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You mean culture.
originally posted by: MALBOSIA
originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: DisinfoCom
Man. It's just a shame that a bunch of fellas calling themselves patriots wrote some crap down on a piece of "paper" that secured your right to carry a soviet flag and scream Soviet names out in a fit of teenage angst.
It's a shame a bunch of guys who thought the promise of America meant not wearing chains and working for free so somebody else could reap the benefits of your work.
It's a shame we live in a country where many view non-conformist ideas and speech as the very fabric of the term patriot.
I congratulate you, sir, on being such an incredible patriot that you so willingly use the rights given to you to rail against the country you reside in. May you carry on with your patriotic endeavor for all your lifetime.
Except people do work for less than what a good life costs so others can live a godly life with servants.
And expressing his non conformist personality is what got him kick out of the program and likely hindered him from many of the possibilities that are open to only those that are conformed. Maybe he didnt end up in chains but he will also likely never be allowed off the sidelines.
The problem is people are more afraid of the truth then they are
the real mobnsters.
Nothing else you said changes the fact that many people view voicing a dissenting opinion as the very definition of patriotism.
originally posted by:Boadicea[/post]
"True" patriots are the FIRST to call out their government critters for violating the letter and spirit of the nation and its laws. Patriotism does not mean one always approves of government actions or believes that because a critters say so that it's true or good or right.
originally posted by: Stormdancer777
Who in their right mind would want a weak nation that cannot defend its-self, or its people?
Take a good look at what is happening around the world.
Propaganda is used by both sides. Why would a citizen propagandist want to weaken their nation?
There are just to many layers to this onion.
originally posted by: woodwardjnr
Nationalism and religion are the 2 biggest dividing forces left on global society. 2 things most of us have had little to no choice in.most people had no choic where they were born or what religion they follow. We still see how on ATS we have members who take credit for what their nation did in history, while editing out the bad parts.
originally posted by: Stormdancer777 Take a good look at what is happening around the world.
No, I don't mean culture. I mean everyone, no matter what their race, creed or color... no matter what they celebrate... no matter where they live or work or play or love.
As long as they are considered a citizen of the nation-state you preside in, right?
I'm just curious as to what your definition of patriotism encompasses...
The truth is so abhorrent to many people that they will embrace tyranny rather than take responsibility, or even recognize for what they brought down upon themselves.
Get ready for the circus of horrors....right here in Mayberry RFD....right barney?