UK Referendum 23 June 2016 - Will it be an EU BREXIT or Not?

originally posted by: Morrad

I think I remember that day. Did it rise very briefly to 70%? The government did it as it was prior to the Bank of England being in charge of interest rates.

I agree with both lies you point out.

Yes it did rise but very briefly to 15% which was double the rate then - as i said to

my daughter at the time to hang on - with the number of people with mortgages

something would have to be done or the economy would collapse!

George Osborn is being disingenuous with his claims .... i don't see how our

property market is effected by the EU. i believe the UK has more home owners

than any other European country, because the Brits, unlike Europeans, tend to

buy rather than rent.

Latest from Pollstation: (I know don't tell me)

After almost 55,000 votes its showing 82% Leave.


www.pollstation.uk...

Latest *scare* story David Cameron says food prices will soar if the UK quits the EU

He is being backed up by the heads of .....

Marks and Spencer's As the most expensive food store we can all shop

elsewhere?

Sainsbury's another of the more expensive supermarkets, we can manage

without them?

Tesco's They lost their market share as top supermarket some years ago

and have been fighting to regain it ever since!!

Guess we will just have to change our shopping habits?

We have the the American ASDA? very competitive i use it alot ..... Then

there are the German very up and coming cut price supermarkets

ALDI and LIDL who over the last couple of years have made increased

profits and market shares (i have been increasingly impressed by these two)

whose quality and choices have improved greatly since they came to the UK.


As large German companies/businesses do you think they will be happy to

*up sticks* and loose the UK market place


Just heard David Cameron is tweeting this doom and gloom from ASDA LOL!



Silly him ....Doesn't he realise they are an American company and nothing to do

with the EU

a reply to: eletheia

It just goes to show that either-

David Cameron has been ill advised tweeting from within an American owned company or David Cameron is treating the electorate as idiots. Probably both.

Either way the man is proving everyday how desperate he is to obey his Bilderberg masters.

The bottom line is nobody knows how we will fare if we leave and all the figures being bandied about is pure guess work, very much like Osborne's running of the economy to date.

originally posted by: eletheia

originally posted by: Morrad

I think I remember that day. Did it rise very briefly to 70%? The government did it as it was prior to the Bank of England being in charge of interest rates.

I agree with both lies you point out.

Yes it did rise but very briefly to 15% which was double the rate then - as i said to

Yes I remember it (around 1989?). I have a vague memory of an impending crash and the government adjusted the interest rate a number of times on one day. At one point it was raised to level silly but for only 30 minutes. Maybe I dreamed it at the time. My mortgage had gone up to £1000/month and I was under a great deal of stress.

a reply to: Cobaltic1978

The bottom line is nobody knows how we will fare if we leave and all the figures being bandied about is pure guess work

I believe this unknown variable, in the finely tuned equation of global economics, to be the root cause of international support for the UK to remain part of the EU. It is even more evident when you factor in self-interest and a perceived detrimental knock-on effect from this unknown variable.

a reply to: Cobaltic1978

The only economic downside in Britain leaving the EU that I can see is a temporary blip in the stock market...but then any perceived move into the unknown by a big economy will do that.

Otherwise, it's business as usual. The decision to join the club in the first place wasn't an economic one, it was political. So the question what will happen economically if we leave is irrelevant.

originally posted by: eletheia

Latest *scare* story David Cameron says food prices will soar if the UK quits the EU

He is being backed up by the heads of .....

Marks and Spencer's As the most expensive food store we can all shop

elsewhere?

Sainsbury's another of the more expensive supermarkets, we can manage

without them?

Tesco's They lost their market share as top supermarket some years ago

and have been fighting to regain it ever since!!

Guess we will just have to change our shopping habits?

We have the the American ASDA? very competitive i use it alot ..... Then

there are the German very up and coming cut price supermarkets

ALDI and LIDL who over the last couple of years have made increased

profits and market shares (i have been increasingly impressed by these two)

whose quality and choices have improved greatly since they came to the UK.


As large German companies/businesses do you think they will be happy to

*up sticks* and loose the UK market place

Just heard David Cameron is tweeting this doom and gloom from ASDA LOL!

Silly him ....Doesn't he realise they are an American company and nothing to do

with the EU

The shops that were saying prices will go up are the ones that are expensive already and they have lost much customer to ALdi, Lidl etc. Anyone who would be most affected by any increase in prices wouldn't shop at Sainsbury's or Tesco etc.

The news people then asked a food market trader who said there wouldn't be any change to prices!

Like I said next they will be saying the earth will turn square!

Lord Owen spelt it out very well today!

A figure has just come out in the news...it will cost every family if

we leave the EU the princely sum of £220 per family per year!!


Bring it on I say

cheap at the price for our own borders,

soverinity, laws, currency, and the freedom to be a democracy




Oh!! and we will retain those vast sums that we have been sending

to Brussels every week WIN - WIN

The UK is not the only Eurosceptic country in the EU.

The Eurosceptic Austrian freedom party fighting on the immigration issue

are ahead the vote is currently at 51% to 48.1%. in their favour ... but the

postal votes have yet to be counted.

There is also a lot of dissatisfaction in other countries where immigration

is causing problems, which our news medias seem to be having a

*black out* on,as the recent silence from them is deafening ....

I think a lot of eyes are on the UK because when/if we leave,

the EU will disintergrate ....Well lets face it only five countries out of

the twenty seven make economic contributions of any value, and the

UK makes the second largest contribution so how will the EU keep

economically afloat And there is a queue of poor countries waiting

to get in and reap some benefits.


Was it one? two? years ago the UK was penalised for doing well economically

with an extra demand for cash because of that....Wet David Cameron made

noises about NOT PAYING but then he obviously rolled over and did pay

originally posted by: Morrad
Yes I remember it (around 1989?). I have a vague memory of an impending crash and the government adjusted the interest rate a number of times on one day. At one point it was raised to level silly but for only 30 minutes. Maybe I dreamed it at the time. My mortgage had gone up to £1000/month and I was under a great deal of stress.

Makes that *leap in the dark* they keep talking about ....look like childsplay

According to the bookies the Remain campaign have it in the bag


www.oddschecker.com...


IF the bookies prove to be right then it will be a very sad day for the UK and all I can say is that those who do vote for Remain will get all they deserve when the EU goes tits up and has to go to the US or China for a bailout and suffer the consequences of what that will mean! Sheep aren't very perceptive, nor are they very brave!

Immigration/migration to the UK will further drown the country and its services and crime will grow.

I will be leaving the UK with my family to reside elsewhere at the end of June 2016 if the vote is to remain.

a reply to: RP2SticksOfDynamite

Yeah the odds have been drifting higher for the past few days.
It's strange as nothing substantial has happened to change the odds like that.
Maybe there has been a big increase in people betting Remain.


Here is a good article about the reason behind the difference in Online and Telephone methodology...
yougov.co.uk...

originally posted by: 83Liberty
a reply to: RP2SticksOfDynamite

Yeah the odds have been drifting higher for the past few days.
It's strange as nothing substantial has happened to change the odds like that.
Maybe there has been a big increase in people betting Remain.


Here is a good article about the reason behind the difference in Online and Telephone methodology...
yougov.co.uk...

That's quite interesting.

I wonder why the online Pollstation vote is 82% Leave and 15% Remain and 3% Undecided after approx 57621 votes. That's pretty large vote taken from all over the UK.

www.pollstation.uk...

I was fuming yesterday when I arrived at my mums. She is 88 and has a postal vote and a note had been sent by the Remain Campaign to postal voters informing them of the dangers of leaving with quotes from Richard Branson and Bank of England. She was frightened by it and asked if me and my sisters were doing the right thing voting Brexit. How many will have their minds changed by this trash when it is last thing they will see before voting? It makes my blood boil. I think it will be rigged.a reply to: RP2SticksOfDynamite

a reply to: anxiouswens

The westminster establishment are total bastards. During Scottish Referendum they phoned pensioners and told them if they voted to leave UK they would lose their pension. No wonder the biggest vote to stay came from the elderly.

Scot Ref wasn't played fair and neither is this one.

Do you see now why us Scot Nats are so annoyed about it ?

a reply to: bigyin

Just my opinion, of course, but I think what happened (or didn't happen) when the pensionable age was raised with so little warning proved to Westminster how much they could get away with without the whole country rebelling.

They robbed the most vulnerable of us and are still getting away with it.

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I really want Britain out from under the EU so our government don't have anyone to hide behind or blame any more. No more 'it was the EU wot did it'. Let's hold the bastards accountable.

Although I want to stay on good trading terms with Europe. I heard that the French do a nice line in guillotines...

I don't know the full story on this but just seen it on fb and wanted to leave it here

originally posted by: berenike
I really want Britain out from under the EU so our government don't have anyone to hide behind or blame any more. No more 'it was the EU wot did it'. Let's hold the bastards accountable.

If we have to stay in i think the citizens of the UK should sign a petition that the

Government of the UK is no longer required as we have the EU running our country

and telling us what to do and they are getting paid very generously for

doing so!! Get rid of all the yellow livered barstewards in the government.

Although I want to stay on good trading terms with Europe. I heard that the French do a nice line in guillotines...

The Germans need to sell their BMW's and Mercedes, I would hazzard a guess we

could be their best customer?

originally posted by: bigyin
I don't know the full story on this but just seen it on fb and wanted to leave it here

There have been quite a few other similar cases too...along with the *hate

preachers* who preach hate and live of the benefits provided by the UK

One of the top reasons to get out of the EU and implement our own laws