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UK Referendum 23 June 2016 - Will it be an EU BREXIT or Not?

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posted on May, 29 2016 @ 12:30 PM
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Corbyn choir boy Owen Jones uploaded a video to his YouTube channel a few days ago with 6 reasons why we should remain in the EU.

I like the way he censures Brexit fear mongering tactics whilst at the same time talks about right-wing economic/politics being the order of the day if we leave, as well as giving a strong message to the world on how we view foreigners and immigrants (wtf?)

He did address accountability and transparency although he believes, along with his bosom buddy Yanis Varoufakis, that change can come from within using a bottom up approach. Well good luck with that one Owen!



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posted on May, 29 2016 @ 02:07 PM
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a reply to: Morrad

I just watch the video you provided but it isn't Owen Jones giving 5 reasons to Leave the EU. Not sure if that's a typo? The video gives us his 6 reasons for wanting to Remain in the EU.

All the reasons he gave are bogus of course.
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posted on May, 29 2016 @ 02:12 PM
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a reply to: 83Liberty

Apologies. Both typos. I have corrected.



posted on May, 29 2016 @ 04:46 PM
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originally posted by: Morrad
Corbyn choir boy Owen Jones uploaded a video to his YouTube channel a few days ago with 6 reasons why we should remain in the EU.
I like the way he censures Brexit fear mongering tactics whilst at the same time talks about right-wing economic/politics being the order of the day if we leave, as well as giving a strong message to the world on how we view foreigners and immigrants (wtf?)

He did address accountability and transparency although he believes, along with his bosom buddy Yanis Varoufakis, that change can come from within using a bottom up approach. Well good luck with that one Owen!



Sorry couldn't watch much of it couldn't bear being preached at by a wet behind

the ears twit. But something he said and i have heard it said before and its not

true, he said we owe the 4 weeks paid holidays to the EU? Well when i was working

in the 70's before the EU I was getting 5 weeks paid holidays with the option of

working one of them for double pay?

As for changing the EU .... NO CHANCE it is a crumbling bloated dying dinosaur of

an idea long past its sell by date.



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posted on May, 30 2016 @ 01:35 AM
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originally posted by: eletheia

originally posted by: Morrad
Corbyn choir boy Owen Jones uploaded a video to his YouTube channel a few days ago with 6 reasons why we should remain in the EU.
I like the way he censures Brexit fear mongering tactics whilst at the same time talks about right-wing economic/politics being the order of the day if we leave, as well as giving a strong message to the world on how we view foreigners and immigrants (wtf?)

He did address accountability and transparency although he believes, along with his bosom buddy Yanis Varoufakis, that change can come from within using a bottom up approach. Well good luck with that one Owen!



Sorry couldn't watch much of it couldn't bear being preached at by a wet behind

the ears twit. But something he said and i have heard it said before and its not

true, he said we owe the 4 weeks paid holidays to the EU? Well when i was working

in the 70's before the EU I was getting 5 weeks paid holidays with the option of

working one of them for double pay?

As for changing the EU .... NO CHANCE it is a crumbling bloated dying dinosaur of

an idea long past its sell by date.


Recall the same. 2nded! Another niave green behind the ears nitwit twit that don't have the sense to vote



posted on May, 30 2016 @ 02:55 AM
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Listened to Chris Akabusi on Sky News this morning saying that the Brexiteers think they are going to lose! More media BS



posted on May, 30 2016 @ 01:35 PM
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Pollstation now showing over 74272 votes and 83% are for Leave.


www.pollstation.uk...


May or may not be representative of the likely vote on 23 June but I do think its an indicator that vote Leave will win.



posted on May, 30 2016 @ 05:29 PM
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a reply to: eletheia

Agree. It was the unions that fought for and achieved worker's rights. I was getting similar annual leave to you in the early 80s.

The only point I thought had merit was TTIP. I fear it is more likely if we are outside of the EU with a conservative government.



posted on May, 30 2016 @ 05:38 PM
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On balance, I think that Texas should have a referendum to leave the USA. Just think about it - it could create its own laws and set up its own trade agreements with the rest of the world. And most importantly - it could stop immigration from the other US states and secure its borders. It could take back control and become the free, proud and independent nation it once was. It doesn't need Washington to tell it what to do. There would only be upsides to this. It would be far better off.
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posted on May, 30 2016 @ 06:32 PM
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Neil Westwood who won £100,000 in 2008 in *Dragons Den* for 40% stake

in his business *magic whiteboard on a roll* says >>>>

People buy products because they are good - NOT because we are in

the EU.



Neil Westwood hit out at Lord Sugar's claims that leaving the EU

would lead to disaster for the UK.


Sugar who was appointed an*Enterprise Tzar* by the Government

said last week, He told Sky News that 'Brexit' would be a disaster, we

have to stay in.


Westwood who with his wife now fully own the £1.2 million turnover

company said I have to disagree with Lord Sugar - the EU economy

has failed and they have miserable levels of growth and bailouts.

Unemployment is over 20% in a lot of EU countries. If Lord Sugar was

paying £10 billion a year to be part of a club so wasteful and inefficient,

he would demand his money back and fire the bureaucrats .


We can still trade effectively with countries without having the EU

micro managing the process. We can trade with non-EU anyway, my

company Magic Whiteboards sells to 20 countries, 70% outside the EU.

People buy products because they are good, not just because we

are in the EU.
He went on to say "Far from it being a disaster, it

is an opportunity to create jobs. and invest the billions we send to the

EU every year into the UK.


Westwood said of George Osborne's claim that " *Brexit* will cause

another recession."

We are already back in recession .... My factory on a Worcester trading

estate and every ones sales are down. Osborne knows this and he will

blame a Brexit for his policy. Government has cut too

much, increased taxes and reduced demand.

They have done this NOT *Brexit*



posted on May, 30 2016 @ 06:48 PM
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originally posted by: moniker
On balance, I think that Texas should have a referendum to leave the USA.


Is Texas totally surrounded by sea? at the narrowest point about 11 miles away

from the nearest land? Then go for it.

Except for the fact that Texas is a state and NOT a country




Just think about it - it could create its own laws and set up its own trade agreements with the rest of the world. And most importantly - it could stop immigration from the other US states and secure its borders. It could take back control and become the free, proud and independent nation it once was. It doesn't need Washington to tell it what to do. There would only be upsides to this. It would be far better off.


I have just thought about it .... It is NOT a country.

It is a *state* of a country and part of a *Nation*



posted on May, 30 2016 @ 08:44 PM
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VERY INTERESTING....

'EU's STATE AID RULES PUT THE BRAKES ON BRITAIN' -

THE POOR MAN OF EUROPE

As Continental subsidies soar, car makers ask "Why cant we do the same


www.thisismoney.co.uk...


The study by leading economic research group *Oxetra* shows that
between 2009 and 2014 the UK spent 95 euros per head per year on
state aid to business's and industry

France spent 235 euros Germany spent 240 euros and the average
across the other EU members was 165 euros .. ALL well above the
UK figures


And this (the UK) IS THE SECOND HIGHEST ECONOMIC CONTRIBUTOR.



The figures come as the up and coming referendum has once again
raised the often cited argument that the UK is shackled and cannot
help its own industry because of state aid rules from Brussels

Hopes for a rescue of Tata Steel UK division are mired in concerns
over state aid


FAIR
Hardly a level playing field.



This weekend former Government adviser, and owner of Leeds
based sports car business, Lawrence Tomlinson told the MoS that
EU rules were holding back the British Motor Industry.


How can anyone think we are better in
Second largest contributor

treated with such contempt.


www.thisismoney.co.uk...


Nichole Robbins, senior consultant at *Oxera* and a specialist
in state aid said "The fact that billions of euros are granted to
companies every year and is only possible through complicated complex
rules.


www.thisismoney.co.uk...



posted on May, 31 2016 @ 01:56 AM
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originally posted by: eletheia

Neil Westwood who won £100,000 in 2008 in *Dragons Den* for 40% stake

in his business *magic whiteboard on a roll* says >>>>

People buy products because they are good - NOT because we are in

the EU.



Neil Westwood hit out at Lord Sugar's claims that leaving the EU

would lead to disaster for the UK.


Sugar who was appointed an*Enterprise Tzar* by the Government

said last week, He told Sky News that 'Brexit' would be a disaster, we

have to stay in.


Westwood who with his wife now fully own the £1.2 million turnover

company said I have to disagree with Lord Sugar - the EU economy

has failed and they have miserable levels of growth and bailouts.

Unemployment is over 20% in a lot of EU countries. If Lord Sugar was

paying £10 billion a year to be part of a club so wasteful and inefficient,

he would demand his money back and fire the bureaucrats .


We can still trade effectively with countries without having the EU

micro managing the process. We can trade with non-EU anyway, my

company Magic Whiteboards sells to 20 countries, 70% outside the EU.

People buy products because they are good, not just because we

are in the EU.
He went on to say "Far from it being a disaster, it

is an opportunity to create jobs. and invest the billions we send to the

EU every year into the UK.


Westwood said of George Osborne's claim that " *Brexit* will cause

another recession."

We are already back in recession .... My factory on a Worcester trading

estate and every ones sales are down. Osborne knows this and he will

blame a Brexit for his policy. Government has cut too

much, increased taxes and reduced demand.

They have done this NOT *Brexit*


Absolutely. EU businesses are not going to change their supply lines they have used for years and are happy with because that would potentially be business suicide. Its quality that's important not trade agreements with the EU.



posted on May, 31 2016 @ 02:00 AM
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Boy the scholar establishments at it now with Stephen Hawking stating that BREXIT would be a disaster.


www.msn.com...

Although I respect Stephen for his theories he doesn't know or understand jack outside academia!

Another typical example of those on the Remain side of the fence putting their unqualified ore in!

This alone should be enough for voters to beware of the reasons behind such statements? Funding.



posted on May, 31 2016 @ 03:40 AM
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I vote that we petition to change the name of UK if the vote on 23 June is for Remain.

I propose that the UK is renamed EUBRIT. Because it certainly will no longer be BRITAIN!

Any other suggestions? I mean if we are to further sacrifice sovereignty we might as well fill in the English Channel or change its name to EU Channel.



posted on May, 31 2016 @ 04:12 AM
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a reply to: RP2SticksOfDynamite

Although it's, been taken Daily mail island will be a better representation.



posted on May, 31 2016 @ 05:56 AM
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a reply to: RP2SticksOfDynamite

I had a few thoughts on this, mainly along the lines of EUbastards


But I've decided to go with: We're so ScrEUed*


*screwed



posted on May, 31 2016 @ 06:59 AM
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My grand daughter who is going to uni in the new term to be a paramedic has

bought *flash cards* as an educational tool......

Spaced repetition: a hack to make your brain store information

The evidence for why *flash cards* work:


In 1939 psychologist H.F. Spitzer tested the effects of *spaced* studying

on sixth grade grade students learning scientific facts. Spitzer tested over

3,600 students and showed that they retained new information better if

they studied it repeatedly over time rather than all at once. This early work

went unoticed and was relatively quiet until the late 1960's when cognitive

psychologists explored manipulation of repetition timing as a

means to improve recall.


Around the same time, Pimsleur language courses pioneered *the

practical application of spaced repetition theory* to language learning,

and in 1973 Sebastian Leitner devised his *Leitner system* an all purpose

spaced repetition learning system based on *flashcards*



What you may ask has this got to do with the EU?


We are all aware of the extortionate sum the UK pays into the EU, and the

paltry refund we get back? with caveats on how this rebate can be used, and

a lesser known fact that every project must have a permanant,

placard proclaiming that it was provided by the EU.

OUR MONEY


The EU uses SUBLIMINAL INDOCTRINATION and some of us?? have

lost our minds



posted on May, 31 2016 @ 08:46 AM
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a reply to: RP2SticksOfDynamite

Not trying to be a troll, but you did ask:

REUL BRITANNIA - their name for us. 'Cos they will.

REU BRITANNIA - our name for us. 'Cos we will.


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posted on May, 31 2016 @ 10:20 AM
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a reply to: RP2SticksOfDynamite

Brussels will eventually have us down as Sector J, something like that. One of the north western states, not very remarkable in either size or importance.



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