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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Boadicea
I'd truly love to see any evidence that ties Trumps racist BS comments to this very real tragedy.
Not your belief or whatever that this was what he was referring to. Actual connections, like some citation from Trump that refers specifically to this issue.
“If you go to Fusion, you will see a story: About 80% of the women coming in — you know who owns Fusion? Univision!” Trump told Lemon. “Go to Fusion and pick up the stories on rape. And it’s unbelievable when you look at what’s going on. So all I’m doing is telling the truth,” Trump told Lemon.
...Trump, who is a Republican presidential candidate, told Lemon he was pulling his facts from a Fusion article.
Trump said his information came from a Fusion article, but he apparently misread the story.
That story has been playing out for a week now, and the really truly horrible reality is that noone, except for perhaps Don Lemon - sorta -, has bothered to do any background on what Trump was talking about even when he specifically noted he was referring to an article in Fusion.
originally posted by: Logarock
a reply to: Gryphon66
I think is established fact that illegals can gain considerable aid from our safety nets.
So Where is the blame for those legal Americans, business, and corporations who are taking advantage of the system for every illegal they hire?
The high court ruling allows the state, and others, to penalize businesses that hire illegal immigrants.
The illegal immigration issue has been exploited by many different people for many different reasons. So much so that it's far too much to go into in this one thread -- or any single thread.
You should be disgusted.
The fact that we have made the immigration process so complicated complex and restrictive that women and girls are willing to submit themselves to the hazards of the Coyote Underground is utterly despairing.
Donald Trump won the Hispanic vote tonight in Nevada.
41% of Hispanic Republicans voted for Trump compared to 29% who supported Rubio.
originally posted by: galaga
originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: galaga
Didn't I specify in general?
WE? Who is we?
If you're born in Mexico, you are Mexican.
Yeah, pulling up your superior heritage.
I was not born in Mexico. I was born here in the USA. I already said we dont think of ourselves as superior. We just dont like to be called Mexican because we are not, We, my people, are Spanish New Mexican. How damn hard is it for you to understand that?
(Let's just forget as your first and subsequent articles prove ... that Trump's comments at his Jun 16th campaign announcement referred to rapists being sent here, and that the Fusion article has to do with rape that happens to women on the way here ... you found a link and that's all I asked for.)
Yeah, their are laws already out their to fine business that hire illegals. The problem is that they are seldom enforced and when they are its usually against the small fry and not the real culprits that are causing the issue in mass scale.
Some are surprised that Trump has any support from Hispanics. It was believed that Latinos would never support someone who has spoken so harshly about immigrants. Immigration is seen as a litmus test for many Hispanics. If you lose voters with harsh immigration rhetoric, the thinking goes, they won't bother listening to where a candidate stands on other issues.
That is also why they keep the people focused on everything else but the American companies that are benefiting from hiring the illegals which is giving them the incentive to come here.
It's the "small fry" that get busted because large corporations operating in the US don't have jobs suitable for unskilled, unqualified illegals.
I'd like to see an illegal immigrant who is a doctor, lawyer, engineer or someone else in a field that requires at least a masters degree...I'm sure they DO exist in tiny, minute numbers...but it's the low-paying entry level type jobs that no one else wants to do.
originally posted by: MystikMushroom
a reply to: galaga
It's actually pretty fascinating how horribly misunderstood the Hispanic minority segment is.
I quite literally saw someone's jaw drop when they met a "Mexican" from Mexico City who had blond hair and blue eyes. Americans...we're a funny and sheltered group.