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originally posted by: the2ofusr1
a reply to: 5StarOracle
I went through a lengthy and painful discussion with my Narcissist son .It would not surprise me if the OP was him as its the same old same old type of exchanges op has had on this thread . Its sad really, is the only way to describe it . At the end of the day ,the only help has to be a professional and even that is a behavioural modification ...They lack true empathy ...
originally posted by: Barzini
That's right. I come with scripture too. Matthew 24: 23-26 " Then if anyone says to you, 'Look! Here is the Messiah', or 'there he is' do not believe it for false Messiah's and false prophets will appear and produce great signs and omens, to lead astray, if possible, even the elect. Take note, I have told you beforehand. So if they say to you, 'Look! He is in the wilderness,' do not go out. If they say, ' Look! He is in the inner rooms,' do not believe it.
That's Jesus warning his disciples that false prophets will appear in their time. Don't believe anyone who claims to have knowledge of my whereabouts or claims to have seen me. Got it Jesus.
Good thing the Apostles rejected him. Sure they tolereted him until they found out what he was teaching. They never call him Apostle. Only Luke, his companion does. And himself.
Jesus chose 12 Apostles to honor the 12 tribes. 12 is so important that the tribe of Joseph, when it split into Ephraim and Manassah, was still counted as one tribe, 2 half tribes. No 13 tribes.
Why would it be any different for Apostles? When Judas died they replaced him, to keep at twelve. Paul blasphemes by calling himself an apostle.
2 Timothy 1:15 " This you know, that all those in Asia have turned away from me."
That's Paul whining to Timothy about being rejected.
Revelation 2:2...'; you have tested those who claim to be apostles but are not, and have found them to be false.'
That's Jesus to Ephesus, in Asia. Who else could he be talking about but Saul and his band of miscreants?
Just to emphasize the importance of the number 12 go to Revelation 21:9 the Vision of the New Jerusalem
"It has a great, high wall with TWELVE gates, and at the TWELVE gates TWELVE angels, and on the gates are inscribed the names of the TWELVE tribes of the Israelites; on the east three gates, the north three gates, on the south three gates, and the west three gates. And the wall of the city has TWELVE foundation's, and on them are the TWELVE names of the TWELVE APOSTLES of the Lamb.
Sorry Saul, your not invited.
A few years back it was noticed by some that the New Age movement really hated the book of Romans ,and most if not all of their arguments fell flat by using that book . Reading some of their stuff and the conversations they were having , Paul was the problem for them . Paul becomes a problem for most that would challenge Christian Orthodoxy and the Christian community at large .
I really do believe that these discrediting hit pieces on Paul originate from those with a certain agenda against some very specific bible principles. Discredit the man and everything he wrote, and those pesky few verses go with them and him.
Go to any Christian church, and let us know when one quote from Jesus happens, you can say maybe once in every 5 weeks, whilst Paul will be quoted say, 50 times or more per service.
All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, 17 so that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work.