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UK Referendum 23 June 2016 - Will it be an EU BREXIT or Not?

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posted on May, 11 2016 @ 01:32 PM
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Gordon Brown says

We should not be fully out and we should not be half out. We should be fully in.


What does he mean by fully in ?

Should we join the Euro, give up the concessions won by Cameron, and drive on the right ?

Your only fully in if you do all these things. Or does he mean fully in but only so far.

He also says

quitting EU would not be British
but if we go fully in to EU thats when being British ends surely.
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posted on May, 11 2016 @ 01:49 PM
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More from Vote Leave:


Did you see the official funding figures? I’m speechless. The pro-EU Remain campaign has raised over £6.8 million, to our £2.7 million. That means they’ve got more than twice as much money to spend on their propaganda.

Worse still they’re being funded by big American investment banks like Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan and Morgan Stanley.

Remind me why it’s any of Goldman Sachs’ business how Britain votes in the referendum?!

With 42 days to go until the vote, it’s time we got to work. We can win this - despite all the money the other side has spent the polls are neck-and-neck. British voters just aren’t buying their argument that the only option is to stay in a failing EU.

Boris Johnson, Gisela Stuart and Michael Gove are out there now campaigning on your behalf. So are thousands of volunteers up and down the UK. And today I’m signing up to help too.

We need to get our messages out: that every week we send £350m a week to the EU for a deal that’s not working. That the addition of Turkey, Serbia, Macedonia, Albania, and Montenegro will only increase the burden on vital public services which we all depend upon.



posted on May, 11 2016 @ 03:13 PM
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posted on May, 11 2016 @ 04:16 PM
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originally posted by: RP2SticksOfDynamite


Worse still they’re being funded by big American investment banks like Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan and Morgan Stanley.

Remind me why it’s any of Goldman Sachs’ business how Britain votes in the referendum?!



Because it is in their best interests for the UK to remain in the EU?

AND

Because it is in the best interest of the EU IF the UK remains in?

Seems no one else has the best interests of the UK in mind.




With 42 days to go until the vote, it’s time we got to work. We can win this - despite all the money the other side has spent the polls are neck-and-neck. British voters just aren’t buying their argument that the only option is to stay in a failing EU.



It doesn't appear David Cameron did himself or the *IN* cause any favours with

his speech of "being safer in the EU and preventing a future world war 3."



At least three people I know, who were on the fence have decided to vote *OUT*



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 01:46 AM
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originally posted by: eletheia

originally posted by: RP2SticksOfDynamite


Worse still they’re being funded by big American investment banks like Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan and Morgan Stanley.

Remind me why it’s any of Goldman Sachs’ business how Britain votes in the referendum?!



Because it is in their best interests for the UK to remain in the EU?

AND

Because it is in the best interest of the EU IF the UK remains in?

Seems no one else has the best interests of the UK in mind.




With 42 days to go until the vote, it’s time we got to work. We can win this - despite all the money the other side has spent the polls are neck-and-neck. British voters just aren’t buying their argument that the only option is to stay in a failing EU.



It doesn't appear David Cameron did himself or the *IN* cause any favours with

his speech of "being safer in the EU and preventing a future world war 3."



At least three people I know, who were on the fence have decided to vote *OUT*

Or its majority of people! (in mind)
This STAY campaign is all about lining the pockets of those that have and the banks and the secret OWG vision of the few who want all the wealth and all the power and a EU army is a prelude to a OWA!



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 01:51 AM
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originally posted by: bigyin
Gordon Brown says

We should not be fully out and we should not be half out. We should be fully in.
THERE YOU HAVE IT! EU LAW, EU ARMY AND EU CONTROL.

What does he mean by fully in ? FULLY COMMITTED TO THE EU VISION AND ITS PLANS

Should we join the Euro, give up the concessions won by Cameron, and drive on the right ? IF UK REMAIN IN EU THEY WILL LATER BE PRESSED INTO TAKING ON THE EURO

Your only fully in if you do all these things. Or does he mean fully in but only so far. FULLY SO FAR IS NOT FULLY IN, ITS FULLY SO FAR!

He also says

quitting EU would not be British
but if we go fully in to EU thats when being British ends surely.
THAT'S BECAUSE IT REALLY WOULD BE. IF THERE IS NO QUALIFYING STATEMENT THEN THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT HE SAID IS THE TRUTH



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 04:00 AM
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See latest from Pollstation. Leave vote has now increased to 81% after 33500 votes.

www.pollstation.uk...



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 04:50 AM
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originally posted by: RP2SticksOfDynamite
See latest from Pollstation. Leave vote has now increased to 81% after 33500 votes.

www.pollstation.uk...


You can't trust internet polls. There is not even a registration for this one and you can vote more than once.
The Economist poll tracker has it as 41 Leave 40 Stay and 19 Undecided.



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 04:58 AM
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Meanwhile it looks as if the masters in Brussels have decided that Spain and Portugal need to be fined for not reducing their debt according to the EU's requirements. It's like a banks relationship with a debtor! Do we really want Brussels (actually a few unelected people) extorting more money from the UK with fines?



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 12:06 PM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: RP2SticksOfDynamite
See latest from Pollstation. Leave vote has now increased to 81% after 33500 votes.

www.pollstation.uk...


You can't trust internet polls. There is not even a registration for this one and you can vote more than once.
The Economist poll tracker has it as 41 Leave 40 Stay and 19 Undecided.
Yes I know but if you account for 21% s margin of error, Leave is still 60% after 35300 votes.

I still think it is an indication of the way the actual vote on 23rd will sway. My personal prediction which I stipulated a while ago is a 53-57% vote leave! I wont be that far off.



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 12:08 PM
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originally posted by: UKTruth
Meanwhile it looks as if the masters in Brussels have decided that Spain and Portugal need to be fined for not reducing their debt according to the EU's requirements. It's like a banks relationship with a debtor! Do we really want Brussels (actually a few unelected people) extorting more money from the UK with fines?
There you have it! What powers the EU has that it can fine nation states that have recently been through nia bankruptcy. This is ridiculous!



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 12:26 PM
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Has anyone heard of Brexit the Movie?

They rolled out the red carpet for celebrities and politicans last night at the Premier showing, but you can watch it online now for free...
www.youtube.com...



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 12:32 PM
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From Vote Leave: It just gets better!

We can support our farmers in more targeted and efficient way instead of relying on outdated common agricultural policy.


Scale of migration far higher than first thought

Figures released today reveal that the scale and impact of immigration from the EU is even higher than previously admitted. In the four years up to June 2014, statistics had originally showed that 739,000 EU migrants had come to the UK. However, the new figures www.ons.gov.uk... numberregistrationsandtheestimateoflongterminternationalmigration/2016 - which take into account National Insurance number registrations - reveal the figure to be 1.537 million.

The Government tried to stop these statistics being published, as they add further evidence to the fact that we cannot control migration as long as we stay in the EU. This puts huge pressure on our NHS, housing, schools and other public services.

Downing Street claims that the higher number is due to short term migration. However, this is highly significant, as it is arguably more damaging in terms of wages and work conditions. You can read our full response to the statistics here. www.voteleavetakecontrol.org... new12_5&utm_medium=email&utm_source=voteleave

The reality is that we cannot control the number of people coming into the UK whilst we are inside the EU. Independent experts www.migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk... have made clear that the Prime Minister’s renegotiation will do nothing to reduce the level of migration. After we Vote Leave, we can take back control of our borders and ease the pressure on our NHS.



Fantastic first day of the Battle Bus

Thank you to everyone who came out to support the first day of our Battle Bus. There were hundreds of enthusiastic Vote Leave activists to welcome Boris Johnson and Gisela Stuart in Cornwall. You can check out some of the photos from the day on our Facebook page www.facebook.com... and Instagram account www.instagram.com...

Throughout the day they toured the county spreading their positive vision for why we should Vote Leave and take back control of the £350 million we send to the EU every week. They answered questions from people from all walks of life who were keen to understand the key issues surrounding the referendum debate, as well as finding time to visit St Austell Brewery. twitter.com...

The Battle Bus will be touring right across the UK over the coming weeks. We'll keep you posted for when it's rolling into a town near you!



New trade deals could create 300,000 British jobs

Membership of the EU means that we no longer have control over our ability to make our own trade deals. This has held back the UK economy, as Brussels bureaucrats have failed to strike trade agreements with major global markets such as USA, Japan and India.

Vote Leave research www.voteleavetakecontrol.org... reveals that if we take back control of our own trade policy and negotiate our own agreements with these countries, we could create 300,000 jobs in the UK. We can open up overseas opportunities for businesses large and small, helping to drive our economy and secure jobs and growth.


Message from a supporter www.youtube.com...

After we Vote Leave on 23 June, we can look forward to a dynamic future trading openly with a world economy.

Today's must-reads

Boris dismisses claims Brexit would lead to war - Sun
www.thesun.co.uk...

Bankrolled by fat cats - Mail
www.dailymail.co.uk...

Gordon Brown is still in denial over immigration - Telegraph
www.telegraph.co.uk...

Remainers are moving heaven and earth – but not the polls - Allister Heath - Telegraph
www.telegraph.co.uk...

The Falklands would be safer after Brexit - Major General Julian Thompson, Telegraph
www.telegraph.co.uk...



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 01:43 PM
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originally posted by: 83Liberty
Has anyone heard of Brexit the Movie?

They rolled out the red carpet for celebrities and politicans last night at the Premier showing, but you can watch it online now for free...
www.youtube.com...
Excellent. Oscar, Brit award etc



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 01:56 PM
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I've just finished watching Brexit the Movie.

It's more of a documentary and is well worth the watch.

There are many new things I have learned, here are the most interesting bits in case you didn't have time to watch the whole documentary...



Did the EU really buy tons of food and let it rot in fields? This is absolutely shocking if true!!

I also thought this was rather funny and highlights just how much of a burden the EU is...


edit on 83158bAmerica/ChicagoThu, 12 May 2016 13:58:00 -05003116 by 83Liberty because: fixed youtube links



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 02:25 PM
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How many people working for the EU are paid more than David Cameron?

5? 10? No. 10,000 people.



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 03:02 PM
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originally posted by: 83Liberty
How many people working for the EU are paid more than David Cameron?

5? 10? No. 10,000 people.
Self preservation society fueling the wishes and objectives of the OWG crowd and Bankers!



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 11:39 AM
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Now we have Mark Carney, who began his career with Goldman Sachs, and is a

Canadian and the only B of E Governor ever who was not British giving his views.

Mark Carney has given his starkest warning yet ....

*may cause?*

*could possibly cause?*

Very carefully crafted words and hardly definitive, and only indicating a

possibility? would we ALL could forcast the future!! LOL!!

Interesting though ... all these financial experts coming out of the wood work now!!

Where were they in 2008? When the ACTUAL financial crisis hit the worlds

economy ... the silence from them then was deafening.


TODAY another one of them ... Christine Lagarde of the IMF came out with dire

warnings *Brexit bad to very, very bad*

To quote another well known Lady/woman "Well she would wouldn't she"



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 12:02 PM
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originally posted by: eletheia

Now we have Mark Carney, who began his career with Goldman Sachs, and is a

Canadian and the only B of E Governor ever who was not British giving his views.

Mark Carney has given his starkest warning yet ....

*may cause?*

*could possibly cause?*

Very carefully crafted words and hardly definitive, and only indicating a

possibility? would we ALL could forcast the future!! LOL!!

Interesting though ... all these financial experts coming out of the wood work now!!

Where were they in 2008? When the ACTUAL financial crisis hit the worlds

economy ... the silence from them then was deafening.


TODAY another one of them ... Christine Lagarde of the IMF came out with dire

warnings *Brexit bad to very, very bad*

To quote another well known Lady/woman "Well she would wouldn't she"

One would hope that the statements of these (its my job on the line) EUer's will be as transparent as they certainly appear. I mean when some one uses terms like "may" or "could" or "very to very bad" when they are using a mere crystal ball to back their statements it is obvious that there is little substance to their points.



posted on May, 13 2016 @ 12:11 PM
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originally posted by: eletheia


TODAY another one of them ... Christine Lagarde of the IMF came out with dire

warnings *Brexit bad to very, very bad*



The old rich biddy says house prices would plummet......LIKE THATS A BAD THING!


As a 28 year old paying rent and struggling to get on the property ladder even though im in the 40% tax bracket I say

BRING IT ON BITCHES!


Boo hoo super rich who are mortgaged on multiple property’s will lose cry me a freaking river


Least I will be able to get a mortgage in the south east on something more than a shoe box!


LEAVE LEAVE LEAVE!



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