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What You Should Know About Satanism

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posted on Feb, 23 2016 @ 07:30 PM
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originally posted by: Teikiatsu

originally posted by: Tiamat384
a reply to: Sublimecraft
Generally liking your posts did you not read the OP? It says that Satan isn't worshiped or believed in by practicing Satanists.


Irony being, that's what Satan wants.

Obviously not only what he wants, since many sects DO worship and believe in him. Are they doing it wrong? And how do you know what he wants?




posted on Feb, 23 2016 @ 07:34 PM
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a reply to: DisinfoCom

Not sure about Anton, but Crowley admitted before he died that he realized he had been deceived. And whether or not satanists believe he exists or not matters not, and he definitely does exist and that is why satanists do what they they do in a state of being deceived. It is almost a poetic end to a "belief" system that they don't even believe, but yet they have a religion of sorts they are actively practicing with beliefs and rituals that describe those beliefs.. Make sense for someone to do these things in that light?? Not at all, but it is what they do.
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posted on Feb, 23 2016 @ 07:55 PM
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Ah yes, the worshiping of the self. I've worked with literally thousands of people at this point in my life, and I've never met a single person worthy of worship, myself included -- I'm not that special. Humans truly aren't that big of a deal. I love them, but the only people I know who worship themselves typically have a diagnosis. Some call it Narcissistic Personality Disorder, but there are others as well.

Self-worship. heh. Some truly can't see past themselves. The best way to find yourself is to lose yourself.

But if there is nothing else to cling to...... have at it. Is it better than nothing? Probably not, but it's my mine to judge.



posted on Feb, 23 2016 @ 08:16 PM
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a reply to: Klassified

Ever met Lucian?

If you have, you'd never forget that feeling...



posted on Feb, 23 2016 @ 09:39 PM
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a reply to: DisinfoCom

Grand, a cult that worships greed and selfishness led by a dude who liked to put his eye in a pyramid hand formation. Sounds familiar
(I hope this picture works)

You should also ask his daughter why she disowned this wonderful man. He brainwashed women into worshipping his golden dick, women had to be naked while men were clothed. Sounds equality driven. Pics would be against conditions but feel free to find out for yourself. Its an illuminati mind control cult.

PS you dont have to be religious to hate satanism. They are hypocrites
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posted on Feb, 23 2016 @ 09:41 PM
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originally posted by: eisegesis
Satanism is a front like all other religions. Satanism is a false ideal and Satan isn't real.

I believe you are dead on about it being a front and the similarities to other religions are undeniable.

Although the statement that Satan isn't real is not even a remote possibility.

Scripture for starters would be enough to refute this...

Add to that literally thousands of eyewitness sources and the premise completely evaporates.

Anyone who studies the writings of former high level satanists, former shamans, ex-sorcerers, ex-witches, former voodoo priests, and occult grand masters, etc will find that this idea is not even remotely possible.

I have studied these writings for many years and the claims that "there is no devil" contradicts almost every single one of them.

Far too many of them have had face to face personal encounters with satan.

Unlike all those sources who agree with you, the sources I mentioned have no agenda to push.

Examples would be Ana Méndez Ferrell, Elaine Knost, John Ramirez, Daniel Mastral, Edward Caez, Bishop Samuel Kanco, Emmanuel Amos Eni, Iyke Nathan Uzorma, just to name a few.

If these sources seem dubious to you, just think for a moment about the sources that agree with you.

All of those sources that have pushed this type of nonsense on all of us our entire lives have no credibility and for me personally, I find this extremely telling.

This example is former witch Ana Mendez's testimony (@ 20 min.):


I had a visitation of Satan. He showed up like a beautiful angel, this angel of light this satan himself showed himself the way he really was, and suddenly he took his mask off and I saw the devil face to face and he said to me I have come here to claim you as my wife and you will be married to me. When I saw the devil I said I'm not going to be married to you. And he said there's no way out, I already own you you have signed a contract with blood and I own your soul and you are to serve me. And I said I will never marry you... well there's no way out I am your master and you will have to do whatever I ask you to do.

From that moment on there was a war that started, I was not going to submit to whatever he wanted me to do but a war started and he started to send demons to torment me. It was like feeling I was being ripped up from within, and the torment the pain, I would spend weeks just weeping and weeping tormented without being able to do nothing, just being under the foot of the devil for entire weeks, the pain in my soul was so strong... It was destroying everything around me. My family was totally torn into pieces...

Another example:


To doubt that Satan is active in our world is to close our eyes to a mountain of obvious evidence. Satan liked to show himself as Lucifer... one who had power and authority. He told me of his rebellion against God and how he seduced the angels. I was getting into Satanism deeper and deeper. Satan was using me and showing me things. He even showed me how to raise a very powerful demon that he said had not been served for hundreds of years. It was very hard to do but I was able to do it. He began to teach me some things from a book that he'd materialized. The whole spiritual thing seemed real and exciting. I got insight into why man does the things that he does.

I began to develop what seemed like a close relationship to Satan. I had power and wasn't afraid at all. He told me he could make things appear as he had done with that book. I was amazed. He said that that was nothing. He had power to effect transformations with humans. "What is transformation with humans?" I asked. He replied, "I can change humans into animals or visa versa!" I laughed and suddenly, he changed me into a panther.

www.insightsofgod.com...


Why would the Devil want us to believe he doesn't exist?

Because their can be no God if there is no Satan.



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posted on Feb, 23 2016 @ 09:47 PM
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a reply to: Sublimecraft




In any event, irrespective of whether Satan, the biblical individual, is venerated or not by Satanists or others, I have studied exorcisms for many years and the fact remains that the biblical individual known as Satan is predominant surrounding this phenomena and is as real to the Priests exorcising and individuals suffering from possessions as the air we breathe.


What fact? This doesn't prove anything beyond your opinion that Satan is real..



posted on Feb, 23 2016 @ 09:50 PM
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a reply to: SargonThrall

Another who hasnt read the Satanic Bible. It is not the worship of greed. Or selfishness.



posted on Feb, 23 2016 @ 10:00 PM
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a reply to: DisinfoCom

I do know people that are Satanists, a couple. Old friends. I am no Christian (not anymore) and so I will take your point with some of the representations. I do have a problem with a philosophy that basically says do whatever you want no matter who it hurts; which is, what those Satanists that I know espouse. I will also say, that the guy... Well, not a nice guy. Not a nice one before he ah.... found religion (he was an atheist before), and certainly not a better one after. I keep my distance these days. If he is indicative of the type of person Satanism attracts (and honestly, I think that he is) then it is just as bad as you say it isn't, although maybe just not quite in the way the bible says it's bad. Devil is in the details though I suppose (ah ha, ah ha ha).



posted on Feb, 23 2016 @ 10:04 PM
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originally posted by: NateTheAnimator
a reply to: Sublimecraft




In any event, irrespective of whether Satan, the biblical individual, is venerated or not by Satanists or others, I have studied exorcisms for many years and the fact remains that the biblical individual known as Satan is predominant surrounding this phenomena and is as real to the Priests exorcising and individuals suffering from possessions as the air we breathe.


What fact? This doesn't prove anything beyond your opinion that Satan is real..


What's to prove? The truth speaks for itself.. If you have the wherewithal to put the truth to real use, or sweep it under the rug of denial is a choice, not a matter of belief. Discernment of facts and evidence which includes testimony. Knowing how to discern what is rubbish and what is truth is a gift everyone has, but only if they exercise it.

Simply waving a hand and rolling the eyes of denial doesn't make it untrue.



posted on Feb, 23 2016 @ 10:11 PM
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a reply to: Tiamat384
Ah, thank you for making assumptions about me. I have read it, I've read most religious texts. It's about worshipping the self, getting away with whatever you can, gluttony, putting yourself before everyone else. That is the epitome of selfishness.



posted on Feb, 23 2016 @ 10:13 PM
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a reply to: SargonThrall
Why you're quite welcome. Not true at all. It isn't about putting yourself before everyone. Find me a line saying so.



posted on Feb, 23 2016 @ 10:27 PM
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I'm not sure that it's about worshipping the self, more taking personal responsibility and attempting to push past limitations without ascribing it to an act of God. It's mostly humanism in its philosophy from what I can tell.

If satan exists as an individual entity instead of an archetype the most likely explanation is because christians created and manifested it. They certainly focus more energy and belief into it than anything any group of atheistic satanists ever did.

I view it as the Emanuel Goldstein of the dark ages that the church used as cover while everything they accused everyone else of doing in Satan's name was already being carried out under their own banner.



posted on Feb, 23 2016 @ 10:27 PM
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a reply to: Tiamat384
The very intro, are you blind?



There is no altruism or love-thy- neighbor concept in the Satanic religion, except in the sense of helping other adherents of the Black Path to gain their desires by gr oup energy. Satanism is a blatantly selfish, brutal religion. It is based on the belief that man is inherently a selfish, violent creature, that life is a Darwinian struggle for surviv al of the fittest, that the earth will be ruled by those who fight to win the ceasele ss competition that exists in all jungles—including that of urban societies. On that score, the Church of Satan ma y be justly criticized, although even its critics will have to admit that its philosophy is based on logi c and real conditions that exist in the world



posted on Feb, 23 2016 @ 10:32 PM
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posted on Feb, 23 2016 @ 10:34 PM
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a reply to: Klassified


I'm reading this:


It says that Satan isn't worshiped or believed in by practicing Satanists.


The greatest damage Satan can do to the mortal man is convince us that he doesn't exist.



posted on Feb, 23 2016 @ 10:35 PM
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originally posted by: Murgatroid

originally posted by: eisegesis
Satanism is a front like all other religions. Satanism is a false ideal and Satan isn't real.

I believe you are dead on about it being a front and the similarities to other religions are undeniable.

Although the statement that Satan isn't real is not even a remote possibility.

Scripture for starters would be enough to refute this...

Add to that literally thousands of eyewitness sources and the premise completely evaporates.

Anyone who studies the writings of former high level satanists, former shamans, ex-sorcerers, ex-witches, former voodoo priests, and occult grand masters, etc will find that this idea is not even remotely possible.

I have studied these writings for many years and the claims that "there is no devil" contradicts almost every single one of them.

Far too many of them have had face to face personal encounters with satan.

Unlike all those sources who agree with you, the sources I mentioned have no agenda to push.

Examples would be Ana Méndez Ferrell, Elaine Knost, John Ramirez, Daniel Mastral, Edward Caez, Bishop Samuel Kanco, Emmanuel Amos Eni, Iyke Nathan Uzorma, just to name a few.

If these sources seem dubious to you, just think for a moment about the sources that agree with you.

All of those sources that have pushed this type of nonsense on all of us our entire lives have no credibility and for me personally, I find this extremely telling.

This is former witch Ana Mendez's testimony:


I had a visitation of Satan. He showed up like a beautiful angel, this angel of light this satan himself showed himself the way he really was, and suddenly he took his mask off and I saw the devil face to face and he said to me I have come here to claim you as my wife and you will be married to me. When I saw the devil I said I'm not going to be married to you. And he said there's no way out, I already own you you have signed a contract with blood and I own your soul and you are to serve me. And I said I will never marry you... well there's no way out I am your master and you will have to do whatever I ask you to do.

From that moment on there was a war that started, I was not going to submit to whatever he wanted me to do but a war started and he started to send demons to torment me. It was like feeling I was being ripped up from within, and the torment the pain, I would spend weeks just weeping and weeping tormented without being able to do nothing, just being under the foot of the devil for entire weeks, the pain in my soul was so strong... It was destroying everything around me. My family was totally torn into pieces...


Why would the Devil want us to believe he doesn't exist?

Because their can be no God if there is no Satan.



If there can't be a possibility of a God without satan then God can't be omnipotent. Either God is omnipotent or its not God in the way religion characterises it.



posted on Feb, 23 2016 @ 10:35 PM
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a reply to: SargonThrall

No I am exhausted. Arent you kind. Provide a link for your source. Not that I dont trust you, but....no thats it.



posted on Feb, 23 2016 @ 10:36 PM
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I don't give a crap about Satan vs Christ. I just want to know where we are going from here. War, that's between them.



posted on Feb, 23 2016 @ 10:37 PM
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a reply to: Teikiatsu

He doesnt. Of course I dont believe in these religions at all so..



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