing gas supplies and moneys for transit fees . The EU is forced to pick up the tab for gas that they are helping themselves to . Its really a mess IMO



posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 01:35 PM
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a reply to: the2ofusr1

It's one of those situations that only the people suffer. To Russia, USA, and Europe, it's merely territory and buffer zones. That is what upsets me the most.



posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 02:48 PM
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originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: MALBOSIA

That "democratic" vote was a very Russian controlled voting process, involving little green men...with guns.

Very few shots were fired because the Crimeans just wanted to keep on living as they did. They weren't receiving much government support prior, and now they are getting none from Russia.

I think the Tatar boycott of the vote is telling enough.


That is total BS. You really think that the Crimeans wanted anything to do with the western puppet coup in Ukraine?
Russia is building major infrastructure to help support Crimea since Ukraine cut the cord after the election.

"Very few shots were fired" ?? Ok buddy. Closer to none.

"A very Russian controlled process" ??? Well they did put on the referrendum. And the soldiers were there as was part of the agreement with Ukraine. There just wernt as many until Ukraine decided to bite Russias hand and lick the wests boots for the benefit of a few elite Ukraines and and at the expense of the rest of the Ukrainian people.

... that should get X's attention.



posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 03:09 PM
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Well Ukraine is likely feeling much better about its position. Not only with backing and aid from the West but, with China and Belarus defying Russian and making trade and defense deals. Joint weapons development with China and Belarus and Iran also wanting to increase ties mean Ukraine feels that its global support continues to grow while Russia's continues to shrink. And when Ukraine sees labor unrest starting in Russia itself that just makes it more confident that it is going to win the long game with Moscow. While it is unlikely Ukraine would move to liberate Crimea anytime soon, as Russia continues to decline it might wait until the right moment.



posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 03:17 PM
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a reply to: MALBOSIA

Keep getting your information from RT. Apparently unicorns grow in Crimea now thanks to Russia. But that has upset lil Kim and now he's threatening the US with nukes because they gave Russia Unicorn technology...

Back to the real world, if you followed the Vice documentary on the Ukrainian situation you might have a better outlook on it. Little green men and all...but they DEFINITELY weren't Russian, Putin said so.




And the soldiers were there as was part of the agreement with Ukraine.

THIS is how I know you love RT propaganda. Russian troops were allowed in the Sevastopol port, NOT outside it. But I assume you will deny that too even though it is what is written in the port contract.
edit on 27-2-2016 by Vector99 because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 03:22 PM
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a reply to: MrSpad


You are very much right about what you say, but you tell People about only the one side of the coin.



posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 03:22 PM
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a reply to: MALBOSIA




Russia is building major infrastructure to help support Crimea since Ukraine cut the cord after the election.


And it shows...


Crimea, many here are now realizing, could face years in limbo, no longer part of Ukraine but not yet fully absorbed by Russia. Crimeans’ dreams of becoming the next Sochi, the $50 billion showcase site of the 2014 Winter Olympics, have crashed right along with the oil prices that have delayed such megaprojects in Russia.

Shchyolkino, a collection of a few dozen squat apartment blocks with no natural gas connection, is particularly hard hit by the power failure, having a maximum of four hours of electricity a day and two of those in the middle of the night. But life is not particularly wonderful anywhere in Crimea right now.



Some stores get by without cash registers, and long lines snake out in front of any operational A.T.M.s. Without traffic lights, major city intersections are jammed. Highways are dark, too, so only in broad daylight can travelers see posters of Mr. Putin with the inscription: “Crimea. Russia. Forever.” Gasoline is in scarce supply, producing long lines of angry drivers in front of the few stations that have it.


www.nytimes.com...



"A very Russian controlled process" ??? Well they did put on the referrendum.


I guess you forgot this little interesting tidbit from Igor Girkin (Strelkov)...


Russian FSB colonel admits Crimean MPs forced to vote for referendum



Girkin has recently admitted at a Russian TV channel that only presence of Russian forces in Crimea made the so-called ‘referendum’ on Crimea annexation possible.



‘I had been in Crimea since 21 February. Only ‘Berkut’ sided the population. All other MIA bodies obeyed Kyiv and carried out Kyiv’s orders. Yes, they were reluctant to do it, BUT they continued obeying Kyiv and they didn’t follow the orders of the new authorities. Moreover, I, unfortunately, didn’t see any support of the state authorities in Simferopol, where I was staying. There was no support. Members of Parliament were gathered by the militants, who forced them into the hall to make them vote’, Russian FSB colonel and one of the leaders of so-called ‘Donetsk People’s Republic’


empr.media...

So yes it was.



And the soldiers were there as was part of the agreement with Ukraine.


And with that agreement there was this...

ericposner.com...



There just wernt as many until Ukraine decided to bite Russias hand and lick the wests boots for the benefit of a few elite Ukraines and and at the expense of the rest of the Ukrainian people.


Wrong Putin has already stated he sent troops to Crimea he never sent them into Crimea...there is a difference.


Russian President Vladimir Putin said Thursday that Russian forces had been deployed to Crimea last month to support local defense teams, the first time he has admitted such involvement by Russia.

Putin had repeatedly denied sending any forces to Crimea ahead of the March referendum there that eventually led to the region's annexation by Russia. Putin said the troops were deployed to protect Russian-speaking citizens in Crimea.


www.businessinsider.com...

But hey I guess selective memory works for you.



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