Meet the B-21

a reply to: mbkennel

Makes sense to me.

These though had the quality of like when you look at a blacklight and it has that fuzzy appearance. Or like a light illuminating the inside of a shallow cloud clinging to the bottom of the craft. The whitish blue reminded me of the greyish blue the cursor was in the old DOS systems or when you safe boot your PC. Hard to explain. It didn't seem like "Normal" light.

a reply to: StargateSG7

There is also a ginormous flying flat diamond-shape
looking blimp I've heard about that can carry 1000 Tons
or more! I think that was an LMCO project and last I heard
that wind-caused instability upon landing and deploying
of heavy cargo was a BIG ISSUE! Not to mention some problems
with taking small arms fire such as those from 12 gauge shotguns ;-) :-)

a reply to: StargateSG7

Spot on with the green lady. The only thing I would change about the green lady's rendering is to make the engines smaller. She is a loitering platform after all. The rear should be a perfect straight trailing edge. Oh, and she's a very small bird. So downsize her in that rendition and you're good to go.

a reply to: StargateSG7

Damn! You're right about wichita too. She's a tiny bird also. The photos are deceiving. But yeah she's designed to be small enough to fit in a c130 or stored on an aircraft carrier. Personally I think she's a boondogle since thye had such an advanced platform but it was designed with poor foresight and uses last generation sensors and technology. More like a pet project some general insisted on having. She's a stop gap.

How do you know all of this stuff, just curious?

originally posted by: StargateSG7
a reply to: StargateSG7

There is also a ginormous flying flat diamond-shape
looking blimp I've heard about that can carry 1000 Tons
or more! I think that was an LMCO project and last I heard
that wind-caused instability upon landing and deploying
of heavy cargo was a BIG ISSUE! Not to mention some problems
with taking small arms fire such as those from 12 gauge shotguns ;-) :-)

Uh oh, you're not supposed to talk about that one. I'd talk about something else if I were you. Even mentioning THAT program is sketchy. I'm not touching that one with a ten foot poll no sir.

But seriously on the green lady make the engines smaller, efficient and more designed for long loitering at medium altitude over a target for up to 24 hours and you've nailed it

originally posted by: BASSPLYR
a reply to: StargateSG7

Spot on with the green lady. The only thing I would change about the green lady's rendering is to make the engines smaller. She is a loitering platform after all. The rear should be a perfect straight trailing edge. Oh, and she's a very small bird. So downsize her in that rendition and you're good to go.

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Am I finally getting it right?

See Green Lady Link:

files.abovetopsecret.com...

I am assuming the outer part of the wings fold up
so they can fit into storage/delivery platforms.
I didn't render that though...cuz I'm using
Coreldraw and not Maya 3D as my drawing program.
Maya takes too long to output and Corel I can do
fixes in minutes.

originally posted by: BASSPLYR
a reply to: StargateSG7

Damn! You're right about wichita too. She's a tiny bird also. The photos are deceiving. But yeah she's designed to be small enough to fit in a c130 or stored on an aircraft carrier. Personally I think she's a boondogle since thye had such an advanced platform but it was designed with poor foresight and uses last generation sensors and technology. More like a pet project some general insisted on having. She's a stop gap.

How do you know all of this stuff, just curious?

Try to imagine how many Philly Steak and Cheese Sandwiches
and shots of liquor it takes to become 250 lbs and no longer
fitting in either the cockpit or aft seat of an F18. Then imagine
HOW LONG it takes to piece together inebriated likely-exaggerations
of paper napkin drawings and who knows how many tall fish-tales it
takes to piece together word imagery from literally AT LEAST 50 to
100 people over many years. These are all guesses BUT i'm probably
right on a lot of them...I mean I do have SOME spookcraft and
reporter training so I think I MIGHT have some experience with
putting all the pieces together and writing a decent report or twenty!

I like to keep up with the times in UAV and black aircraft plus
I am a VERY BIG aircraft buff and my drone work is SECOND TO NONE !!!!

Example: Not even the US Military has Camera drones that carry
32 4096x2160 pixel cameras for 360-degree surround-view starting
at 60 fps and going up to 10,000 FPS+ with zoom lenses to die for
i.e. modified 1200 mm Canon/Sigma sports lenses (2x extender for 2400mm)

And they CERTAINLY don't have this software and view-screen combo:

4-screen portable 55 inch multi-4K display system:
files.abovetopsecret.com...

Fully-autonomous Flight control:
files.abovetopsecret.com...

I've seen the Predator/Reaper control stations...not impressed!

a reply to: StargateSG7

Yep! Seriously accurate. Man you might not want to post too many renditions if they all come that close.

originally posted by: BASSPLYR
a reply to: StargateSG7

Yep! Seriously accurate. Man you might not want to post too many renditions if they all come that close.

Which BLACK CRAFT had the underscoop intake
under it's nose (kinda like the Boeing JSF entry)
and which BLACK AIRCRAFT had the two
HUGE side scoops and the 45 degree
canting on the wing edges?

What was THAT FOR?

By that I mean WHY did they build those test beds?

a reply to: StargateSG7

I dunno, what?


When you say canted wingtips are you meaning up or down 45 degrees? Sounds like the F19 or something.

Hey I have a question we've been trying to figure this out for a while but no joy. why is the green lady green? She is but none of us can figure out whats causing it. Seems strange since she usually transits the sky at a slow enough pace that you can go inside grab your binocs, run outside and still have ample time to view her. Why draw attention to yourself. Personally I think the Green is an ECM like a laser to throw off enemy sensors and missiles.

What have you heard?

a reply to: BASSPLYR

This has canted tails...
www.youtube.com...

a reply to: BASSPLYR

The green glow is usually the corona from
a plasma sheathing ...OR... depending upon
WHEN and WHERE you saw it a phenomenon
called St. Elmos Fire (electrostatic discharge)

Some gasses and Barium contaminated
metals will glow green when superheated,
and sometimes Ammonium Chloride or
Barium Chlorate is sometimes used as
a catalyst in combination with other
oxidisers to ensure FAST and CLEAN
burn in a high-performance
unusual-fuel engine which then glows green.

Could be MULTIPLE causes for the green glow!

I can't tell you which one because I just don't know!

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In terms of unusual drone-like aircraft, I also know
of one without a vertical stabilizer that looks similar
to this kids drawing:

files.abovetopsecret.com...

This one tends to get seen in Ohio area probably from
Wright Paterson the giant scoops suggest to be a
slow but VERY fuel-efficient business-jet like
TURBO-FAN engine --- which would fulfil
long loiter time missions --- Based upon my
engine scoop calculations the ideal size for this
type of craft is about rough size of the X47 UCAV.

a reply to: StargateSG7

do you think the green lady and the Ohio drone are the same thing?

originally posted by: BASSPLYR
a reply to: StargateSG7

do you think the green lady and the Ohio drone are the same thing?

NO they are very different aircraft
with different sizes and shapes.
Green Lady is a high flyer while
the drone is a low flyer.

I also think the drone is a test bed
to test high fuel efficiency turbofans.

a reply to: BASSPLYR

Imo there's one reason in particular the green lady is green, boron.

a reply to: Bfirez

I like boron. is boron alkaline -able? if so I could think of two uses for it.

originally posted by: BASSPLYR
a reply to: Bfirez

I like boron. is boron alkaline -able? if so I could think of two uses for it.

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BoroCarbide --- High Heat reistance and EXTREME Ablation resistance!

Which means orbital or transonic aircraft aka SCRAMJET or ROCKET MOTOR!

a reply to: StargateSG7

yeah, I was thinking something different.

a reply to: StargateSG7

Are you also infering the use of NiB Nickel Boron Coatings
to reduce friction between metal surfaces?

or for Boron Anhydride and Boranes used in making
heat refractory materials which might be handy for
coatings OR for enhancing IR (Infrared/Heat) stealth

a reply to: StargateSG7

Forgot ONE MORE THING !!!....boron can also be
used to make a fuel more sensitive to ignition
ergo Boron-infused Liquid Methane (i.e. PDWE)

AM I GETTING CLOSE ????