The Tools of the Dictator----Fear, A Scapegoat, Intimidation and Donald Trump

originally posted by: MystikMushroom

originally posted by: kendix1960
a reply to: MystikMushroom

That is so true and we have Obama to thank for it for the most part.

Because the majority of Americans voted for Obama, the GOP refused to work with the Democrats -- causing nothing to get done, and approval ratings to plummet.

Right, it's Obama's fault that no one likes congress. Got it.

It doesn't have anything to do with an entire political party pouting and throwing a tantrum, not working across the aisle and making secret backroom deals to block anything of Obama's -- even thought he clearly won the vote of the people.

You got to remember that when the dems had full control of all branches they went crazy. Thats why we now have a republican house and senate. The reasons for discontent now toward house and senate have only 1/2 to do with back door deals and foot dragging. The high numbers come from dems who don't understand why republicans wont work with Obama and 1/2 from republicans that are mad that the house/senate wont move on their mandate. That adds up to a total but not a consensuses.

a reply to: Logarock

I must respectfully disagree. The similarities are just too stark to ignore. But even if you were correct and Trump isn't doing so now, his actions and zenophobia more than suggest that he surely will spook folks about non white immigrants if he is elected. "We're going to build that wall between Mexico and the United States and then we're going to make them pay for it."

a reply to: Logarock

What you are describing is classic gridlock in the U.S. Congress. Frankly that problem, now long standing, isn't likely to improve, especially if we wind up with either Trump, Sanders or Hillary Clinton in the White House.

originally posted by: kendix1960
a reply to: Logarock

What you are describing is classic gridlock in the U.S. Congress. Frankly that problem, now long standing, isn't likely to improve, especially if we wind up with either Trump, Sanders or Hillary Clinton in the White House.

Yes but am addressing that the high numbers of disapproval are misleading.

originally posted by: kendix1960
a reply to: Logarock

I must respectfully disagree. The similarities are just too stark to ignore. But even if you were correct and Trump isn't doing so now, his actions and zenophobia more than suggest that he surely will spook folks about non white immigrants if he is elected. "We're going to build that wall between Mexico and the United States and then we're going to make them pay for it."

Well why are not Hispanics in Nevada finding that idea repulsive? Why they still voting for the guy?

And think about the reality that no one knows how xenophobic whites are not like Hispanics. Whites hire most of them and most that worked all over US over the last 15 years. They know its hype. Whites actually show Mexicans for example a considerable amount of respect whatever they may say about status.

a reply to: Logarock

Trump's tough talk resonates among Hispanics, just as it does with other groups, as long as these folks have reason to feel that they aren't getting a fair shake at the good life. Trump thrives on discontent and under employment combined with the sense that America has been pushed around and unfairly treated by other countries in trade matters while also being relegated to a globally weakened military posture. Much of this falls at the feet of of a very inept President Obama.

a reply to: kendix1960


Yea and it demonstrates a considerable amount of them that want to identify with conservative american values. They want to be though of as solid contributing members of our society along those lines.

a reply to: Logarock

Yes they do. But Trump lumps them all together and says "something bad is coming out of there." Of course we need to vet them and separate out the dangerous ones who want to hurt us and not allow them in, but many of those who want to come in are being killed by the same ones that need to be kept out.

originally posted by: VictorVonDoom

originally posted by: kendix1960
The question is how and why can a racist zenophobic megalomaniac and supreme demagogue have such broad appeal to the American electorate when our friends in Canada and Europe know him for exactly what he is?

Easy.

Promise people free stuff. Promise to be open and transparent. Promise to cut the debt. Promise government accountability. Promise to bring the troops home. Etc.

Basically, just lie your @** off like everyone else.

a reply to: [post=20412471] VictorVonDoom

But Trump does it by racially profiling immigrants, with empty pompous ego driven rhetoric, and promising to make America great again when he really only intends to make Trump great. He is the typical megalomaniac and zenophobic would be dictator totally in love with himself! He is nothing but an insulting bully with no respect for women, minorities, or for anyone who disagrees with him. Bottom line: it's always all about him and only him!

a reply to: MystikMushroom

Trump has no plan or idea with regard to the need for an update of America's aging nuclear triad. He can't even define the three component parts of the triad as land, sea, and air based nuclear weapons.

Trump's ignorance and lack of tangible policy ideas concerning our nuclear power, when combined with his irrational hair trigger temper, makes him utterly unqualified for the nation's highest office. I wouldn't want Trump in charge of America's nuclear power !! No wonder he is in such low regard among our world partners except for Putin. And Vladimir certainly doesn't plan on "being nice" to Sir Donald when dealing with him.

a reply to: [post=20408591] Pychicromag

Trump is actually in favor of certain parts of Obamacare! I wonder how his supporters feel about that? And now he says he's neutral on the Israeli- Palestinian issue after first implying that if no peace deal can be achieved between them, it will be because Israel doesn't really want a deal for a two state solution.

Bottom line is that Trump is all over the map and changes his tune depending on what audience he is talking to at a given point in time.

Trump has been called to account on the Israeli-Palestinian issue on the basis that someone running for President of the United States has to take a position on such an important issue rather than sitting on the fence and waiting to see which way the wind is going to blow.

originally posted by: BatheInTheFountain
1) Why the constant comparison to "Hitler"?

Hyperbole rules the roost when one loses the ability to objectively debate or critically think. It's just easier to compare someone to the devil than it is to speak about facts.

I am not saying Trumo doesn't resemble Hitler, just that your initial question was long overdue. I think Neo posted a thread about it not too long ago, and it's always the way it is. The left is Hitler, the right is Hitler, my mom is Hitler, Jesus is Hitler. Hitlermania around here for sure.

I do see slight parallels to Hitler when looking at the Donald, but the man is a capitalist at heart. That's the one thing we mustn't forget.

You know Europe is made up of many countries... Plus America was forced into war due to Pearl Harbour. And what happened to the Nazis left over? You imported them!

Of cours! Why should the United States have left all the top minds of the Reich to the Soviets? You do realize there was a frantic race toward the ICBM even before other nations split an atom? Th cold war was there and the US wasn't going to let the Soviets have all the new toys to themselves. But you knew that.

a reply to: spinalremain

The comparison of Trump to Hitler has been duly noted by many and is undeniable. Trump is a capitalist but a zenophobic racist and megalomaniac demagogue nevertheless with fascist tendencies. He would be a disaster for the country if he ever becomes president.

a reply to: spinalremain

In the republican debate of Feb. 25, 2016, Trump was the only candidate who was neutral on the Israeli-Palestinian issue. Every other candidate on the stage expressed full unqualified support for Israel's position emphasizing that the PLO and Hamas perpetrate frequent terrorist attacks against the Jewish state and making it clear that Israel is our greatest friend in the M.E. and deserves our full support.

Trump was the overall loser in this debate coming across evasive, pompous, demeaning and insulting as he always does and demonstrating no real knowledge or depth with regard to the issues. Nor did he express any sensible or tangible policies regarding how he plans to solve or address the nation's problems.

The clear winner of the debate was Governor Kasich of Ohio who demonstrated the necessary knowledge and maturity as well as the executive experience to be President of the United States. A ticket of Kasich and Rubio would defeat Hillary Clinton in November in my opinion. Marco Rubio was the second best debater on the stage and would balance a Kasich ticket nicely.

a reply to: [post=20412157] Logarock:

Trump's egomania and tendency to scapegoat and dislike people who are of different races and origins stems from a gross inferiority complex requiring him to over compensate by lashing out at anyone who disagrees with his views. That is what makes him a dangerous racist zenophobe, demagogue, and megalomaniac. We can't trust a person with his kind of hair trigger temper with America's nuclear arsenal.!

a reply to: spinalremain

In my opinion, the only bottom line that Trump cares about is his his own. He has taken his casinos through bankruptcy multiple times without regard for those who lost their jobs indicating that it was good business, he made money doing it, and then says "we all do it." He thinks that all it takes to run a country as President is to be able to make deals. He has no idea about diplomacy, statesmanship, or ethics. Nor does he have the respect of our world partners who view him for what he is: A loud mouth buffoon and bully. He appeals to our darker angels and is simply not qualified to be President of the United States!

a reply to: spinalremain

Actually hyperbole is Trump's stock in trade. An educated American electorate would never accept his empty rhetoric and false promises and would utterly reject his racist zenophobic hatred, poison, and bigotry out of hand!

a reply to: spinalremain

Pearl Harbor was the event that forced us into World War 2 but F.D.R. was sending help to England before Dec. 7th, 1941. All the while there was a race to the Atom bomb going on between our scientists and Hitler's scientists. Thank God we won that race.

After the above, it became a technological race between Soviet Russia and the United States for the upper hand in weapons and space exploration such that both sides wanted to have access to the world's best and brightest nuclear scientists.