Let's Get Ready To Rumble! GOP Debate

a reply to: MystikMushroom

Trump is criticizing Vicente Fox about the language he used about not paying for the wall? Hypocrite much?

Yeah, I was like WTF did he really just say that.

IMO he did horrible in this debate but than I though he did horrible in the last one as well.

Although their was hypocrisy all over the place from all the 3 stooges, Rubio, Cruz, Trump.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

I honestly am beginning to think people simply hate DC and the media just that much. They may not like Trump, but they hate them more.

BINGO! That's exactly why the Media, Republican Establishment, and government officials as a whole, are in an acute state of denial and disbelief.

Marco Rubio correctly states that one day, the Deficit is going to simply blow up in our face. Every Republican warns about this, but nothing is ever done. For years, people have complained about politicians making empty promises. They simply ignored us..and continued making empty promises. Now, here in 2016, the American people are done with the same old crap.

Obama promised change and people were suckered in by his smooth-talking diplomatic way of promising the stars. He didn't work out. Donald Trump promises lots of "great things" too. But unlike Obama, he's actually accomplished things that have helped millions of people earn a living. Americans are ready to give him a try. Donald may not work out either, but the alternative is Hillary. We know what she'll bring... just more of the same.

a reply to: carewemust

Marco Rubio correctly states that one day, the Deficit is going to simply blow up in our face. Every Republican warns about this, but nothing is ever done. For years, people have complained about politicians making empty promises. They simply ignored us..and continued making empty promises. Now, here in 2016, the American people are done with the same old crap

That the problem with Marco. He tells you everything you want to hear and does the opposite. Here is talking about empty promises , being done with the same old crap and the guy doesn't even show up to vote.

When he did vote it was to side with big gov't and the Oligarch

He is exactly what the people are disgusted with.

Rand Paul was the only one was the Sane one.
To bad he dropped out.

But seeing who were the Trump supporters majority of them looked as if they lived in caves.

originally posted by: TaleDawn
Rand Paul was the only one was the Sane one.
To bad he dropped out.

But seeing who were the Trump supporters majority of them looked as if they lived in caves.

LOL, that's the same thought I had while watching a Bernie Sanders rally. Either they came out of Caves or Homeless Shelters!

a reply to: interupt42

As horrible a candidate as Hillary is, if she actually does win, then it's a sure bet that no one's vote matters no matter what the numbers are, but I think the left is understanding that now with the primary process.

originally posted by: whyamIhere

originally posted by: EmmanuelGoldstein
a reply to: whyamIhere

I bet Trump already trademarked "Low Energy Jeb"

That title will end up in the history books for sure.

He bought Jeb's web domain.

I was wrong too. I thought the GOP would install Jeb as their Candidate.

When Jimmy Carter was President Iran was holding our hostages.

Reagan said "If I'm President and they don't release our people,

The bombing starts five minutes after I'm sworn in".

They released our people as he was being sworn in.

They Nation was really down. Reagan made us proud again.

Trump has some of that Reagan fight.

As a quick aside, the hostages were not released due to Reagan's inauguration, but due to Carter's efforts. Sigh.
Link

But negotiations for the hostages’ release started well before Election Day. In September 1980, the Iranians contacted the Carter administration with a proposal, according to Gary Sick, a Columbia University professor and the author of October Surprise: America's Hostages in Iran and the Election of Ronald Reagan.

The agreement that led to the release involved $11 billion to $12 billion in Iranian assets that Carter had frozen 10 days after the seizure of the U.S. embassy. Sick told us that the Iranians feared having to start negotiations over with a new administration and believed that they had extracted most of the benefits from holding the hostages.

Carter informed Reagan at 8:31 a.m. that the release of the hostages was imminent, according to a contemporary report in the New York Times. "The hostages, whose 14 months of captivity had been a central focus of the presidential contest last year, took off from Tehran in two Boeing 727 airplanes at 12:25 p.m., Eastern standard time, the very moment that Mr. Reagan was concluding his solemn Inaugural Address at the United States Capitol," its report says. Reagan announced the news at 2:15 p.m. at a luncheon with congressional leaders in the Capitol’s Statuary Hall. So Reagan, not Carter, got to bask in the glow of the hostages’ safe return.

Despite the showy announcement, scholars of the period say that Reagan did not play any significant role in freeing the hostages.

And thus History was misinterpreted. The laurels should go to Carter. Oh well.

- AB

a reply to: AboveBoard

I completely agree and it's obvious it was Carter's diligence and work. But try getting a Republican Reagan worshiper to believe that.

originally posted by: Teikiatsu

originally posted by: EmmanuelGoldstein
a reply to: interupt42

Have faith in Reason

Can I have faith that Bernie will die and/or disappear after saying more cryptic/mangled garbage grammar?

You better not get in the way of my healthcare, or that doctorate in finger painting that I want to pick up...

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: interupt42

As horrible a candidate as Hillary is, if she actually does win, then it's a sure bet that no one's vote matters no matter what the numbers are, but I think the left is understanding that now with the primary process.

Agreed.

originally posted by: angeldoll
a reply to: AboveBoard

I completely agree and it's obvious it was Carter's diligence and work. But try getting a Republican Reagan worshiper to believe that.

As hard as convincing an Obama worshiper what an un-American president he is, huh?

I think this debate, the Nevada Democratic Caucus and the 2016 election process in general is going to give American voters cognitive dissonance every bit as much - if not more so - than the 2000 election or the mostly hype "hope and change" promised by an Obama administration. It's all just bread and circus.

It's clear that reason doesn't matter. Or votes. All that matters is what power brokers want as orchestrsted by the farcical show of democracy in a fake two party system.

Last nights "debate" convinced me that American politics is a meaningless, surreal, adolescent, reality show mainly appealing to the "poorly educated" .....

How can anyone with any awareness at all, take it seriously?

a reply to: interupt42

Because they are not appealing to them on the issues but rather via a gimmick by speaking Spanish in a American Presidential debate. Its condescending in a way.Their are many educated English speaking Hispanics in this country.

Just now reading your discussion with introvert about the Spanish language bit.
I, too, am bilingual, and use both frequently. But I worked on the front lines in social services and hospitality with many dozens of residents who were NOT bilingual.

It isn't tacky pandering - it's evidence that Spanish is being mainstreamed.
I find it ironic that you would separate the bilinguals from the mono-linguals in an insulting way like that.

This country should be bilingual. Whether the number of Spanish-speaking residents rises or falls around immigration issues, fact is that Puerto Rico is a State. Those people are citizens. And furthermore, there are many thousands of legal residents and citizens who also do not speak English.

School children whose parents do not speak English are often put in the position of acting as "interpreter" for their parents in sensitive situations like dealing with medical issues, domestic abuse, employee abuse, CPS investigations, etc.
I didn't need an interpreter when adults needed confidential help; thus relieving the children of that burden. Same in hospitals. I attended the Cesarean birth of one family, and attended the oral surgery of a toddler at one point.

I was the supervisor of a staff of 75 only a handful of whom spoke English. I knew them, I knew about their families and situations, and was able to handle it. So YES, it is important for the government to be bilingual, and it is arrogant and ignorant to expect people who are here to learn English while they are struggling to survive at all.

All of this not to mention the fact that being bilingual opens one's horizons twofold. Many aspects of the Latin culture are wonderful. The Spanish-speaking countries of Central and South America are our neighbors in this continental duplex, and millions are our own citizens. FACT.

originally posted by: olaru12
Last nights "debate" convinced me that American politics is a meaningless, surreal, adolescent, reality show mainly appealing to the "poorly educated" .....

How can anyone with any awareness at all, take it seriously?

I've seen many debates in my life and last night was the WORST of them all. It wasn't even a debate and the" Moderators" were useless.

Trump, as interesting and outsider as he may be, his in fact brought the LEVEL of political debate to an absolute new low.

I can't support or get behind that. This is becoming exactly like the movie Idiocracy. If we're going to dumb down as a culture and like like stupid Americans, I don't want any part of it.

I think Trump has finally lost me

a reply to: Teikiatsu

Ownership though the government to control the production and distribution of private goods and services.

...which doesn't work. There's a reason there are business owners that oversee the production of private production. The more cooks, the worse the stew.

O M G
STILL with this lie? Still with this ignorant claim?

NO ONE is suggesting implementing that particular sub-definition of socialism. NO ONE.

We are talking about HEALTH CARE, and EDUCATION. Not factories and construction companies and hotels and restaurants and farms and car lots and supermarkets and everything else.
What in the hell is wrong with you that you don't get that?????

Political Troll is lying and spreading political disinformation. On Purpose.

Cruz makes my stomach churn.
I just saw the segment on health care.
Trump and Kasich have salient points.

Cruz is a demon asshole deluxe, and Rubio is like a smart-mouth adolescent. BOTH are like pissy children -
Talk about "ad hominem" attacks -

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

There was absolutely no need to ask 1 question in Spanish, that was just political pandering.

For those that speak only Spanish telemundo had the whole debate airing with translation and not just one question.


I came to America and I expected myself to embrace the American culture and English, not only because this country was willing to take me in but so I could further my education and success . I understand that not everyone can do that, my mother speaks very very little English.

Sorry but I think it was tacky and somewhat condescending. You want to reach me as a Hispanic voter talk to me about the issues , I will tune into telemundo if I can't speak english.

a reply to: interupt42

There was absolutely no need to ask 1 question in Spanish, that was just political pandering.

Yes, there was a need.
So that people who speak Spanish would not accuse anyone of 'misquoting' him. He said that. She translated it exactly.

I have been accused of not interpreting correctly when I know I did; and that can happen unless BOTH versions are stated clearly, and interpreted correctly.
It was perfectly appropriate.

Sorry, but this is now an absolute joke. Hillary must be laughing herself to sleep every night. Trump has drawn out both Cruz and Rubio (through desperation) and now they are acting like him. One was bad enough but with three of them acting like complete morons, one can only hope that Kasich or Carson will perhaps step in.

I never thought I would see people running for President act like this.

You'r a liar
No You're a liar
Com man!
Coward!
Sweaty!
Choker!
Oooo, look he's so nervous..

FFS its a total and utter embarrasment to the USA.
Enough with these THREE clowns.