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The Tools of the Dictator----Fear, A Scapegoat, Intimidation and Donald Trump

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posted on Feb, 24 2016 @ 11:31 AM

Basically what all Trumps speeches add up to.
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posted on Feb, 24 2016 @ 11:39 AM
Look at the poll numbers regarding congress in general...

The approval ratings of congress are in the toilet. Americans are pissed on BOTH sides at anyone working in DC.

So, Trump is playing on that big time. He knows people are frustrated and hate politicians, so he's using that angle to his advantage.

It's pretty transparent....

posted on Feb, 24 2016 @ 11:46 AM
a reply to: MystikMushroom

That is so true and we have Obama to thank for it for the most part.

posted on Feb, 24 2016 @ 11:51 AM

originally posted by: GD21D

originally posted by: BatheInTheFountain

We literally saved Europe from imminent takeover from Hitler. How. PROPULSION. We figured a more advanced system of propulsion by mere MONTHS to beat the Reich's Airforce.

AND we stopped an all out onslaught of an Empire where people thought they were the Master race TOO, and had "GOD" himself as Emperor.

Is that NOT a great accomplishment?

We did that? That was us? I checked my phone earlier but I didn't see anything incoming from Europe asking for muscle on a job.

I know I spent time in the Middle East, but I must have blacked out that whole European experience.


He was talking about the invention
of the Jet Engine ( which was actually a
BRITISH invention!) but which America
Was able to mass produce. RADAR was
also the 2nd big invention to change
history...AND...the biggest one was
The Atomic Bomb which Germany
Was but less than 6 months behind!

Had Hitler focussed NOT on invading
Russia and just stuck to keeping Poland
for a mere year's worth of delay, German
Scientist WOULD HAVE perfected the bomb
By 1944 and the original Reich's plans to
nuke New York, Chicago, LA, San Fran, Toronto,
Montreal, Seattle/Vancouver, London and
Moscow in a general single wave sneak attack
To disable the USA and British Empire would
Have been initiated by 1945 which of course
Means the world would be very different today.........

... And if you take the political lanscape of the 1940's and compare it to Trump, there are some
Definite similarities to Germany of that time
With a roguish but appealing orator who can
SUGGEST things that sound good at the time
But eventually turn out rather not-so-great!

Trump is no Hitler because in reality he is
Rather than leading on a political level...BUT...
The bigger danger is that HIS UNDERLINGS
Than Trump...and it is THEY who would now
Be in positions of REAL POWER !!!

THAT would be the bigger danger!
An American equivalent to 1940's
Generals Hermann Goering or
Joseph Goebels who were underlings
with real ability that did a lot of damage
To the world of the 1940s.

If Trump gets elected I would be
MUCH MORE AFRAID of his underlings
who would then be able do a lot of
damage to The American Republic!

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posted on Feb, 24 2016 @ 11:56 AM
a reply to: StargateSG7

Thank goodness that never happened.

posted on Feb, 24 2016 @ 12:22 PM

originally posted by: kendix1960
a reply to: MystikMushroom

That is so true and we have Obama to thank for it for the most part.

Because the majority of Americans voted for Obama, the GOP refused to work with the Democrats -- causing nothing to get done, and approval ratings to plummet.

Right, it's Obama's fault that no one likes congress. Got it.

It doesn't have anything to do with an entire political party pouting and throwing a tantrum, not working across the aisle and making secret backroom deals to block anything of Obama's -- even thought he clearly won the vote of the people.

posted on Feb, 24 2016 @ 12:26 PM
a reply to: MystikMushroom

Congress has been a problem for a long time and yes it was going on long before Obama but the president's policies have been ruinous for the country never the less. We need change but Trump is the worst alternative.

posted on Feb, 24 2016 @ 12:36 PM
a reply to: kendix1960

The original post is a purely absurd, knee-knocking, 'fraidy cat, talking point robot response. Pretty much the fear mongering he or she is accusing Trump of. I'm going to address some of these tired points, not in direct response to the original poster but in general because I have an acquaintance who is a Bernie Bunny and he spews the same nonsense...

There is no racism here. Trump's posh clubs are open to black and Hispanic members. Indeed, the man depends on tourism and discretionary income to his golf clubs and casinos to make a profit. The wall is for security. The deportation is for criminals. This is what a country DOES. It is what a country IS. Borders, security, its a primary function. This isn't Star Trek Planetary government. That's a TV show. They even had to make hostile aliens otherwise they would phaser each other in the knee caps out of pure boredom.

He's not scapegoating anyone except the bought and paid for politicians. Who knows how it works better than one who did it himself? You may say to yourself this is reprehensible, but if you think about either play ball or you stay in the stands.

People are not afraid of losing their jobs to immigrants. They are already gone. We want them back. We want our industry and manufacturing back. This too is part of national security believe it or not. What if China or Russia ends up in a war with us? They can make planes and tanks and missiles all they want. We sent all our manufacturing over there. You think we're gonna put an order in for missiles, have them ship them to us Fed Ex and then lob them back at them?

The 'insults' and 'intimidation' of poor Rueters re-copying 'reporters' and empty headed 'pundits' who convinced you of Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq? These are the people you cry for? How can you compare Hitler to Trump when our CURRENT media is a Propaganda Factory Goebbels would weep with joy over?

The Bush criminal family just got a boot in the eye, and the absence of reality of 'keeping us safe' when arming the people who supposedly attacked us is being kicked down. Clinton criminal family took a shot to the jaw as soon as Trump brought up ol Bill's rapey rapist cover ups, and broke 'pro woman' campaigner's will, as its probably the only time the loudmouth shut her yap about anything. There's every indication that Trump is more aware of the way the world works then some of the people in this thread who can flippantly call a Billionaire 'not very bright'.

There's a similarity to Post World War 1 and the rise of Hitler in Trump? Are you all nuts? Are you burning piles of cash in the fireplace to keep warm after wheel barrowing today's bread line load down the road? Who is the ONLY candidate NOT threatening war with Russia? Ridiculous sensationalism! Adolf Trump indeed! Yet, if this is the only mindless spew these folks can bring forth, they cant recognize that the status quo is what is going to GET us to Post World War 1 Germany. I know food stamps are not as sensational as wheel barrows of cash on bread doesn't make a nice picture for people who can't read books without large pictures. The one person looking to turn it around before we get to that point is compared to a fascist. Unbelieveable. Please read the following:

""Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini "

That's what we are NOW.

There's a ton more I can go on about about the Salon Repetition Drones as I call them ("Reagan was terrible, Trickle Down Economics was a failure!" - um, it does work, only we shipped the factories over to countries who don't pay their workers squat, the trickle down is now trickle over seas!), but I think I finally figured it out...

...Trump is a man. Not a white knight, "I feel your womanly pain" while praying not to be friend zoned, man. But a MAN'S man. So programmed by sitcoms and commercials that portray the man as a dumb drooling ape for decades, most people can't recognize it anymore. This current wimp who lies to our faces ("you can keep your doctor, no one is coming after your guns!") has everyone so cuckolded they don't know what to do anymore. They only have empty talking points left...

posted on Feb, 24 2016 @ 01:00 PM
a reply to: kernalpanic

Thank you for your lengthly response and for taking the time to read my blog. I respect your right to disagree with me and merely wish to say that after reading your response, my opinions remain the same. I wish you well.

posted on Feb, 24 2016 @ 02:24 PM
a reply to: kernalpanic

Donald Trump is NOT THE PROBLEM !!!!

He does what he does BEST which is
to use his pretty savvy business skills
to ENTERTAIN the generally hard-headed
(not weak-minded but rather HARD RIGHT
CONSERVATIVE) powerbase that LIKES his
message of projected strength.

Donald's power base is not what we think it is!
It is a MIXTURE of old-school and old-money
bootstrap-types NOT of New York but rather
more of the Dallas, Ohio and Georgia semi-rich,
NRA-types rather than the Bloomberg neo-socialists
...AND... it is of those poorer MOSTLY RURAL populace
who really just wants to get back to an America that
is PERCEIVED to be "More Free" with less instrusive
government. (aka the F150/Chevy S-10 driving
Local Yokels who just want to hunt, fish and
otherwise just be left alone from interference
in their lives by any "Government Agency"!)

In BOTH camps, we have a political/voting
populace who sees Donald Trump appealing
to THEIR OWN rose-colored glasses
interpretation of America.

The Old-Money Conservative crowd want
to go back to the 1950's and the Local Yokels
just want Trump to dismantle Washington
and be otherwise LESS TAXED and
LEFT ALONE from interference by
can do their own thing which
for the YOUNG'UNS is to Drink,
Drive, Fornicate, Snort white
stuff up their noses and beat each
other up without having to face
any consequences from federal
or state authority of any kind!
The old-ones just want to be
left alone and left untaxed period!
THAT is what that portion of Trump's
powerbase THINKS he represents...


BUT...the ISSUE I HAVE is where Donald Trump
DOES APPEAL to both voting camps which is a
VERY LARGE portion of the American
population that makes me think that
he just might WIN the Presidency.

On the surface may NOT SEEM be such
a bad thing but to me it is his TALENTED
who tend to be Big-School Highly-Educated,
rather LEFTIST ELITISTS who feel they are
ABOVE the poor huddled masses of
down-trodden trogdolytes THEY
think that the rest of America is!

In THEIR MIND, the rest of America is a
childish group of uneducated DOLTS who
couldn't reason their way out of a paper bag!
In fact, their PREFERED METHOD to deal with
that great unwashed mass of stinking poor folk
is that they should be EUTHANIZED rather than
catered to. AND THAT ATTITUDE is what happened
to FESTER in Germany of the 1930's and 1940's
where vicious but highly educated ELITIST
UNDERLINGS got into positions of power
where they WORKED AROUND the
"Great Leader" to work on and
enact policies that furthered
environment of "Useless Eaters" whom
they decided to have NOTHING to do
with at all...seeing THEM as mere Animals
to be put down as unnecessary burdens
upon THEIR VERSION of what is deemed

And the parallels I see from historical
references to both Germany of the 1940's
and 2000 year old ROME is a single or series
of entertaining leaders appealing to the
"Great Unwashed Masses" but that powerbase
of voters being undermined, if not destroyed,
by a small cohort of ELITIST EGGHEAD
bureaucrats who think they are smarter
and BETTER than everyone else who
would rather have a smaller more
manageable society composed of

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posted on Feb, 24 2016 @ 02:25 PM
a reply to: Discotech

I saw the similarities when Obama did it.

And somehow only NOW people are hyperventilating about it?

posted on Feb, 24 2016 @ 02:38 PM

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Discotech

I saw the similarities when Obama did it.

And somehow only NOW people are hyperventilating about it?


ON a political basis, OBAMA did ONE THING
that literally saved America from bankruptcy
and it was ONLY a Democrat "Community Organizer"
like him that was able to pull it off.

And that ONE GREAT THING was the re-organization
of the Auto Industry and Banking Industry that required
QUICK ACTION after 2008. He presided over a Controlled
Demolition of two large financial groups which would have
created a massive cascade failure effect had a REPUBLICAN
HARD-RIGHT president (i.e. Mitt Romney!) been elected!
Romney would have let BOTH the Auto Industry
(i.e. General Motors) and The Big Banks (i.e. Citigroup)
crash and burn as per their Hard Right Conservative
principles which would have caused a tsunami of
after-effect job losses to the tune of what I THINK
would have been 30 to 40 MILLION PEOPLE within
two to fours thus causing a SECOND GREAT DEPRESSION
which would have resulted in REALLY HARD FINANCIAL
FALLOUT today in 2016!!!

In reality, OBAMA actually SAVED AMERICA from
probably 10 to 20 YEARS of a Hard 2nd Depression
simply by pumping money into a system temporarily
until a controlled financial demolition could be
PROPERLY was medicine that tasted
BAD and that MANY voters (LEFT or RIGHT!)
do not like...BUT...had it NOT been done
the other outcome would have been
MUCH MUCH WORSE for "Middle America" !!!!

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posted on Feb, 24 2016 @ 02:41 PM
a reply to: StargateSG7

Those things did not save America from bankruptcy. They created the climate of Too Big to Fail where businesses know that if they are large enough with the right friends in power, they can abuse their consumers and run in the red and the taxpayers will be used to bail them out.

Those companies can and should have been put into bankruptcy court like any other business that fails.

posted on Feb, 24 2016 @ 02:46 PM
a reply to: StargateSG7

Trump does indeed speak to the hard right conservative power base with a message of strength that they find appealing, but which also causes them to overlook the zenophobia and racism he spews like venom. It also causes them to confuse his empty egotistical rhetoric with an idea that Trump has real solutions to the issues of the day when he clearly does not.
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posted on Feb, 24 2016 @ 03:00 PM

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: StargateSG7

Those things did not save America from bankruptcy. They created the climate of Too Big to Fail where businesses know that if they are large enough with the right friends in power, they can abuse their consumers and run in the red and the taxpayers will be used to bail them out.

Those companies can and should have been put into bankruptcy court like any other business that fails.


Normally that is good thinking but the PROBLEM
is that conservative prinicples ALLOWED those
companies to get soooo big that had they been
allowed to fail, America would have suffered a
"Great Depression 2" which would have had
30 to 40 million MORE put out of work and
would have had ancilliary effects of destroying
the ability of America to have a decent Military
which would have given CHINA the reason and
CAPABILITY to take over America's role in the
world. In 2008, had our financial system collapsed
there would have been the scenario where
by 2016 CHINA would be Number One both
poltically AND Militarily AND I BELIEVE,
after having STUDIED Chinese Military Leadership
to a great extent they MIGHT have taken over
the Executive side of China's leadeship to force
China into a military confrontation if the
military leadership felt that America was
in a full-on pre-emptive strike!

The problem I see is that MANY OF YOU
feel America's problems are only yours
BUT that is a VERY DANGEROUS mindset
to have. There are opportunistic world
players (i.e. China!) who WOULD HAVE
been ABLE and WILLING to ensure America's
destruction if they felt America was WEAK!

They would have had the TECHNOLOGICAL
UPPERHAND by now and been able to FIND
and DESTROY America's nuclear forces
and then render us back to the stone age
to ensure America would never again
interfere in their own affairs!

While YOU THINK LOCALLY, other world
and WILL ENACT tactics and policies that
ARE to the detriment of ALL of America
if they feel this country is seen as being WEAK!

The OTHER world players (France, Britain, Canada,
Germany, Russia, etc) WILL NOT BE ABLE to help
because they SIMPLY DO NOT HAVE the military
might or population to resist AT ALL any attempt
by a NOW POWERFUL China to take over the
economies, if the not the GEOGRAPHY of the world!

posted on Feb, 24 2016 @ 03:18 PM
a reply to: StargateSG7

Good points. I share your concern that the more China perceives America as weak, the more likely they will become ever more bold and aggressive to the point of initiating a military confrontation with the United States on the assumption that they could defeat us.

That perception of a weak America has been fueled and worsened by President Obama's failed leadership and inadequate responses to both global terrorism as well as to Putin's adventurism in eastern Europe.

posted on Feb, 24 2016 @ 05:13 PM
a reply to: whatsup86

In many ways that is true. It seems like the only way Sir Donald can work a crowd is to scapegoat immigrants and foreign countries much like the dictators of the past used to do. It's easy to forget that Trump himself has his own line of clothes made in China and Mexico. He doesn't talk about that in his speeches.
And those who think his great fortune makes him less corrupt or that he is squeaky clean, Trump has been involved in a financial fraud trial arising out of allegations that he scammed students to attend Trump University on promises to teach them how to be successful in the real estate market.

posted on Feb, 24 2016 @ 05:22 PM
a reply to: kendix1960

I'm not so worried about the OLDER Chinese
military or civilian leadership as I feel they
are more interested in being practical and
focusing more on their INTERNAL economy
(which they SHOULD do!).

It is the YOUNGER more nationalistic officers
and civilian leadership who HAVE NOT HAD
any true "battle experience" and will make
the grave mistake of ASSUMING that America
will back down against overt aggression.
Japan and Germany found out the hard way
that this was NOT THE CASE! ...BUT... I also
feel the game has changed in that China
has risen SO FAR and SO FAST and has SUCH
A LARGE POPULATION that in any hot war

So again, had Romney won in 2008
and allowed America to self-destruct
financially, the world would have been
and economically! China would have
been Number One by 2016 !!!!

In fact, as an anecdote I was privileged
to "overhear" a conversation conducted
in half-decent English where more than
one HIGH-LEVEL Chinese Officers (youngish
sounding ones!) felt that already in 2016
that they could EASILY DEFEAT RUSSIA
and went so far as believing they could
actually defend themselves against and/or
easily destroy Russian nukes!

And if they ALREADY believe that they could
to say what they believe they can do
against America!

And with THAT sort of attitude PREVALENT
amongst officers who will be promoted within
10 years to REALLY HIGH POSITIONS within
the Chinese PLA, I think Trump AND ANY
and not in an isolationist manner. America
OF IT'S BIG STICKS and NEEDS to show the world
it is WILLING to use them if we are forced to!

Speak Softy...BUT...Carry a BIG STICK !!!!


So as far as I am concerned Obama was
the Right President FOR THE TIME!
We NEEDED a "Community Organizer"
and "Safe Demolitions Expert" in order
to "Save the Patient" (i.e. America!)
from financial ruin!

The NEXT President, however, has a
HUGE JOB ahead of them where the
structure of work itself has changed
(i.e. automation and just-in-time labor)
where work is NEVER permanent and
most young persons will ALWAYS be
renting and/or job-hopping!

Unless America ITSELF changes
itself in a fundamental way,
there could be REAL PROBLEMS
AHEAD where the country COULD
self-destruct economically and then
politically thus leaving America

And I am NOT being melodramatic
when I say "The Hunger Games"
or "Red Dawn" situation could
be a VERY REAL future reality!

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posted on Feb, 24 2016 @ 05:36 PM
a reply to: StargateSG7

We absolutely need to be militarily strong and to enhance our military now in order to discourage any nation from believing we could ever be defeated in a hot war. By doing so, that hot war will not likely occur. If the U.S. were to be forced into a serious military confrontation with a major world power now, the outcome would surely be in doubt, especially the way Obama has allowed our armed forces to be depleted over the past seven years.

posted on Feb, 24 2016 @ 05:45 PM

originally posted by: Discotech
a reply to: kendix1960

If you studied anything of Hitlers rise to power and the parallels between the global/financial climate post World War 1 and the global/financial climate of today you can see the eerie similarities.

And we're not the only ones to see the similarity

But Trump isn't really spooking folks about non-white immigrants like Hitler did, at all or anywhere near that level. He shares zero with all that.

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