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Ted Cruz is NOT ELIGIBLE to be POTUS, nor is Rubio: Confirmed

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posted on Feb, 26 2016 @ 06:55 PM
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As per the definition used by the original framers of the U.S. Constitution, ratified on July 4, 1776, Republican Presidential Candidate Ted Cruz can in no way be eligible to hold the seat of President of the United States and should be considered nothing less than an illegal foreign entity attempting to breach and or ‘salt’ the White House via Canada and or Cuba.

In fact, not only was Rafael Edward Cruz, A.K.A. Ted Cruz, himself born outside of the U.S., but so was his father Rafael Bienvenido, making his campaign one-hundred percent null and void.

Sorry Ted if I crushed your pipe dream.

Indeed one could argue that Cruz doesn’t have to be born inside the U.S. to be president which is technically true, but this instance is only valid if Cruz’s father were to be a “natural born citizen” as laid out by the renown Emer de Vattel in his 1758 book Law of Nations. But that’s just it — Ted Cruz’s father was not a “natural born citizen,” fully disqualifying Cruz to be the next POTUS altogether. Make no mistake, Cruz is not an eligible candidate.

However, despite the evidence, Cruz tried desperately to circumvent this issue, in an attempt to hide it from the public by filing for a “renunciation” of his Canadian citizenship on May 14, 2014.

That’s right Cruz rejected his Canadian citizenship in 2014, when he set his sights on the White House.

Taking a look at the Constitution, ratified June 21, 1788, one can clearly see our forefathers intentions.

Article 2, Sec. 1, Clause 5 reads:

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

So what is a natural born citizen?

A top litigation attorney explains:

“A natural born citizen is one who is born of citizens — so a natural born citizen inherits his citizenship from his parents. Just as he inherits his eye color he inherits his citizenship. No provision in the Constitution makes him a citizen and no act of Congress makes him a citizen. Just as no provision in the Constitution or no act of Congress determines his eye color — it’s inherited from his parents — it’s in his blood.”


www.intellihub.com...

Go to the above source and read and watch the video, which explains more.

That should leave Trump in the Republican race.

Lets see if Congress upholds the Constitution in this case, if not, it will show how corrupt Congress is and all hope is lost for the United States.

So ATS what is your opinion about this?
edit on 26-2-2016 by Informer1958 because: (no reason given)




posted on Feb, 26 2016 @ 06:58 PM
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a reply to: Informer1958

I pretty much think that's all nonsense and both are eligible but never fear because Trump is clearly the GOP nominee, no more matter how much the GOP doesn't want him to be.



posted on Feb, 26 2016 @ 07:00 PM
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Does anyone really think these two guys would have bothered to run if their entire campaigns could be undermined so easily? Does anyone really believe that campaign analysts, advisers, and lawyers would have agreed to work with/support both if they'd be disqualified?

Big money is being thrown around on these two, and the people throwing the money employ very smart people...



posted on Feb, 26 2016 @ 07:00 PM
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If Obama was eligible then Cruz is, it's the exact same scenario.



posted on Feb, 26 2016 @ 07:02 PM
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originally posted by: avgguy
If Obama was eligible then Cruz is, it's the exact same scenario.


Obama was born in the USA, Cruz was not. It did not matter the nationality of Obama's parents, he still is a natural born US citizen.

Your video is someone who's membership of the Florida bar lapsed...
edit on 26-2-2016 by hellobruce because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 26 2016 @ 07:05 PM
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originally posted by: Informer1958
www.intellihub.com...


That source tries to use "Emer de Vattel in his 1758 book Law of Nations. "

The constitution was NOT based on that book!



posted on Feb, 26 2016 @ 07:07 PM
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a reply to: Informer1958

Did Congress or any other official body come out and say they are ineligible?

Unless they did this is just ranting on the internet.



posted on Feb, 26 2016 @ 07:08 PM
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a reply to: Informer1958

All Cruz would have to do is release the CRBA form and that would end all debate, as then he would be considered a natural born citizen. However, he has not, and thus this remains a controversy. The one thing here is that it has to be Cruz who provides said form, as he is still alive, and the State Department is not going to release it.


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posted on Feb, 26 2016 @ 07:10 PM
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Sorry to burst your bubble, but you're wrong. Cruz's mother was an American citizen at the time of his birth. Rubio is the perfect example of an "anchor baby" as he was born in Miami. That makes both of them natural born citizens. End of story. You can crow about this all you want, but it will go nowhere.



posted on Feb, 26 2016 @ 07:22 PM
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originally posted by: avgguy
If Obama was eligible then Cruz is, it's the exact same scenario.


No. It's not. But good try.



posted on Feb, 26 2016 @ 07:26 PM
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Rubio IS AN ANCHOR BABY THAT SMELLS LIKE AXE ,SWEAT AND ROBOT PARTS. CRUZ SMELLS LIKE BURNING HOLY WATER AND HILARYS PERFUME "PYRAMID SKEEM" .
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posted on Feb, 26 2016 @ 07:42 PM
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a reply to: MystikMushroom

Isn't it amazing how very simple truths such as you point out, simple truths available to anyone, simply fly on by people when hunting for conspiracies?



posted on Feb, 26 2016 @ 07:50 PM
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originally posted by: sdcigarpig
All Cruz would have to do is release the CRBA form and that would end all debate, as then he would be considered a natural born citizen.


Nonsense, birthers would just claim it was a forgery, exactly like they did with Obama's BC. Even though none of the people claiming it was a forgery ever examined it!



posted on Feb, 26 2016 @ 07:55 PM
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originally posted by: MystikMushroom
Does anyone really think these two guys would have bothered to run if their entire campaigns could be undermined so easily? Does anyone really believe that campaign analysts, advisers, and lawyers would have agreed to work with/support both if they'd be disqualified?

Big money is being thrown around on these two, and the people throwing the money employ very smart people...


I believe Cruz believes he can spin his way out of it because he is conservative and state that it is just the liberal media (bs conservatives have invented) trying to keep a good conservative down, you know the song and dance if you are honest...



posted on Feb, 26 2016 @ 07:57 PM
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originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: avgguy
If Obama was eligible then Cruz is, it's the exact same scenario.


Obama was born in the USA, Cruz was not. It did not matter the nationality of Obama's parents, he still is a natural born US citizen.

Your video is someone who's membership of the Florida bar lapsed...


More liberal media Bias lmao

Trump is here because of this conservative psychosis, liberal media bias lmao



posted on Feb, 26 2016 @ 08:04 PM
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a reply to: MystikMushroom

I think it's a calculated risk that requires a moderate "test" of the law. It is similar to the "test" of the same law that was seen when McCain, born a military baby in the US' Panama Canal Zone, ran 8 years ago... It was *believed* they'd win a challenge, but ultimately they had to know the challenge would happen at some point.



posted on Feb, 26 2016 @ 08:20 PM
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a reply to: Informer1958

I'd love to believe that, but I highly doubt it.



posted on Feb, 26 2016 @ 08:22 PM
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originally posted by: MystikMushroom
Does anyone really think these two guys would have bothered to run if their entire campaigns could be undermined so easily? Does anyone really believe that campaign analysts, advisers, and lawyers would have agreed to work with/support both if they'd be disqualified?

Big money is being thrown around on these two, and the people throwing the money employ very smart people...


Evidently, yes.

Because a book written before the constitution, declaration, bill of rights, and before the United States even existed says so.



posted on Feb, 26 2016 @ 08:24 PM
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a reply to: schuyler

I'd love to see the OP respond to this, but they likely won't.

The 14th amendment seems pretty freakin' clear on this for Rubio:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.


So that covers Rubio, citizen from birth. Natural born citizen.

According to the Immigration and Nationality Act § 301(g); 8 USC § 1401(g) a child is a citizen if their parent is a citizen that has spend at least 10 years in the US, 5 of which have to be after the age of 14. So long as Cruz's mother left the US after the age of 19, he's good to go.

Or is he?

According to the OP, "A natural born citizen is one who is born of citizens." For Cruz this means his mother needed to be a citizen at the time of his birth, which she was. Thus, Cruz is eligible anyway. Both because he didn't need to be naturalized and because by the OP's archaic definition, he was born of a citizen.

Keep trying Trump supporters, much like Hillary's 'scandals' you just have to keep throwing until something sticks.
edit on 26-2-2016 by links234 because: Coding.



posted on Feb, 26 2016 @ 08:29 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: MystikMushroom

I think it's a calculated risk that requires a moderate "test" of the law. It is similar to the "test" of the same law that was seen when McCain, born a military baby in the US' Panama Canal Zone, ran 8 years ago... It was *believed* they'd win a challenge, but ultimately they had to know the challenge would happen at some point.


Actually, McCain is the only one that was not legal. There is question on exactly what hospital he was born in. It may not have been a military hospital ---- and he was born before the date that declared children of military personnel on foreign soil are automatic natural born.

But, there was a government hearing of some kind that allowed him to be qualified. Obama signed it BTW.



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