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Are Trump or Hillary really unstoppable? are they going to push USA deep into WWIII?

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posted on Feb, 22 2016 @ 04:54 PM
The Peace of God to all that belong to the Light,
Dear Readers,

In any epoch the election of the President of the USA is important in the international arena, but in the current context of generalized
conflict in which we are living could be a key factor to help the world to move on out of the crisis we are experiencing or to the contrary
to transform it in something even worst.

It is clear that two candidates right now represent political trends that if they become the official international policy of the USA , in case they arrive to power may accelerate the speed we have right now toward a terrible collision with the Muslim world and also with Russia.

The two candidates are:

Donald Trump whose anti-islamic and anti-Latin American feelings could put USA in a situation several times more complicate than nothing we have seen before. We must understand that we can't be successful against ISIS if we are isolated in our own continent of if the Arab world is all supporting those terrorists.

In the Democratic side if Hillary Clinton become elected she is a sure huge conflict with Russia for the fight over Ukraine. This is also a critical issue, since the most resources we have distracted in Ukraine the less we have to fight our truly problem, the one that can create us more damage: ISIS and Alqaeda.

There are then no hopes that we can avoid to sink in WWIII?

I feel there is hope and it remains in the decision of the people to look of options, look for other political alternatives:

In the Republican side it is clear that only Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio have the strength to stop Trump, and the longer Kasich and Carson try to remain the race the farther Trump can continue moving forward winning primaries for just relative majority and not absolute majority.

Now, in the Democratic side it is several times better to deal with a mild pink democratic Socialism proposed by Senator Bernie Sanders that at least is not going to push us toward a nuclear Armageddon against a country everybody knows there is no way we can win a war against: Russia, than to look for another formidable rival, that has our same common enemies, to fight with.

The thread is opened to the members interested in to continue exploring all the implications in geopolitics that the decision the American people will take in November will carry out not only for the country but for the world.

Please remain in the topic, that is not the general election but the international policies of the candidates, and feel free to reply but respecting the codes of decorum in the communication.


The Angel of Lightness
edit on 2/22/2016 by The angel of light because: (no reason given)

posted on Feb, 22 2016 @ 05:05 PM
Hillary has been chosen as figurehead. There is no fighting it and our elections are a scam. The inclusion of a communist, in the fiction that is our election process, is nothing more than a test to see how the indoctrination of our youth is working. It seems to be working really well for them, too. There will be no 2024 election, the dream is lost.

posted on Feb, 22 2016 @ 05:10 PM
a reply to: The angel of light

Doesn't really matter.. their only puppets
for higher powers!

WWIII is only to scare the people ...

I'm over it ..

posted on Feb, 22 2016 @ 05:11 PM
The easy answer is yes & yes.

If we are still talking about your thread title.

President Clinton it is then.

posted on Feb, 22 2016 @ 05:12 PM
a reply to: The angel of light

I'm curious:

Why did you feel the need to put this in the 2012 forum?

posted on Feb, 22 2016 @ 05:19 PM

originally posted by: TerminalVelocity
a reply to: The angel of light

I'm curious:

Why did you feel the need to put this in the 2012 forum?

Ditto. Distracting!

posted on Feb, 22 2016 @ 05:22 PM
There should be option to vote no vote and if they win we get new ppl to check out.

posted on Feb, 22 2016 @ 05:27 PM
a reply to: Jefferton

Sorry, indeed the observation is valid, this is a thread that is really intended for the world war three forum.

The avatar of the forum miss leaded me to think it was something different than what it is.

Thanks anyway for the warm welcome to the thread in this forum.

The only way to link it with 2012 is perhaps since the current world crisis started in the time of the galactic alignment when Ukraine experienced a coup d'état changing the sphere of influence in that country, that was at the end of 2012, and later an invasion of Russian troops to Crimea in early 2013.

Now, with all respect, to don't vote is definitively the worst choice, that is not even an option to consider, since if the next President happen to be a mad person or an irresponsible politician with no truly valuable career in public service we are all going to pay the consequences.

By the way it is a huge mistake to think that Democratic Socialism is the same than Marxist Socialism, they are completely different political ideologies, one is based on the role of the state as moderator of the economy and the other is a totalitarian current of thinking.

Communism has nothing to do with the Kind of Socialism right now is being promoted by Bernie Sanders, think just on this: There are western countries that have been ruled by democratic Socialist parties with robust market economies like : France, Germany, Spain and Italy.

The Angel of Lightness

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posted on Feb, 22 2016 @ 07:27 PM
a reply to: rigel4

Do these "higher powers" have names?

posted on Feb, 22 2016 @ 07:31 PM
There will be no WWIII, there will only be our last war. Calling it WWIII gives it comparison to the previous wars, and the last war will be incomparable. Let's stop calling it WWIII, and start calling it what it is, the LAST WAR.

As to whether Hilary, Obama, Putin or any of the idiots we presently call leaders will cause the last war then I don't think so. They will simply be unable to stop it. Sad really, but there it is.

posted on Feb, 22 2016 @ 07:34 PM
a reply to: Xcathdra

Never do that's just a term someone uses when they are clueless. See works like this the powers that be have complete control of everything so lack if evidence becomes proof they exist. Because ad we know these all powerful people would never allow people to figure out who they are. This is perfect for conspiracy theories don't need proof and others throw stars at you.

posted on Feb, 22 2016 @ 07:37 PM
WWIII will occur if WE don't STOP this INSANE foreign policy the current IDIOT runs.
Hillary will cause a war I HAVE NO IDEA what any of the other guys will do.
I don't listen to promises anymore.
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posted on Feb, 22 2016 @ 09:11 PM
Hey recognize a similarity at all? Mannerisms?


The guy is a total loon.
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posted on Feb, 22 2016 @ 10:26 PM
a reply to: The angel of light

Senator Sanders is exactly as much of a totalitarian Marxist as Franklin Delano Roosevelt or Dwight Eisenhower.

He's a Social Security kind of socialist, not a eye-popping bearded fanatic with a Kalashnikov socialist.

It was radical Bolsheviks who co-opted the 'socialist' business--as socialism 120 years ago, and still today, has some real appeal because of serious problems in the world.

Bolsheviks took on "hey we are socialists", (like Nazi aka "national socialists") because democratic socialism was popular. Their disruptive and evil ideologies took the exterior form, without any of the true, deep, interior humanity, ethics and justice at the center of the good side of socialism was.

The right has successfully slandered and libeled non-Communist and non-Nazi socialists as being trivially different, when they are as different as saint and demon.

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posted on Feb, 22 2016 @ 11:59 PM
a reply to: mbkennel

Doesn't it seem when people disagree that the opisition become satin or nazid ? We even see countries doing it someone had an opposing view they become Nazis. These terms no longer have any meaning in society. Racist has moved in to that tank as well when these terms start getting batted around tells you they don't have the ability to argue their point.

posted on Feb, 23 2016 @ 12:07 AM
This thread's title asks two questions which no man or woman can answer at this time. What's the point of asking them?

posted on Feb, 23 2016 @ 04:05 AM
Maybe we shouldnt have started this crap. Then we wouldn't be stepping in it.

posted on Feb, 23 2016 @ 04:08 AM
a reply to: cavtrooper7
Sorry he couldt clean up fast enough after the texas trash left office.

posted on Feb, 23 2016 @ 04:34 AM

originally posted by: JohnthePhilistine
Hillary has been chosen as figurehead. There is no fighting it and our elections are a scam.

I've been stating this, all along ...

Trump is one of the elite ... think this guy doesn't know, he won't be "allowed" to be president? He's probably one of the electorate, he knows.

Hillary, this is a woman who used "defaming" her own Husband, as a spring board to political fame. She's as low as they can get ... you think she's going to do anything, but ride the US straight to hell?

Take a back seat, and watch ... it's going to be a HELL of a ride.

posted on Feb, 23 2016 @ 10:11 AM
a reply to: CaptainBeno

Of course the similarity is not just a mere coincidence, the policies that Donald Trump is pushing in his campaign are typically in the core of what is called the Fascist ideology in History:

1) To claim that the social problems of a country are caused by certain ethnic minorities, a classic distraction sophism to hide the fact that the real problem is that the Global economy is not working anymore that the crisis that have brought to the world are inherent of that system.

2) The claim that we are going to force other countries to work for us or to even transform borders in barricades, as Hitler did with Normandy that was full mined in order to isolate France from the arrival of English and American troops, or with the Polish Ukrainian Russian Border transformed in the worst front of WWII.

3) The claim that a person is going to remove citizenship to certain individuals that have it since birth is exactly in the same line of action of what Hitler did with the Gypsies, Jews, homosexuals and any kind of minority he wanted to eliminate.

4) The claim that all the economic establishment is corrupt and also that must be removed in order to rebuild the economy in hands of a political movement is also what Hitler did when he systematically expropriated goods from the Jewish Community in each country he occupied.

Only some body absolutely ignorant of History may not see that this man is moving a NeoNazi agenda.


The Angel of Lightness
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