Report: Refugee-related crimes in Germany increase less than influx of asylum seekers

Wow, that sounds like it should be great news. Maybe many of us who feared about this, more so after Collogne, and other German towns in which massive sexual assault attacks occurred by the hands of over 1,000 Muslim immigrants could have been wrong.

The Federal Criminal Police Agency says crimes committed by asylum-seekers have not risen significantly in proportion to the number of refugees. Sexual offenses accounted for 1 percent of refugee-related crimes.

Citing the latest findings from Germany's Federal Criminal Police Agency (BKA), on Wednesday the newspaper "Bild" reported that between 2014 and 2015, the number of crimes committed by refugees increased by 79 percent. Over the same period, however, the number of refugees in Germany increased by 440 percent.

The classified BKA report found that the "vast majority of asylum-seekers [commit] no offenses." Although the number of offenses initially increased significantly in the first half of 2015, the number of crimes in the second half of the year stagnated, the document added. It was in the second half of 2015, however, that most refugees arrived in Germany.

According to the report, 32 percent of the 208,344 crimes linked to refugees involved asset or fraud offenses, while theft accounted for another 33 percent. The proportion of sexual offenses made up less than 1 percent of refugee-related crimes, with 1,688 cases of sexual assault, including 458 cases of rape or sexual coercion.

According to the latest available figures, there were nearly 47,000 sexual offenses in Germany in 2014.

"Bild" reported, however, that the sexual assaults that took place in Cologne during the city's New Year's celebration were not included in the BKA report.

Those assaults sparked nationwide uproar, resulting in the removal of Cologne's police chief and leading to a heated debate about the integration of asylum-seekers.

Most of the attackers accused of 446 allegations of sexual assault and three instances of rape in Cologne had been described as being of Arab or North African origin. Later reports have shown that three refugees were among the men accused of sexual abuse crimes in Cologne.
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So apparently the government of Germany is proclaiming that the majority of asylum seekers do not commit offenses. But, did anyone notice how this report seems to lie to the German people at face value?

The German government states that in 2014 in Germany there were47,000 sexual offenses and that in the second half of 2015 Muslim asylum seekers caused 1688 cases of sexual assault including 458 cases of rape or sexual coercion... This is what they did in the previous 6 months.

Of course, this report also states that the assaults that sparked a major uproar were not included in this report. I wonder why?

Well, maybe it has to do with the fact that in half a night, just in the city of Cologne in New Years' Eve, asylum seekers committed 446 allegations of sexual assault and three instances of rape. These sexual assaults committed during New Year's Eve can be described as sexual coercion, and in half a night the asylum seekers committed almost as many sexual assaults, as they did in 6 months. Isn't that an increase in crime right there? So how is the government of Germany proclaiming once again that this latest mass crime that occurred in Cologne doesn't show an increase in crime from Muslim asylum seekers?

What's more, the German government apparently thinks Germans are stupid. Because they gave the numbers for "sexual offenses", which were 47,000. But the definition of "sexual offenses" in Germany is different from the definition of "rape and sexual coercion"...

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The current law reads:[18]

Sexual assault by use of force or threats; rape

1) Whosoever coerces another person

1. by force[b/];

2. by threat of imminent danger to life or limb; or

3. by exploiting a situation in which the victim is unprotected and at the mercy of the offender,

to suffer sexual acts by the offender or a third person on their own person or to engage actively in sexual activity with the offender or a third person, shall be liable to imprisonment of not less than one year.

(2) In especially serious cases the penalty shall be imprisonment of not less than two years. An especially serious case typically occurs if

1. the offender performs sexual intercourse with the victim or performs similar sexual acts with the victim, or allows them to be performed on himself by the victim, especially if they degrade the victim or if they entail penetration of the body (rape); or

2. the offence is committed jointly by more than one person.

Subsections (3), (4) and (5) provide additional stipulations on sentencing depending on aggravating or mitigating circumstances.

Section 178 provides that "If the offender through sexual assault or rape (section 177) causes the death of the victim at least by gross negligence the penalty shall be imprisonment for life or not less than ten years."
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en.wikipedia.org...

In 2009, about 7,314 rape cases were reported, a rate of 9 per 100,000 people. 96.1% of the victims were female. In 2011, there were about 7,539 reported cases of rape

If we were to look at how many rapes, and sexual coercion cases have occurred in Germany, as you see above we see completely different numbers.

The original article in this thread claimed that there were 47,000 cases of sexual offences. They showed this number because it is a much larger number, and when they show the cases of rape and sexual coercion by the Muslim asylum seekers this number is obviously much lower. But the German government is trying once again to lie to the German people, and the world.

The ACTUAL number of rapes, and sexual coercion was 7,539 in 2011

Now, if we add the 458 cases of rape and sexual coercion at the end of 2015 by Muslim asylum seekers, and add to it the rapes, and sexual coercion they caused in New Years Eve of 449 cases of sexual coercion and rape = 907 cases of sexual coercion, and rape.

So out of 7,539 rapes and sexual coercion in Germany in 2011, there were 907 cases of sexual coercion and rape done by Muslim asylum seekers in 2015.

So, there are two claims made in this report which are false. First, the claim that the refugee-related crimes in Germany increases less than influx of asylum seekers is obviously wrong. Because in half a night there were 449 cases of sexual coercion, and rape , and in about 6 months in 2015 there were 458 cases of rape and sexual coercion. In half a night the perpetrators committed almost the same amount of sexual coercion and rape as in the past 6 months. This proves the violent trend is increasing with the influx of Muslim immigrants seeking asylum.

Second, the fact that the government of Germany still tries to disinform the public by using a figure of 47,000 sexual offences, when in fact the definition of sexual offenses includes a lot more than rape and sexual coercion.

Oh, and btw, apart from the sexual coercions, and rape, Muslim immigrants seeking asylum also committed 208,344 crimes in total in 2015.

I wonder how many other crimes were committed in New Year's Eve, but not only in Cologne, we also would have to add the other cities in Germany where these crimes occurred.

BTW, the figures I gave above for the sexual coercion, and rape done by Muslim asylum seekers is also not including the cases in other German cities. So the total number of sexual coercion, and rape would be much higher than 907. There were like 4-5 more German cities where these horrendous events happened. In at least one of those other cities the sexual coercion, and rape was almost the same as in Cologne. Will add more info later.

Will someone please tell Hilary and Bernie because they want those people here in the US really bad. I guess they think its fair and liberal. Idiots.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

A study into sexual abuse sponsored by the European Commission and conducted by the Vienna-based Fundamental Rights Agency (FRA) showed Germany above the EU average with 35% having suffered physical and/or sexual violence. 8% of women have experienced sexual violence by partners and 7% have experienced sexual violence by non-partners.[14] The survey revealed that one in three women have been victims of physical or sexual abuse in Europe.[15] A survey conducted in Germany by the German Anti-Discrimination Agency shows that "more than half of all female employees have experienced or witnessed sexual harassment in the workplace. One in five women have been touched against their will by a colleague."

en.wikipedia.org...

35%, chew on that and forget the refugees for a second, it's a redundant talking-point given the total numbers.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

First off, Obligatory Disclaimer: Raping people is bad!


The original article (in German) states that refugee-related crimes did increase less proportional to the growing influx of new arrivals since the beginning of the so-called refugee-crisis. Which is statistically correct.

Now, you're saying in your retort that your numbers prove that:

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
[...]the violent trend is increasing with the influx of Muslim immigrants seeking asylum.

...which is not the point of the article.
The key-words here being: proportional relation.

Also, German criminal law does indeed draw a distinction between sexual assault (Sexuelle Nötigung) and rape (Vergewaltigung) although both are dealt with in § 177 StGB.


German law also still ensures the presumption of innocence and due process.

Just saying.

a reply to: ColCurious

How is it correct when in half a day, those Muslims seeking asylum who participated in the attacks, in New Years Eve committed 449 cases of sexual coercion and rape, compared to 458 cases of rape and sexual coercion in the last half of 2015?

So in half a day the Muslim asylum seekers who participated in these atrocious acts caused almost the same amount of attacks other Muslim immigrants committed in 6 months before the "refugee crises."

I am not saying all Muslim asylum seekers do this, or did this, but the increase was caused by the influx of refugees and the inability of German authorities to deal with such an increase in crime.

It is also true that the German authorities tried to hide the numbers of attacks by including the number of all other sexual offenses, which is disingenuous.

This "leaked report" seems to have been "leaked" on purpose to try to dissuade the German people on their opinion about the sudden increase in these crimes because of the "refugee crises".

originally posted by: ColCurious
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

First off, Obligatory Disclaimer: Raping people is bad!


The original article (in German) states that refugee-related crimes did increase less proportional to the growing influx of new arrivals since the beginning of the so-called refugee-crisis. Which is statistically correct.

Yes it's a way to mislead and make believe believe something that is not true without lying.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

What exactly don't you understand?

There were 208.344 refugee-related crimes registered at the end of December 2015, which equates to a growth of 79 percentage points compared with the previous year.

And there were 1.091.894 asylum-seeking refugees registered at the end of December 2015, which equates to a growth of 440 percentage points compared with the relevant period of the previous year.

79% < 440%.

Thats 6th grade level math.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: ColCurious
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

First off, Obligatory Disclaimer: Raping people is bad!


The original article (in German) states that refugee-related crimes did increase less proportional to the growing influx of new arrivals since the beginning of the so-called refugee-crisis. Which is statistically correct.

Yes it's a way to mislead and make believe believe something that is not true without lying.

What is not true?

I don't just believe anything the BKA says btw... I just said that the retort of ElectricUniverse is false. The claim in the original article is correct though.

a reply to: ColCurious

Refugee related crimes can be way up, while claiming they are down "in proportion".

If you go from 100 refugees to 1000, and crimes go from 100 to 990, then they have increased almost 10 fold while still "down in proportion".

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

Refugee related crimes can be way up, while claiming they are down "in proportion".

If you go from 100 refugees to 1000, and crimes go from 100 to 990, then they have increased almost 10 fold while still "down in proportion".

Correct. The article doesn't claim that refugee-related crimes are down by numbers, nor in proportion.

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
First, the claim that the refugee-related crimes in Germany increases less than influx of asylum seekers is obviously wrong.

This statement by ElectricUniverse is still false, since the claim in the original article is - as I said - statistically correct.

a reply to: ColCurious

I agreed they are correct, whether they are or not. I was simply saying the wording is a way for them to make it appear to the reader crime is not going up when it could be way up. People are stupid, many people reading that will come to the conclusion that more crimes are not occurring, when they are. It's not an accident how they worded it.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: ColCurious

I agreed they are correct, whether they are or not. I was simply saying the wording is a way for them to make it appear to the reader crime is not going up when it could be way up. People are stupid, many people reading that will come to the conclusion that more crimes are not occurring, when they are. It's not an accident how they worded it.

That is how crime-rates are expressed though. Always.
Regardless if the respective group is German, American, British, or if its refugees from the ME or Northern Africa.
Cases, relative to people, expressed in percentage.

This article and the BKA's statement is actually a rebuttal to the claim that ME-refugees (or Muslims, even "brown-people") in principle are more likely to commit crimes than other groups of people.

People are indeed stupid.

a reply to: ColCurious

Yes, the reports are done in this way so they can be honest while misleading people. It's not unique to this case, it's how it's always done.

They aren't lying they just do not want you to know the truth.