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Why Alien Disclosure Will Not Occur

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posted on Feb, 19 2016 @ 08:23 AM
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Call me crazy but I personally think that disclosure will not occur because aliens haven't visited earth. I fully believe alien life exists, I just don't think they've found our tiny little planet yet, and most likely won't.




posted on Feb, 19 2016 @ 08:25 AM
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originally posted by: Medicator
The only candidate running now that would actually tell us is Trump.


No he wouldn't... a president wouldn't be privy to that information, if it were true... That would be on a strictly need to know basis and the president has no need to know and no authority to demand it.



posted on Feb, 19 2016 @ 08:41 AM
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a reply to: 727Sky

The bigger lie the US government has told is about to come out. It's a doozy! Disclosure isn't just for or about E.T.s.



posted on Feb, 19 2016 @ 08:42 AM
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a reply to: AlienView




Fact is there are a lot of nuts in the world - unstable people with mental problems - alien disclosure may not affect some but others would become more disorientated and confused - their minds cannot even handle being Human and the real existence of aliens would throw many over the edge that they are hanging on to.

There's an old saying , although it may sound harsh it's true.
You can't make an omelet without breaking eggs , basically the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few and a story as massive as other intelligent civilizations visiting this planet would be a truth we would need to hear , we would have a right to know regardless of how some may or may not handle it.


edit on 19-2-2016 by gortex because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 19 2016 @ 09:04 AM
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a reply to: DJW001

There is enough classified documents that have numerous pages blackened out related to a lot of well known UFO cases. There are also numerous multiple sightings and credible witnesses that have come forth with allegations that what they've experienced or seen was not from this earth. These witnesses are not just from Joe pubic, but from pilots, police officers, government officials, astronauts, military personnel, government whistle blowers, death bed confessions, and many who were once skeptics. Many of these people put their professional credibility on the line. There's just way too many witnesses who have given statements that have shared similar observations and experiences. If you do enough research on the subject and compare witness testimony and experiences, you will easily come to the conclusion that something not from this earth is being hidden by our government.

There were a lot of scientific theories that were considered nonsense and have now been realized as being fact. So I wouldn't quickly write-off the idea that extremely advanced life don't have the capability of traveling among the stars or warping space to transport themselves from one area of the galaxy to another. To think we know all the limits of science, is really being rather naïve.



posted on Feb, 19 2016 @ 09:33 AM
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a reply to: AlienView

Really, if you think about it, disclosure would bring the world closer together. Whether they're friendly or non-friendly, we would all have somebody to learn from, and improve our life on this planet, or join together and fight a common threat to humanity.

I remember watching Reagan's speech on TV when he said that line. I thought it was weird when he said it than as much as I think back upon it today. He must have believed in the possibility of Aliens visiting this planet if he used it as an example of what would bring this world together.



posted on Feb, 19 2016 @ 09:35 AM
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a reply to: WeRpeons

Yes, people have seen things they could not identify. That doesn't mean they were alien spacecraft. What if the aliens came and said that none of the "contactees" or "channels" had ever been in contact with anything but their own imagination? What do you think would happen?



posted on Feb, 19 2016 @ 09:36 AM
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You never cater to the bottom denominator. You grow everyone up!



posted on Feb, 19 2016 @ 10:41 AM
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a reply to: AlienView
Your views are valid facts AlienView but my take on available facts/evidence seem to suggest we are in a "SG-1" scenario where the Secret Military control everything.



posted on Feb, 19 2016 @ 10:54 AM
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originally posted by: AlienView

originally posted by: MrConspiracy
I wonder why everyone thinks the government can control extra-terrestrial activity. If we want to go really 'out there' then we can say they have a deal with the govt. Maybe then it would make sense.

Other than that, if they wanted their presence known they wouldn't be held back by those who claim false power over this planet.


That is an old conspiracy that says certain elements inside the governments of the so called 'New World Order' have been working with ET for a long time - But all evidence of this is anecdotal and circumstantial.

Do you really want to know the truth? Or are you better off ignorant?

But the motto of ATS is 'Deny Ignorance' so I suppose we'll keep searching for the trurh.


I want to know the truth... of course! But at this point with the lies and cover-ups it's like trying to get out a deep hole without any obvious escape. We won't know any truth until we're allowed to. And it's a shame we're at the mercy of others.

Or of course the aliens come and tell us themselves! ...

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posted on Feb, 19 2016 @ 11:19 AM
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There is a word for this, but heck I can't think of it. Any way, we had exactly the same scenario when the Pacific islander met the first exploring white men. They had no understanding of different coloured people, but more devastating was the size of their ships. Psychologists say that because they had never seen ships this large that some islander didn't "see" the ships. Did it stop the white men from visiting the islands? No. Did it turn any of the islanders suicidal? No.
The different life style and the different germs the white man brought to them were devastating but in the long run the islanders accepted the situation and live today as normaly as possible.
The same scenario would be played out if it was disclosed aliens were here, some people would freak but the majority would accept the situation and get on with their lives as disclosure is just the knowledge they're here and would not alter their life at all.



posted on Feb, 19 2016 @ 11:56 AM
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Yes, people have seen things they could not identify. That doesn't mean they were alien spacecraft.
a reply to: DJW001

We can use that statement for almost anything not even related to alien spacecraft. Imagination? Tell that to Sergeant Jim Penniston who actually touched the craft during the Rendlesham Forest Incident. Add to the fact the entire incident was recorded in real time on audio tape, there was physical indentations in the ground and marks on the trees, an official memo confirming the events written by a high-ranking USAF officer, and a report by local police officers who were called to the scene on two separate occasions. This type of evidence would hold up in a court of law, so how can anyone act like all these military personnel were making this up, or it just so happened it was all in their minds? If there was a murder investigation nobody would be questioning this kind of evidence.

There are more cases that have credible multiple witnesses and have presented both physical, chemical and radiation evidence.



What if the aliens came and said that none of the "contactees" or "channels" had ever been in contact with anything but their own imagination? What do you think would happen?


If they came and told these people it was all in their imagination, their physical presence alone would give proof of their existence, wouldn't it.
If Extraterrestrials projected these images into the public's imagination, it would still prove these witnesses and channelers still made an unearthly contact.

What do you think would happen if an Extraterrestrial life made their presence known to the entire world? The look on skeptic faces would be priceless.



posted on Feb, 19 2016 @ 12:18 PM
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a reply to: WeRpeons


Our faces would light up with joy because we finally had the solid evidence we need. What would be the look on the faces of the people who believe they are in contact with Pleiadeans when the aliens explain to them, as I have done, that the stars in the Pleiades star nursery are too young for life to have evolved there?
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posted on Feb, 19 2016 @ 08:14 PM
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a reply to: AlienView

Check out ATS thread here:
E.T.s. Turn out the lights. They may not be coming...

Will never happen. Doesnt have to. We're too stupid and havent any clue even what or who to look for...
edit on 19-2-2016 by mysterioustranger because: splchkr



posted on Feb, 20 2016 @ 05:16 AM
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originally posted by: mysterioustranger
a reply to: AlienView

Check out ATS thread here:
E.T.s. Turn out the lights. They may not be coming...

Will never happen. Doesnt have to. We're too stupid and havent any clue even what or who to look for...


The link posted above doens't work - this one should:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Quoting from your post:



Astrophysicist Neil DeGrasse Tyson has suggested that we may already be in a post alien contact era.

While SETI focuses its efforts on finding evidence of extraterrestrial intelligence out in space, there are some who believe that aliens may have already been visiting us for some time.

In a recent interview with MSNBC, astrophysicist and Cosmos presenter Neil DeGrasse Tyson has put forward a third possibility, one that most of us aren't going to like. The concept centers around the fact that it is only by our own definition that we have determined what constitutes "intelligent" life in the universe.

"My great fear is that we've in fact been visited by intelligent aliens, but they chose not to make contact, on the conclusion that there's no sign of intelligent life on Earth," he said.

It has long been speculated that our understanding of the universe may be severely limited by our perceptual capabilities. Perhaps to a sufficiently intelligent alien species a human being appears no more intelligent than an insect - a primitive life form barely capable of comprehension.

"The audacity of us to even claim we can define intelligence," said Tyson."


Consider this - If thes aliens are as advanced as imagined - Contact would be impossible - Man would not trust them and even if they appeared benevolent..........

I wrote a blog post on this:


THE PHILOSOPHY OF ALIENS
Assuming you believe in the existence of other beings in the cosmos [aliens], and believe they have been covertly interacting with humans for quite some time now [maybe a long, long time] you might wonder why will they not make themselves known overtly - announce their presence to the world? I want you to consider the consequences of this action. Do humans trust each other on a global scale? NO, they do not and their bloody history of war and destruction is a matter of record. Now consider what would happen if one day an alien representative appears at the UN and says welcome. Now even if this alien gave a long speech on how they mean us no harm and are here to benefit Man, do you think that most people will believe it? - Probably not, and many problems will develop; Whereas many scientists and intellectuals will welcome their new alien friends, a good part of the population will not - paranoia is already rampant on the planet Earth - think what the appearance of a highly advanced superior race will cause. The problem is not currently Surmountable and the aliens for now will continue to observe, accumulate data, and occasionally may make isolated contact with certain select individuals. Yes, in this case of humans of the Planet Earth, the non-interference rule as depicted in the sci-fi epic Star Trek must be enforced. If Man were to evolve to a higher state showing signs of an advancing civilization, Aliens might then change their view of humanity and agree that direct contact is warranted.
-AlienView

universalspacealienpeoplesassociation.blogspot.com...



posted on Feb, 20 2016 @ 05:43 AM
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Disclosure has already happened.

Maybe not in the US. Look at other countries like Mexico and others.

Mexican DoD Acknowledges
UFOs In Mexico


Have not gone through all the links but found this:
List of countries that disclosed Alien/UFO documents

Related ATS post: List of Countries who have Disclosed/are Disclosing UFO Files

related links

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posted on Feb, 20 2016 @ 03:46 PM
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originally posted by: nOraKat
Disclosure has already happened.

Maybe not in the US. Look at other countries like Mexico and others.

Mexican DoD Acknowledges
UFOs In Mexico


Have not gone through all the links but found this:
List of countries that disclosed Alien/UFO documents

Related ATS post: List of Countries who have Disclosed/are Disclosing UFO Files

related links


Yes and no - Yes in that at least these countries have openly admitted to the existence ot UFOs and the US still seems to deny that they exist claiming they are just unexplained visual events and not wanting to call them exactly what they are UFOs.

No in that the conspiracy belief that many have is that the governments, including and especially the US, have factual knowledge of probable alien contact of the third kind and are keeping this from the public. Do any of those government links
you listed actually claim that a government has admitted to acutal and provable alien contact

If so tell us which links to watch.



posted on Feb, 21 2016 @ 05:35 AM
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Man, there ain't no aliens among us unless you mean "hillary" lol.



posted on Feb, 21 2016 @ 06:30 AM
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There won't be 'disclosure' because there is nothing 'non-terrestrial' or 'extra-terrestrial' to disclose. There are several 'tells' that ET is not present in our solar system.

Two things that people have to realize is:

1. ET would not visit here 'in person' full-size. They're use nano-technology, or small exploratory craft, just like we do on Mars.

2. They would not 'HIDE'. That's a necessary ingredient in all the sci-fi works because it adds suspense. Did we hide on Mars? Nope. Have we cloaked any of our craft? Nope. It adds unnecessary expense to exploration.

Is there a very, very small chance that there is a humanoid-like non-terrestrial presence that is sentient and that can get off planet and that can spend the money, and has the resources (surface metals and elements) to voyage outside of their low orbit and FIND us and COME here (risking contamination)? Perhaps. But now you have to assume it can time synch with us. This is VERY difficult, to be at the right point in all of the above AND meet here just when we are intelligent enough to detect them.

IF there was any alien presence in the Solar System we'd have SEEN them on the Moon, on Mars, on Europa. They would not be hiding. There is no obvious presence there.

Finally, it would be utter folly to go about 'voyaging' if you hadn't duplicated your civilization on planets near you (but far enough away to avoid the death of their sun, and GRBs). If there are non-terrestrials with space-faring ability believe me they are way too busy duplicating to avoid extinction events to go out there in a vast galaxy looking for us.

Once aliens evolve (if there are any) to the point where they become 5th dimensional beings, and can "look down" as we do to a comic book page and SEE all the sentient civilizations, they'll note that they've ALL died out (or are still in the single-cell organism stage) or can't get off planet and they will have NO INTEREST in them, just like we don't have the interest to 'visit' a comic book page with two-dimensional pictures.

HTH

GRBs = gamma ray bursts.

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posted on Feb, 21 2016 @ 07:18 AM
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originally posted by: Maverick7
There won't be 'disclosure' because there is nothing 'non-terrestrial' or 'extra-terrestrial' to disclose. There are several 'tells' that ET is not present in our solar system.

Two things that people have to realize is:

1. ET would not visit here 'in person' full-size. They're use nano-technology, or small exploratory craft, just like we do on Mars.

2. They would not 'HIDE'. That's a necessary ingredient in all the sci-fi works because it adds suspense. Did we hide on Mars? Nope. Have we cloaked any of our craft? Nope. It adds unnecessary expense to exploration.

Is there a very, very small chance that there is a humanoid-like non-terrestrial presence that is sentient and that can get off planet and that can spend the money, and has the resources (surface metals and elements) to voyage outside of their low orbit and FIND us and COME here (risking contamination)? Perhaps. But now you have to assume it can time synch with us. This is VERY difficult, to be at the right point in all of the above AND meet here just when we are intelligent enough to detect them.

IF there was any alien presence in the Solar System we'd have SEEN them on the Moon, on Mars, on Europa. They would not be hiding. There is no obvious presence there.

Finally, it would be utter folly to go about 'voyaging' if you hadn't duplicated your civilization on planets near you (but far enough away to avoid the death of their sun, and GRBs). If there are non-terrestrials with space-faring ability believe me they are way too busy duplicating to avoid extinction events to go out there in a vast galaxy looking for us.

Once aliens evolve (if there are any) to the point where they become 5th dimensional beings, and can "look down" as we do to a comic book page and SEE all the sentient civilizations, they'll note that they've ALL died out (or are still in the single-cell organism stage) or can't get off planet and they will have NO INTEREST in them, just like we don't have the interest to 'visit' a comic book page with two-dimensional pictures.

HTH

GRBs = gamma ray bursts.



I have to say, you should run for the president of the USA. You, dude have common sense.




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