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Obama Says Putin Intervention Won't Help Assad Prevail in Syria

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posted on Feb, 19 2016 @ 04:40 PM
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Obama Says Putin Intervention Won't Help Assad Prevail in Syria

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“If there’s anybody who thinks that somehow the fighting ends because Russia and the regime has made some initial advances: about three-quarters of the country is under the control of folks other than Assad,” Obama said at a press conference after a two-day meeting with Southeast Asian leaders at the Sunnylands retreat in Rancho Mirage, California. "I say that, by the way, with no pleasure. This is not a contest between me and Putin."

Putin’s military campaign in Syria has shifted the balance of power in the country’s civil war toward the Assad regime, with Russian airstrikes pushing back rebel forces after five years of fighting. Putin’s forces have largely targeted opposition fighters backed by the U.S. and Arab Gulf states, U.S. officials have said, rather than the Islamic State terrorists Russia says it is combating. The strikes have powered an offensive by Assad’s military in Aleppo, the biggest remaining insurgent stronghold. Putin’s intervention has also complicated the United Nations-led peace process, as opposition fighters have been reluctant to engage in diplomatic talks while under attack by Russian warplanes.





"If Russia continues indiscriminate bombing of the sort we’ve been seeing, I think it’s fair to say you’re not going to see" rebels accept the cease-fire, Obama said.



Its clear Obama is not briefed on Syria very well. There are no moderate rebels in Syria Aleppo.




posted on Feb, 19 2016 @ 04:43 PM
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a reply to: TaleDawn

Russia's Intervention in Syria is already having positive effects on the ground agaisnt the Islamist groups and backers of Turkey and Saudis. How can you push for regime change when your fighters are tied to a regime state?



posted on Feb, 19 2016 @ 04:45 PM
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He apparently gave 2 speeches...the one he read off the teleprompter and the one found between the lines of what he said. Seems talking out the side of ones mouth is SOP in politics.



posted on Feb, 19 2016 @ 04:49 PM
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a reply to: RickyD

Maybe Obama's speech writer should be the President. Since to me they are just continuing the previous NeoCon agenda.



posted on Feb, 19 2016 @ 04:54 PM
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He's probably right about the 3 quarters part, but the FSA terrorists Obama is helping only control about 1/8th, the Kurds and ISIS probably control the most and the Kurds are working WITH Assad.

It doesn't take much to conclude that Assad will have promised the Kurds some part of Syria to break off into Kurdistan if they are victorious in getting rid of ISIS and the FSA terrorists. Otherwise you would see Kurds not wanting to work with Assads forces
edit on 19/2/16 by Discotech because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 19 2016 @ 05:09 PM
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Typical Obama, lying and paying lip service to the American coalition agenda of regime change.

This war could end very quickly if the USA did the right thing and supported the Assad government like Russia is. A political solution could be worked out if the USA were not so insistent that their will be 100% complied with. i.e. let the people of Syria speak through free and fair elections when the war is over.

Oh and BTW, I have seen reported in articles like the below saying the exact opposite of what Obama is saying. This is pure propaganda rhetoric because the USA is embarrassed by the ineffectiveness of it's policies and campaigns in Syria.

Putin is winning in Syria, but making a powerful new enemy




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posted on Feb, 19 2016 @ 05:43 PM
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Obama’s just spouting rhetoric. Putin, unlike him, did something about Isis. Obama, who history will record, sat on the sidelines while one of the most evil forces in history, ISIS, ran amuck.


It is important to history that Obama be denounced for doing little to stop Isis.


The Russians aren’t saints but they at least stepped up and fought this evil force while Obama just obeyed orders from the sinister evildoers who wanted to destroy Syria.



posted on Feb, 19 2016 @ 05:56 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
Obama’s just spouting rhetoric. Putin, unlike him, did something about Isis. Obama, who history will record, sat on the sidelines while one of the most evil forces in history, ISIS, ran amuck.


It is important to history that Obama be denounced for doing little to stop Isis.


The Russians aren’t saints but they at least stepped up and fought this evil force while Obama just obeyed orders from the sinister evildoers who wanted to destroy Syria.


Yep

And let it be remembered that Putin went to America to try and forge a coalition to work in Syria but was told to get lost.

He was reeported as saying this on Sep 27th




Julian Borger in New York
Tuesday 29 September 2015 16.15 AEST Last modified on Friday 9 October 2015 18.06 AEDT

Vladimir Putin emerged from a rare face-to-face meeting with Barack Obama on Monday night, saying Russia and the US could find a way to work together on Syria, despite deep differences over the country’s leadership.


www.theguardian.com...


America has acted incorrectly and immorally throughout the Syrian war.



posted on Feb, 19 2016 @ 06:17 PM
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This is no secret and outside of Assad himself nobody sees Assad taking back Syria, not even the Russians. In fact the problem for Assad is he is leaning on Iran, Hezbollah, Russia, Lebanese Shia militias and now Iraqi Shia militia's. Those forces are not going to stay in Syria forever to prop him up.

And again people seem confused about the Kurds in Syria they are no more a unified groups than the Kurds in Iraq. In Syria all the Kurdish except the PYD who are allied with the PKK are armed and trained by the Turks as a part of the KNC (an alliance of 15 Kurdish groups). The PYD is against the Turks of course. The PYD is for an autonomous Kurdish region while the KNC is for independence. Fighting has broken out several times between the two sides in particular because the PYD has a habit of armed take overs of KNC buildings. The KNC is part of the SDF along with Syrian Arabs, former FSA, Turkmen, Christian Militias, and tribal miltias. The KNC is US Turkish armed, trained, and air supported. They are the primary fighting force in all of Syria against ISIS and will be the ones to take ISIS capital. The PYD fights beside them sometime and against them at other time.



posted on Feb, 19 2016 @ 06:27 PM
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originally posted by: MrSpad
This is no secret and outside of Assad himself nobody sees Assad taking back Syria, not even the Russians. In fact the problem for Assad is he is leaning on Iran, Hezbollah, Russia, Lebanese Shia militias and now Iraqi Shia militia's. Those forces are not going to stay in Syria forever to prop him up.



Oh really? Have you not considered that the 'other' coalition' may have a post war plan for Assad?




The outcome of the foreign ministers' talks in Vienna now suggests that the Syrian government and the opposition should agree within six months on the establishment of a 'national unity' government.
"We would like the Syrian delegations, having started such negotiations, to agree on a union government within six months — a kind of national unity government that will address current issues," the Russian foreign minister said following the talks.
Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov (R) and US Secretary of State John Kerry talk before a conference on the Syria conflict in Vienna, Austria, on November 14, 2015

The transition plan also suggests that the unity government will draft a new constitution and in 18 months there should be free elections under the new constitution, which will be administered by the UN.

Read more: sputniknews.com...


They have a plan and a very sensible one. Assad will transition out of power when this is over, but for now he is the guy and his army and resources are the ones they are supporting in order to have any hope of an orderly change when this is over.

MSM is censoring Russia's viewpoint because it is not what America wants, which is Imperial domination of the Middle East.



posted on Feb, 19 2016 @ 10:03 PM
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a reply to: TaleDawn

"Folks"? What is it, a "shindig"?

Everytime that man opens his mouth to speak, it sets my back teeth.

I'm sending my medical bills for TMJ treatment to Barry Soetoro, 1600 Pennsylvania Ave., D.C.



posted on Feb, 19 2016 @ 11:45 PM
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Its clear Obama is not briefed on Syria very well. There are no moderate rebels in Syria Aleppo.

Everything Obama says is not realistic. He slings the BS as well as any other , if not better.




posted on Feb, 19 2016 @ 11:48 PM
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I don't care anymore but the next time Obama gets something right on foreign policy will be the first



posted on Feb, 20 2016 @ 01:05 AM
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In fact the problem for Assad is he is leaning on Iran, Hezbollah, Russia, Lebanese Shia militias and now Iraqi Shia militia's. Those forces are not going to stay in Syria forever to prop him up.


So what your saying that you rather see the Saudis and Turks Factions with the likes of the following. The Syrian mujahideen. The Sunni radical chechen Islamist (Saudi allied) Other Wahhabi groups either loyal or allied with Turkey and gulf states.

Do you prefer those factions to take over Syria and maybe Iran? these are the risks we are facing should the so called rebels win if at all.




the PYD who are allied with the PKK are armed and trained by the Turks

Your rather mistaken. PKK is not armed nor trained by Turks. The Turks only interest the complete destruction of the Kurds they dont care if they are PKK OR PYD.

Turkey never had any interests in making peace with the Kurds when their ambitions are set to restore the ottoman empire friend.




The KNC is part of the SDF along with Syrian Arabs, former FSA, Turkmen, Christian Militias, and tribal miltias.

You had me laughing haha, the Christian Militias are not with any of the FSA or SDF. The Christian Militias are part of the Syrian army separate force the NDF.

Are you going to claim there are Christian Militias Within the FSA and SDF? i have being looking through videos and social i see no such evidence.



posted on Feb, 20 2016 @ 01:53 AM
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Obama Says Putin Intervention Won't Help Assad Prevail in Syria.

So.........

Obama tacitly implies that the US is supporting ISIS because they want Assad out? or is he merely implying that what Russia has done up to now has been ineffective?

Perhaps Obama is saying that no matter what Russia does the US will make certain it all counts for nothing?

Is Obama implying that no matter what, the US wants Assad out; which would appear to indicate that any new leader would have to be pro American in order to be approved of by Washington?

Is US insistence simply saying that the bombing of Syria back to the stone age is simply a consequence of having a foreign policy independent of Washington?

Only yesterday I read an analysis of the satiation in Syria that says the US is simply sitting back now hoping that that Assad's troops do not get to a certain place in Syria before some other troops get there. The analysis indicates that the US is backing the other group so that Russia will be forced to put boots on the ground in order to prevent the US backed troops from getting their first.

The analysis went on to say that Russian boots on the ground is exactly what the US wants, that way they can then claim Russia is invading a sovereign country and that the invasion constitutes war and so the US can then attack the Russian troops on the ground in Syria.




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