Alabama GOP Proposes Frightening New Way To Intimidate Abortion Providers

Well hey, its Alabama law soon. So just stay out of Alabama if people don't like the laws. And hopefully the Death Penalty is required to be enforced in every state by the Federal government. If killing unborn defenseless children is the progressive thing and protected by Federal law, so too should the mandated death of some of the nation's most horrible criminals be Federally protected and enforced on every state.

a reply to: AmericanRealist

Actually it isn't an a law soon. It's just a proposal. It may not even end up being voted on.

a reply to: AmericanRealist

Pro life and pro death penalty.

Nope, no disconnect there.

WRONG!

"Actual percentage of U.S. abortions in "hard cases" are estimated as follows: in cases of rape, 0.3%; in cases of incest, 0.03%; in cases of risk to maternal life, 0.1%; in cases of risk to maternal health, 0.8%; and in cases of fetal health issues, 0.5%. About 98.3% of abortions in the United States are elective, including socio-economic reasons or for birth control."

a reply to: Tempter


so you admit, that sometimes the best advice the doctor can give a women is to terminate the pregnancy???
so where am I wrong????

www.theguardian.com...

there's five cases just in that story where the best option was to bring a quick end to their pregnancy...which since it wasn't done (because catholic hospitals can treat pregnant women as crappy as they like), we can see some of the results of ignoring the need to terminate.

a reply to: interupt42

Oh my, what would I do without you to tell me how to think.

FACTS: Conservatives like to pretend there is no war on women, so PoliticusUSA developed a running list of legislation to prove that there is indeed a war on women. The proof is in the policy, and policy trumps words.

Included in Hrafnkell Haraldsson’s monthly updates to the “Dirty Thirty” (a list of egregious legislation proposed or passed) is a surreal list of legislation that proves the war on women is very real.

www.politicususa.com...

hey if they get tax payer money witch they do ...then all there info should be available to the tax payer.

a reply to: sweets777

there are only a few circumstances were abortion it taxpayer funded, one of them is the preservation of the mother, are you against protecting the health and wellbeing of the mother? but well, for all those healthcare providers that get taxpayer money (including those catholic hospitals), sure let's force them to reveal all their information... and why stop there, there's plenty of businesses that get taxpayer money also, probably even a few mcdonalds... Let's see all their information, including the breakdown of their wages and salaries they pay out. I want it detailed enough to know how much they get from the gov't, the percentage of the difference between the highest employees and the lowest. I want to know each employees family size and if they are the sole wage earner for that family, so I can estimate the percentage of families our taxdollars are supporting so the upper managers and ceos can enjoy those insane salaries!

If they don't want to provide this information, well, they can just forfeit the taxpayer funding.. they same goes for charity organizations, religious or not, non profits, ect.

And I think its a good idea for a doctor to tell me the procedure ..the risks both
mentally and physically .

okay, but don't you think that it's also a good idea for him to tell you the risk of not doing the procedure also? ya, let's force all the doctors to discuss the risks of carrying a pregnancy to term along with the risk of terminating the pregnancy!! heck we can't even force a catholic hospital to discuss the alternatives for when a miscarriage goes south, no, they have every right to just force the women to suffer, develop infection, heck one girl was dialated with a good part of the embrionic sac hanging out!! all in the name of religious freedom!!! ya know that christian religion that everyone's always saying is being persecuted!

This is my views, as a women, abortion should never be funded by tax payers, it should always be a private matter between parties involved including the chosen doctors, the government and religious right should stay the hell away from this issue because actually is none of their business or anybody business to legislate women rights to their body.

End of story.

originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: interupt42

Oh my, what would I do without you to tell me how to think.

Gotcha,

So pointing out Hillaries BS , hypocrisy,conflict of interest and lack of a track record in fixing anything as my reasoning for why she is a horrible choice to represent women is telling you how to think,

FACTS: Conservatives like to pretend there is no war on women, so PoliticusUSA developed a running list of legislation to prove that there is indeed a war on women. The proof is in the policy, and policy trumps words. Included in Hrafnkell Haraldsson’s monthly updates to the “Dirty Thirty” (a list of egregious legislation proposed or passed) is a surreal list of legislation that proves the war on women is very real.

First I'm not a republican , I'm a libertarian and actually think that a democrat (Sanders) might be the best outcome of this cesspool of candidates we have to pick from.


Secondly, even if there was a war against women which their is not (the real war is between the .01% and Oligopolies versus and the middle-class and consumers) why would you still support Hillary?

She has conflict of interest,has been caught lying, is currently being criminally investigated , has a history of bad judgement at best, and claims to have taken on the industries of Healthcare,oil,and lobbyist which she clearly has failed at , because they are ALL still a Cluster F.

Let me ask you this than:

Why do you think that the best we can do is to elect someone who is being criminally investigated by the FBI, has been involved in numerous scandals, has been caught in blatant lies, and has conflict of interest with the same people she claims she is going to fight?

a reply to: mOjOm

I wouldn't know I have never had one.

a reply to: interupt42

I bought a Bernie shirt because I support him. So you assume a lot. But, the election is a long ways off. And, I will make a political vote if I have to by voting for a woman, even Hillary. Don't like it, do something about it.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

You mean personal responsibility like when you raise a child after getting pregnant? Abortion isn't about responsibility its about avoiding responsibility. Also your support of abortion because of its legal standing is pretty funny considering your stance on some other issues.

ETA: From you its "Socialism is the best! we need socialism! its our duty to help the less fortunate!" unless they are unwanted children....

a reply to: NihilistSanta

Actually abortion can be the responsible thing to do. Abortion isn't absolutely always shirking responsibility and it is dishonest to pretend it is. I'm going to ignore the rest of your post though.

ETA: From you its "Socialism is the best! we need socialism! its our duty to help the less fortunate!" unless they are unwanted children....

If you have a means to adequately take care of children the parents didn't want, I'm all ears. But as it stands we already can't get all the babies put up for adoption into proper homes as it is, let alone force tons more to do it.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Of course you are because it points out your hypocrisy. Sure it CAN be the responsible thing but you are already aware of that since another poster posted the data showing how teeny tiny a percentage of all abortions fall into that category. I mean its scientific data you wouldn't be opposed to that would you? You wouldn't place value judgements on data would you dear old Krazysh0t? That would be unscientific and we all know how very scientific you like to appear.

a reply to: NihilistSanta

Actually I'm talking about in more cases than just that. If the parents don't have the means to take care of the child, or the parents are irresponsible people, or any other number of circumstances that would result in the child growing up in a broken home can be viewed as a responsible thing to do for the parents to have an abortion. It's not your decision to make though. It's the parents' decision. I haven't had to make that decision because I know how to use protection. But I know not to impose MY morality into any couples' decision making process.

originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: interupt42
I bought a Bernie shirt because I support him. So you assume a lot.

I didn't assume anything. Our argument was about Hillary you were the one that assumed that I was a republican.

But, the election is a long ways off. And, I will make a political vote if I have to by voting for a woman, even Hillary.

LOL, It sounds silly to try to justify her as a valid candidate doesn't it hence the deflection.

Also if your reason to support her is because she is a women as you state, than that is Sad really sad.

Could you clarify on your voting logic based on gender,color,weight,height,and race.

Should only overweight,ugly, white women vote for her or should all women vote for her ?

Don't like it, do something about it.

Ok tough guy/gal meet me at 2pm on political mud pit, LOL? Really , LMAO!

Its ok , I'm fully aware and have come to accept that voters as yourself that are willing to support a candidate being criminally investigated and with a history of lies are the majority.

Its the reason why this country is riddled with corruption and B$, good work keep it up. Nothing better than supporting a proven liar and a candidate that is being criminally investigated, those are some high standards.



Again and As I stated in my previous post , the republicans are hypocritical when it comes to many issues including this abortion bill but so are the Democrats. Both party want the same thing : Bigger gov't , less privacy,lobbyist friendly regulations, and more taxes for the middle class.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

There are many elderly who can not support themselves. Should we begin euthanasia? is that the responsible thing?

a reply to: NihilistSanta

The elderly have places where they can be taken care of. It's a whole industry actually.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

So if a parent beats a child the government should get involved. Parent chooses to kill the child before birth government should be hands off?

a reply to: Krazysh0t

That doesnt answer the question. There is a whole industry to support adopted and fostered children.

a reply to: NihilistSanta

The government isn't hands off when it comes to abortion though. It's a heavily regulated industry.