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Ryan: House will block Obama’s Gitmo closing plan in court as well as in Congress

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posted on Feb, 24 2016 @ 09:51 PM
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Speaker of the House Paul Ryan says Republicans have the legal clout in court and the clout in Congress to get the recent Obama plan to close the Guantanamo Bay prison squashed.

I'm sure there are problems with bringing international prisoners to U.S. Soil.

Maybe the trial processes are different.

Not to mention the controversial issues with housing these types in U.S. Federal prisons.

Obama might just be doing political puppy-petting as usual anyway.


Ryan: House will block Obama’s Gitmo closing plan in court as well as in Congress



That should prove relatively easy, since transferring Gitmo detainees to the US remains illegal — under a law signed by Barack Obama. Paul Ryan promised a fight in both the legislative and judicial arenas to stop Obama’s latest iteration of his demand to shutter the detention facility at the Guantanamo naval base:



House Speaker Paul Ryan says Republicans are taking legal steps to stop President Barack Obama from closing the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

Ryan told reporters Wednesday that lawmakers have the votes to block Obama’s plan in Congress and enough votes to override any veto. Separately, the Wisconsin Republican said the GOP is “taking all legal preparations necessary” to ensure the prison remains open and terror suspects aren’t moved to the U.S.

Unilaterally Closing Guantanamo Bay Is ‘Against the Law’








posted on Feb, 24 2016 @ 10:03 PM
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Let's close Gitmo and send all the terrorists to Huntsville, TX...

My great state will gladly send them on a one way trip to meet their magic being in the sky who talks to 7th century sociopathic pedophiles.

-Christosterone



posted on Feb, 24 2016 @ 10:08 PM
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im trying to find a good reason to keep GB open. i cant think of one, its hard to defend the US when conservatives act like this and try to keep this nazi-like concentration camp open.

i feel like the only reason the house is against closing it is just to spite anything Obama does, even if the cause is good. such childish attitudes. even Dubya and McCain wanted to close GB.
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posted on Feb, 24 2016 @ 10:11 PM
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originally posted by: Christosterone
Let's close Gitmo and send all the terrorists to Huntsville, TX...

My great state will gladly send them on a one way trip to meet their magic being in the sky who talks to 7th century sociopathic pedophiles.

-Christosterone


Most of the supposed "terrorists" are innocent people who our government has patted themselves on the back for inflicting horrific torture upon.

GITMO is a stain upon this country and one that we will not ever live down. You remember all those wonderfully infamous photos that had been leaked.

You seem to have eaten the anti-muslim propaganda and sound like you would like seconds.

The true terrorists and pedophiles as well exist within the realms of the elite.

I would like nothing more than to see the good old boys of Texas help solve our little problem, in order for this to happen they need to be pointed in the right direction!


To the OP

Really getting tired of this nonsense. They use this issue to act as if there is division within their ranks.

Ultimately they all cower to the same rulers and nothing short of millions in the street will right the wrong that is GITMO.
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posted on Feb, 24 2016 @ 10:13 PM
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keep Gitmo as the American type of off-shore Devil's Island the French made famous/historic

besides any escapees would think they were in a time-warp with all the pre-1960s cars in Cuba....

 



the gutless wonders in our Legislative Branch ain't got the ' stuff' to buck the transvestite-lover in the oval office
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posted on Feb, 24 2016 @ 10:14 PM
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Can't shut it down before Trump stuffs it full.



posted on Feb, 24 2016 @ 10:19 PM
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Gitmo is a travesty.....
The prisoners are hardly big time terrorists....
The whole thing was a sick charade...played by people who really thought they had IMPERIAL power...
Its a sad hangover..............



posted on Feb, 24 2016 @ 10:23 PM
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i feel like the only reason the house is against closing it is just to spite anything Obama does, even if the cause is good. such childish attitudes. even Dubya and McCain wanted to close G


Well they also want their area where they can send people and bend the rules a bit to try and get info from them. GITMO needed to be shut down long ago, it flies in the face of what our nation stands for. Our constitution calls for due process, GITMO is not that.



posted on Feb, 24 2016 @ 10:24 PM
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Because a fundamental right laid out in our constitution just doesn't sit well with political expediency. Namely, due process.

Ex-Bush Official: Many at Guantanamo Bay Are Innocent, March 2009


Wilkerson, who first made the assertions in an Internet posting on Tuesday, told the AP he learned from briefings and by communicating with military commanders that the U.S. soon realized many Guantanamo detainees were innocent but nevertheless held them in hopes they could provide information for a "mosaic" of intelligence.

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Wilkerson told the AP in a telephone interview that many detainees "clearly had no connection to al-Qaida and the Taliban and were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Pakistanis turned many over for $5,000 a head."

Some 800 men have been held at Guantanamo since the prison opened in January 2002, and 240 remain. Wilkerson said two dozen are terrorists, including confessed Sept. 11 plotter Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who was transferred to Guantanamo from CIA custody in September 2006.

"We need to put those people in a high-security prison like the one in Colorado, forget them and throw away the key," Wilkerson said. "We can't try them because we tortured them and didn't keep an evidence trail."

But the rest of the detainees need to be released, he said.


I can't, for any logical reason, figure out why we would keep that place in operation.
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posted on Feb, 24 2016 @ 10:26 PM
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a reply to: Sremmos80

absolutely, they found a way to give the constitution the finger and hold the flag at the same time. hypocrisy at its maximum.



posted on Feb, 24 2016 @ 10:35 PM
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Couldn't the prisoners be stashed in Washington DC? That's not technically part of the United States, right?



posted on Feb, 24 2016 @ 10:37 PM
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Obama is doing something he ran on. It's hard to argue with someone keeping their campaign promise. Right or wrong he is doing what he promised before the election and I fully respect that.



posted on Feb, 24 2016 @ 10:47 PM
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originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
Can't shut it down before Trump stuffs it full.



Winter is Trumping. If there is an innocent man in there it's time to give them a day in court or get them out of there because you don't want to be a suspected terrorist under President Trump. The following video is both funny and true.

Winter is Trumping



posted on Feb, 24 2016 @ 11:05 PM
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a reply to: vjr1113

Here's a reason:
Five top Gitmo parolees who returned to terror

From USA Today :

About 170, or 30% of released Guantanamo Bay detainees have gone on to engage in terrorist activities, and many have been Killed, died in fighting or were rearrested, says Thomas Joscelyn, an analyst at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies.






www.usatoday.com...


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posted on Feb, 24 2016 @ 11:16 PM
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a reply to: buckwhizzle

yea thats a reason but not a good reason, theres plenty of murderers behind bars in legal prisons. the fact they were released from gitmo means the prison cant even deter future terrorists, so really its ineffective.



posted on Feb, 24 2016 @ 11:17 PM
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Maybe this is some sort of sacrificial lamb to be used as a bargaining chip for something else. I think Obama will give this up in exchange for something else he wants. If he was serious about closing it, he would have already done it - like he said (while campaigning in 2008) he was going to do on day one.

Maybe in exchange for Sandoval who is probably not as Republican as people think he is... That way the military industrial complex and neocons get to keep their torture boondoggle/ island getaway and Obama gets his Manchurian justice without the GOP looking like obstructionists.
Because they all bat for the same team, essentially.



posted on Feb, 24 2016 @ 11:42 PM
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originally posted by: Christosterone
Let's close Gitmo and send all the terrorists to Huntsville, TX...

My great state will gladly send them on a one way trip to meet their magic being in the sky who talks to 7th century sociopathic pedophiles.

-Christosterone


Here in Georgia as well. Most in prison dont take too kindly to pedophiles.



posted on Feb, 25 2016 @ 12:06 AM
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Sounds like they are falling into bama's trap. They are not very bright I see.

Man he is good.

"What you Republicans think we should just torture people and ignore the constitution?"

What a sleezball

They need to agree asap.


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posted on Feb, 25 2016 @ 05:07 AM
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a reply to: buckwhizzle

Oh, so torturing a person, and taking their liberty without due process or even decently probable cause, breaking their minds, doing the recruiters work for them, creating PTSD sufferers in an almost workmanlike fashion, is fine? All their actions from that point, are on them are they?

Utter twaddle. Cause and effect, action and unavoidable reaction.

The US pays to fund rebellion against the soviets in the eighties, and is surprised when their pawns turn against them after helping to bring them war. The US creates camps, to hide its misdeeds and mistreatment of human beings, and acts all insulted when those individuals seek vengeance after being made insane by barbarism.

Complete and utter hypocrisy. I hope everyone involved with Guantanamo Bay and the torture, and maltreatment of its residents, gets every ounce of what they have dished out to others, returned one thousand fold. Their sins against their fellow man cannot be excused by a lack of cultural understanding of right and wrong. They have no excuse.



posted on Feb, 25 2016 @ 05:58 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Right now they are not on US soil. The moment they are the constitution and its protections apply.

Secondly civilian court is not an appropriate venue anyways. Finally to those who keep bringing up liberties - Would you make the same argument during WWII? These individuals and the war on terror are no different than pows during any other war.

This is one of those areas where terror groups dont conform to the established international rules on warfare.
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