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UK Referendum 23 June 2016 - Will it be an EU BREXIT or Not?

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posted on Apr, 5 2016 @ 12:30 PM
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originally posted by: RP2SticksOfDynamite
Sol signs for Vote Leave

The former England international Sol Campbell believes English football will benefit if we Vote Leave. He argues that free movement is allowing clubs to take on mediocre overseas players, crowding out young English and British talent. You can read his full article in the Mail on Sunday here. Please also follow @Football4Brit - tackling all the In Campaign myths about football and the EU.
www.dailymail.co.uk...


But Sol Campbell is black and only racist people support leaving the EU! How can a black man be a racist!?! joke

Seriously though, this is great news. Hopefully he will influence lots of football supporters to vote Leave.
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posted on Apr, 5 2016 @ 12:59 PM
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a reply to: 83Liberty

I think it could be good news for football in the lower leagues, perhaps force them all to develop more local youngsters because none of them can just easily sign from anywhere in the EU.

...and agreed, if any football fans who have little motivation politically yet are influenced by this point about home grown talent then yep, I'll be happy enough if they vote leave.



posted on Apr, 5 2016 @ 03:21 PM
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I think its great and honest!



posted on Apr, 5 2016 @ 03:55 PM
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EU BLASTED FOR *USELESS SPENDING* by ONE OF ITS OWN JUDGES


In a bombshell 88 page report Franklin Dehousse a judge in the EU General

Court delivered a scathing verdict on the manifestly excessive expansion of

the Luxembourg - based court.


Last year EU leaders decided to double the number of court judges to 56

despite the court itself only asking for 12!! Thereby landing taxpayers with an


estimated extra 16 million a year bill.


Mr Dehousse backed up the claims of Euro 'sceptics' that unelected EU judges

now possess far to much control over national parliaments. He also

questions the exceptional legislative power of the Higher European court of

Justice.

Even 'supreme courts' in member states do not have the power of the higher

European Court of Justice,which has a quasi-monopoly over proposing new

EU Laws.


Our lives are effected more and more by unaccountable and unelected EU

judges whose judgements have made the UK less safe and more expensive.


The EU is devouring the UK - we have no autonomy, the citizens of the UK

are working to fund this bloated organisation....which like a leech is

growing fat by sucking them dry.


www.express.co.uk...


We need to vote OUT our future and survival are at stake.



posted on Apr, 6 2016 @ 11:09 AM
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More from Vote Leave:


We send £350 million a week to the EU – enough to build a new hospital a week
We get 250,000 EU migrants a year – it’s out of control and damages the NHS
It’s safer to take back control and spend our money on our priorities

Imagine if we Vote Leave in 78 days’ time… We can take back control and help protect the future of our NHS for generations to come.


Lord Owen launches ‘Save Our NHS’ campaign

Lord Owen, the former Labour Foreign Secretary and Health Minister, today launches the Vote Leave ‘Save our NHS’ campaign with an important speech: ‘Protecting our NHS from the EU’.

He argues that the our National Health Service should not be under the control of the EU and cites serious flaws in The Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP), which is a major new deal being negotiated behind closed doors between the EU and the USA. This he says, disregards the purpose of social health care and undermines the responsibility each member state has for its own healthcare policy. This is highly detrimental to our NHS.

Lord Owen is also very critical of the damage wrought on the EU by the introduction of the euro, leading to catastrophic levels of unemployment across the eurozone.

If we Vote Leave on 23 June we can take back control and get back the £350 million that we send to Brussels every week. We can then spend our money on our priorities such as the NHS.



EU membership makes us less safe, says EU border agency

Terrorists are exploiting the lack of proper EU border controls to move freely around Europe, according to Frontex, the EU border agency. In 2015, nearly two million illegal border crossings were made. This represents a six-fold increase on those reported in 2014. Capitalising on the migrant crisis and often hiding among asylum seekers, terrorists can move from country to country inside the EU without having to produce proper identification of their nationality.

Radicalised EU citizens or passport-holders returning from Syria can also exploit the system to return home unchecked. This poses a real threat to security in the UK and leaves us wide open to crime and terrorism. Already we are witnessing a significant rise in incidents of violent crime across Europe and the EU is failing to come up with an appropriate solution. The safer option is to Vote Leave and take back control over our borders.





Today’s best reads:

Terrorists entering Europe because of porous borders may be undetectable, EU's own border agency admits - Telegraph

Brexit is necessary to protect NHS from TTIP, says David Owen - Guardian

Chris Grayling: We'll have no voice if we stay in the EU - Mail

Suspected criminals should not be deported from Britain to other European states if they might suffer bad treatment in jail, EU’s top court rules - Mail

David Cameron must be terrified that Project Fear will backfire - Tom Harris, Telegraph

EU rules are 'STOPPING a rescue package for the steel industry' - Express

The EU is adding fuel to the Brexit fire through new burdens on technology startups - Dan Gandesha, CityAM



posted on Apr, 6 2016 @ 11:09 AM
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More from Vote Leave:


We send £350 million a week to the EU – enough to build a new hospital a week
We get 250,000 EU migrants a year – it’s out of control and damages the NHS
It’s safer to take back control and spend our money on our priorities

Imagine if we Vote Leave in 78 days’ time… We can take back control and help protect the future of our NHS for generations to come.


Lord Owen launches ‘Save Our NHS’ campaign

Lord Owen, the former Labour Foreign Secretary and Health Minister, today launches the Vote Leave ‘Save our NHS’ campaign with an important speech: ‘Protecting our NHS from the EU’.

He argues that the our National Health Service should not be under the control of the EU and cites serious flaws in The Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP), which is a major new deal being negotiated behind closed doors between the EU and the USA. This he says, disregards the purpose of social health care and undermines the responsibility each member state has for its own healthcare policy. This is highly detrimental to our NHS.

Lord Owen is also very critical of the damage wrought on the EU by the introduction of the euro, leading to catastrophic levels of unemployment across the eurozone.

If we Vote Leave on 23 June we can take back control and get back the £350 million that we send to Brussels every week. We can then spend our money on our priorities such as the NHS.



EU membership makes us less safe, says EU border agency

Terrorists are exploiting the lack of proper EU border controls to move freely around Europe, according to Frontex, the EU border agency. In 2015, nearly two million illegal border crossings were made. This represents a six-fold increase on those reported in 2014. Capitalising on the migrant crisis and often hiding among asylum seekers, terrorists can move from country to country inside the EU without having to produce proper identification of their nationality.

Radicalised EU citizens or passport-holders returning from Syria can also exploit the system to return home unchecked. This poses a real threat to security in the UK and leaves us wide open to crime and terrorism. Already we are witnessing a significant rise in incidents of violent crime across Europe and the EU is failing to come up with an appropriate solution. The safer option is to Vote Leave and take back control over our borders.





Today’s best reads:

Terrorists entering Europe because of porous borders may be undetectable, EU's own border agency admits - Telegraph

Brexit is necessary to protect NHS from TTIP, says David Owen - Guardian

Chris Grayling: We'll have no voice if we stay in the EU - Mail

Suspected criminals should not be deported from Britain to other European states if they might suffer bad treatment in jail, EU’s top court rules - Mail

David Cameron must be terrified that Project Fear will backfire - Tom Harris, Telegraph

EU rules are 'STOPPING a rescue package for the steel industry' - Express

The EU is adding fuel to the Brexit fire through new burdens on technology startups - Dan Gandesha, CityAM



posted on Apr, 6 2016 @ 01:59 PM
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I don't usually do long posts but this is one I feel may be necessary as I am sick of
people denigrating the accomplishments of this green and pleasant island the United
Kingdom.The people who disparageand belittle it referring to colonialism etc.

The following is an introductory to a recently published book entitled"The Making of
India" it is written by an Indian Karlar Lalvam.


Our constitution remains a testimony to the enduring interplay between what is
essentially Indian and what is very British in our intellectual heritage. Indians should be
grateful for some of the valuable, colossal benefits the British bestowed on India.
The British rescued the majority of Indians from the hated *jizya* tax which was payable
by all non Muslims, converting them into degraded and inferior surfs. Let us also not forget
it was the British that abolished *suti.* They also resurrected our heritage.
Indians have good cause to be appreciative of the good the British connection brought the
Indians.
They prepared us for self rule, and finally made a graceful exit.
We owe the British a great deal of appreciation and gratitude.

In 2007 the eminent writer Jaithirth Rao wrote: The British gave us a sense of our past.
They mapped our country (my ancestors were involved in the survey of India)analysed
and described it in prose...YET I fear we are slipping into a collective amnesia of our history,
viewing the British as plunderers who brought India to its knees.

One of the things Britain did not introduce to India was corruption.
When I speak to my British companions there is an uncomfortable reluctance to speak of
British rule in India.
In 55 years I have not heard one single Briton speak about the positive legacy of British
rule in India.
Sadly most seem to have no idea that without what the British laid down for India, it would
most likely have remained a conglomeration of 20 disparate states.

The British should especially learn and remember with deserved pride, what their
forefathers built and created, an Indian nation that has no parallel in history. The following
generations of British childrenshould take pride in remembering and emulating their
great grand fathers, skills, enterprise and endeavours.

The building of great canal systems and railways happened under British rule, they introduced
the modern education system to India and by 1856 had established three major universities, a
new culture of libraries,and museums were also firmly established.

One can appreciate more deeply the benefits conferred on India by its unique relationship with
Britain.
Both France and Portugal had mixed reputations where their colonial admin. was concerned,
with their handing back of power most often acrimonious and bloody affairs.

It is the British in their governance that set the do's and don'ts in society.It was given to the British
to explain that personal liberty comes with social responsibility,Restraint, moderation, temperance
discretion and other values are direct influences of the British.

The object of my book is to distil the essence of this episode of trans-global nation building spirit
of Britain's unsung and heroic pioneers in India.
This book is a long overdue recognition of the effort and ingenuity of those courageous pioneers
who have so often, wrongly been derided as corrupt plunderers, bent on pillaging the land and
wealth of the people they conquered.


In the book I hope to provide the under appreciated reality that in all walks of life GREAT BRITAIN
has made a significant contribution to the making of India.

In the 17 and the following three centuries .... a small island 1/10th the size of the Indian sub
continent,dispatched sailing ships laden with tools, iron and workers, on a six month 12,000 mile
voyage.
The girders for every bridge, track for every mile of railway, the locomotives and the vast array
of machinery required at the outset, to build every piece of infrastructure in India were ALL
MADE IN BRITAIN

They were assembled according to the plans laid by the finest engineers of the time, who
arrived by the same route .... in the end they built a new nation.

The sheer audacity and scale of such an endeavour .... the courage and enterprise have no
parallel in world history.
The indisputable fact is that India as a nation, as it stands today was originally created by a small
distant island nation called the UNITED KINGDOM of GREAT BRITAIN



And do you still think a country with that spirit and tenacity cannot survive outside of the EU

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posted on Apr, 6 2016 @ 02:04 PM
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The government are going to spend £9m on delivering Pro-EU leaflets to every home!!

www.bbc.co.uk...



posted on Apr, 6 2016 @ 02:40 PM
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a reply to: 83Liberty

Ah yes that again ... fear mongering

How are you liking it ?
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posted on Apr, 6 2016 @ 02:53 PM
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a reply to: bigyin

Touché, lol.
It is good you are pointing the strategic electoral process out fella, hopefully it will help others to see the government for what it is and they will choose to vote leave instead.



posted on Apr, 6 2016 @ 03:02 PM
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originally posted by: 83Liberty
The government are going to spend £9m on delivering Pro-EU leaflets to every home!!


What a waste of money
Most unsolicited leaflets (and lets face it there

are shed loads come though the letter box )
go straight into the bin ....

mine does anyway


Don't suppose it will contain any thing more exciting than the pathetic

concessions Cameron claims to have gained.



posted on Apr, 6 2016 @ 06:14 PM
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Great news the Dutch have overwhelmingly REJECTED the EU/Ukraine trade deal...


Exit polls indicated roughly 64% of Dutch voters voted No and 36% said Yes. Although turnout was too close to call, early tallies indicated it was just ahead of a turnout minimum of 30% required for the vote to be valid.

"It's clear that 'No' have won by an overwhelming margin, the question is only if turnout is sufficient," Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte said in a televised reaction. "If the turnout is above 30 percent with such a large margin of victory for the 'No' camp, then my sense is that ratification can't simply go ahead," Rutte added.

Source

Fingers crossed for over 30% turnout.

This will have massive implications for the EU if the Dutch government listens to it's people and rejects the EU deal, as the Netherlands is the only country in the EU still to ratify the deal, although the deal has been given the thumbs-up by both the upper and lower houses of the Dutch parliament.

The European commission chief, Jean-Claude Juncker, has warned that a no vote “could open the doors to a continental crisis”.



posted on Apr, 6 2016 @ 07:38 PM
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If I remember correctly someone (sorry cant recall who) had

concerns about TTIP so this may be of interest to them....

David Owen has come out to say that the NHS will be at risk

of further privatisation if the UK were to stay in the EU,

because of major trade deals being negotiated ( in some

degree of secrecy I believe) with the US.

Lord Owen who was Health Secretary in the mid 1970's said

it would be impossible to take the NHS back to its original

purpose unless the UK votes to LEAVE THE EU

He goes on to say the TTIP between the EU and the US could

put the NHS in *serious danger* unless there are more

protections excluding the Health Service.


www.theguardian.com...



posted on Apr, 7 2016 @ 06:37 AM
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From Boris J, Vote Leave:

You may have seen this evening’s news. I’m sure you’re as staggered as I am to learn that the Government is going to spend more than £9 million of taxpayers’ money sending out a leaflet to every single home in the UK telling us we should stay in the EU.

They promised they wouldn't do this. Yet they are now proposing to spend more money promoting a 'Remain' vote than even the official Remain campaign will legally be able to.

We know this is a big decision, and that people are still making their minds up. That's why there will be two campaigns to try and convince voters what the best option is: Leave or Remain.

Each campaign will be allowed to raise and spend the same amount to make their case and convince the voters.

But the Government is losing the argument and it seems they don't want a fair fight.

They want to skew the debate, using tired old arguments that have long since been discredited.

And they want to do it with your money.

They are going to spend £9.3 million of YOUR hard-earned cash on these leaflets. We already send £350 million to Brussels every week – why should we hand over even more of our taxes to pay for propaganda?

Thanks to the generous donations of folks like you, Vote Leave is telling people the facts and setting out a positive vision for life after the EU.

But now you can see what we are up against. Campaign spending in the referendum will now be massively slanted in favour of the Remain campaign. Added together, the official IN campaign, the Government, and the political parties on the Remain side can spend a staggering £26.6 million.

On the Leave side, our limit is two and a half times less – £11.7 million.


With best wishes,

Boris Signature

Boris Johnson



posted on Apr, 7 2016 @ 11:01 AM
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a reply to: RP2SticksOfDynamite

Cameron's desperation is becoming pathetic. The way he talked to those students this morning was reprehensible.

It also demonstrates that austerity is only valid when it fits the government's agenda.



posted on Apr, 7 2016 @ 11:27 AM
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originally posted by: Morrad
a reply to: RP2SticksOfDynamite

Cameron's desperation is becoming pathetic. The way he talked to those students this morning was reprehensible.

It also demonstrates that austerity is only valid when it fits the government's agenda.










Fully agree! And his faced lit up like a beetroot. One or two questions nailed him!



posted on Apr, 7 2016 @ 11:28 AM
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From Vote Leave:

Next weekend we are holding a series of major events to mark the official start of this historic campaign. As one of our supporters, we would love for you to join us.

On 15 April, Michael Gove MP will be delivering a speech to Vote Leave activists. Doors open at 4:30pm, the event will end at 6:00pm

This will be an excellent opportunity to hear from a senior figure involved in Vote Leave, who will be reinforcing the need for us to take back control and to spend our money on our priorities.

We very much hope you will be able to attend and look forward to seeing you there!

Cheers,

Vote Leave



posted on Apr, 7 2016 @ 11:38 AM
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More from Vote Leave:

Imagine if we Vote Leave in 77 days’ time… We can protect the UK by supporting our own Armed Forces and not surrendering control to an EU Army.


The Government will spend YOUR money on its pro-EU propaganda

The Government announced last night that it is going to spend more than £9 million of taxpayers’ money sending out a glossy 16-page leaflet to every home in the UK telling us we should stay in the EU. This is a direct breach of a promise they made in Parliament.

Campaign spending in the referendum will now be massively slanted in favour of the Remain campaign. Added together, the official IN campaign, the Government, and the political parties on the Remain side can spend a staggering £26.6 million.

On the Leave side, the maximum amount we can spend is £11.7 million – two and a half times less.

The Government knows it is losing the argument, so now they are trying to skew the debate – using misleading facts, discredited arguments, and more than £9 million of YOUR money.

We already send more than £350 million to Brussels every week – why should we be made to hand over more of our taxes to fund Government propaganda? We should spend our money on our priorities, like the NHS.

This shows what we are up against. The Government, the Establishment, and their big business backers all want us to stay in the EU at any cost. The IN campaign is being funded by US investment banks who crippled our economy – while ordinary companies of all sizes know that the EU makes it harder for them to run their businesses and create jobs.

If you are unhappy that the Government is spending your hard-earned money to deliver pro-EU leaflets to your door, why not write to your MP or local paper? We’d be happy to help with any tips and advice of how to do this. Just email supporters@voteleave.uk.

PM chases the youth vote

Today, David Cameron is launching another IN campaign, claiming that young people will be hit hardest if we leave the EU.

The fact that he’s chosen to launch it at Exeter University when most of the students are away on holiday is very telling. Young people across Europe have been betrayed by the EU which, amongst its many failings, has allowed youth unemployment to climb to catastrophic levels, letting down an entire generation and leaving them with little hope of a promising future in their own countries. That’s why lots of students and young voters have been tweeting today telling the Prime Minister: #DontPatroniseMe. twitter.com...
If you don’t already follow them, check out some of the young activists campaigning for a Leave vote at Students for Britain www.facebook.com... and BeLeave. www.facebook.com...

Meanwhile, as we send £350 million a week to Brussels – enough to build a new hospital every week – the Government continues to borrow money to pay for our EU membership, forcing the next generation to foot the bill.

The safer choice for future generations is to take back control and spend our money on our priorities like schools and the NHS. That is why people of all ages should Vote Leave on 23 June.

Today’s must-reads:

Government spends almost £10 million of taxpayers’ money on Pro-EU leaflet - Daily Mail
www.dailymail.co.uk...

Boom in migrants heading to UK with fake papers - Times
www.thetimes.co.uk...

Cameron fought to protect trusts from EU crackdown - Times
www.thetimes.co.uk...

Victory for Eurosceptics as Dutch reject EU-Ukraine deal in referendum - Telegraph
www.telegraph.co.uk...

Words of wisdom from Lord Owen on NHS and Brexit - Daily Express
www.express.co.uk...



posted on Apr, 7 2016 @ 01:04 PM
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Grassroots Out are having another public meeting tonight (the sixth one now I believe).

With speakers Nigel Farage MEP, Dr Liam Fox, Peter Bone MP, Eddie McGuire (Trade Unionist), Mike Gold (CAEF), David Coburn and Brendan Chilton with more to be announced.

It's being held in Glasgow and you can watch it live here
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posted on Apr, 7 2016 @ 04:48 PM
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Latest news on the Dutch vote.

Junckers and Co are going to ignore the wishes of the Dutch people and carry on with integrating Ukraine into the EU. So much for democracy. Still, it all helps with Brexit vote



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